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Q&A Edit

Alright then. :3 Dragon Skål! 21:02, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Talk Pages Edit

I know this seems pretty pointless but I like reading through talk pages, would it be within the realm of possiblity to go through some of the messier ones like Ulysses' and remove a lot of the pre-release speculation? Atleast the speculations that were wrong lol. Just to make them a little shorter. --Xaedra 02:55, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for the help :)--Xaedra 03:31, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Poster in Picture Edit

Is that a Misfits poster behind you? The Misfits kick ass. Hedimius Herilius 04:23, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ahh, it's still bad ass, though. Hedimius Herilius 04:33, February 6, 2012 (UTC)


Thanks, Ry. I suppose Team Awesome officially exists, effective immediately. Welcome to the club (really, you should be welcoming me, but whatever) :D Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 04:57, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe because your fucking admin right there just banned me for doing the same thing he does. How smart

I had to change accounts, Garoux banned the other

Ban Hammer Edit

That's how I earned my running shoes from Yessie. ;D Dragon Skål! 14:00, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Baralokai Edit

so that Bara guy was Ez nem, i did not see that comeing lol.AaaaaTheNemesisx 14:01, February 6, 2012 (UTC)


I reverted your Anne edit. Race is taken right from the GECK. Anne is Asian. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:07, February 6, 2012 (UTC)


I don't care too much for a complete overhaul. We could adress a few issues though, like the map marker naming and derived stats. Come to think of it, this would be a nice subject for admins only. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:04, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Something like that. Some months ago I set up a forum thread about location pages to be capitalized or not. Would be nice to find that one back for reference. I suggest you set up a forum thread then for the issues you think require attention. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:24, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Everything OK there? You're lagging in and out at an impressive rate. Agent c 00:50, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

No way! Edit

You have an Uncle Pete also? O: Dragon Skål! 02:45, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Recent blockEdit

I changed the block you just made down to one week. Generally speaking, anons shouldn't be blocked for more than two weeks since they can easily have a rotating IP meaning that someone else could potentially be punished for doing nothing. --Kastera (talk) 04:22, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Condensing Edits Edit

Yeah, sorry didn't think of that but it probably fills up recent activity. Lol I'll just start writing things down before editting that way I can remember to make all my edits in one fell swoop. --Xaedra 04:58, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Templates seminarEdit

Yesterday I (and I think everyone here) received an invitation for a seminar about templates, next Friday. We have a forum thread about that now, so I know there is interest. I hope you have signed up for it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:16, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Just a note: Edit

Just letting you know that I went ahead and added a poll to the Strategic Nuclear Moose. It's one that I will always have on there though since it is asking what everyone's favorite part of SNM is, so feel free to let me know if you come up with any ideas and I'll implement them. (Or, you can always pass if you don't have the time or will to do so.) If this is the case, just let me know and I'll still owe you if you have a good idea in the future. Dragon Skål! 19:40, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

You wereEdit

Laggy McLagfaic again, so back doored you. Sort it out boy :p NextTattoo"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 15:23, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Your internet was shredding chat up, so I had to ban you. Feel free to unban yourself though :) κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 21:44, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Limmie Edit

Isn't it odd that you have "approved" of her request? From what I know, the bc should be the one doing that. I may not be correct though. -ΣΔLet's talk! 20:11, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then. -ΣΔLet's talk! 23:34, February 9, 2012 (UTC)


Similar thing happened for Nem and I yesterday. At one point, the stars were replaced with question marks. They're fixed now, though. I made a forum about it. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 23:19, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Team AwesomeEdit

TeamAwesomeThis user is Awesome


What do you think? If we're awesome, we need some way to prove it. Also, good luck with that girl thing. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 04:02, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

This is a wonderful, enchanting, picture right here. -ΣΔLet's talk! 04:14, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Smooth moves. Good luck. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 04:46, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Capitalisation Edit

Good on you for basically reviving that project. I know it was far from being finished. -ΣΔLet's talk! 19:09, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm having trouble with capping with the derived statistics. Could you cap all stats on this page? MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 19:13, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's not that they are locked, but it takes time to rename other pages. Reason is that it is anti-spamming. Yeah... Anyway, it seems you have done it. WHat troubles me is before the project I edited Fallout/Fallout 2 characters' derived stats. Needles to say, those links need to be changed. MysteryStranger: Trust in the power of Infinity! 19:18, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Karma Capitalisation Edit

Hey TB, I was looking on the capitalisation project page and it said that Karma is capitalised. Does this mean that both 'karma' and the good, evil or neutral is capitalised? The Australian Kiwi 22:36, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Quests Edit

Hey Mr.Bears I have a quick question, or I want to hear your opinion on this. So do you think side quests should be under Category:Fallout: New Vegas quests, as well as the category for side quests or should it just be side quests? ToCxHawK 04:15, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Actually scratch that. I'll just remove the Category for quests seeing as only it's on a few pages. ToCxHawK 04:24, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm back again, and well I think I do want your opinion again. Kinda confused myself. :P ToCxHawK 05:49, February 12, 2012 (UTC)


That's ok. Happens to me too sometimes. Then I find them later on in the wanted pages. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:54, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Anon Edit

There's certain degrees as to which mistakes are worth turning the other cheek and which ones deserve punishing. If he had just made the mistake once or maybe even twice, I wouldn't have cared much. But the fact that he systematically went through multiple pages with the same mistakes warrants a good reason for a slap on the wrist (Which I consider 3 days to be) for wasting my time. Dragon Skål! 05:32, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

A good example would be if you were hired to paint in someone's house. Make a mistake by painting something you shouldn't have, (light switch, door, etc.) it's not such a big deal. However, you paint the whole damn house the wrong colour, you can expect a big fuss to be made over it. Dragon Skål! 05:36, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mean ol' Admin. Edit

I did explain what he did wrong and how he should look at our rules and guidelines. And yes... wasting editor's time is an offense I don't take lightly. We all have better things to do than cleaning up some other person's mess. Dragon Skål! 05:39, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

The way I see it is that he came here with good intentions, of course. However, it was his responsibility to find himself familiar with how things work here first before ever making his first edit. Not sure why you are finding yourself so agitated over this. He made a repetitive mistake and now he has to deal with a measly 3-day ban. It's not like I've banished him with the community shunning him from a distance. Dragon Skål! 05:42, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'm willing to bump it down to a 1-day ban since it was so minor a fluke. My issue is knowing that sometimes you have to make an example out of someone or create such an earth-shattering event in their lives that they finally get the idea that what they're doing is wrong and that they need to change or improve their current style of working and thinking. Human nature is hard to crack and you learn to spot the behaviours and beliefs that are problematic. Our Anon is a sterling example. He saw that strategy listed on an achievement page and he took that as incentive to go through every other similar page to add the same information he found. Only a certain train of thought from a certain type of person would do such a thing and never once think that maybe he should ask first or if the information he saw might have been wrong. I rectified the problem, pointed it out to him, and then showed him that initiative will be needed to not make the same mistakes again. If I would have just reverted his edits? He would have never learned. He might still not have learned, but I've found my way is better than standing idly and leaving them in ignorance of what they did wrong. Dragon Skål! 05:54, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Duly noted. Just so you know, by the way... I couldn't care less about my edit count. Even the achievement system we have in place I consider more detrimental than anything. (Although I do understand it's just a bit of fun) Seems we ban too many people for abusing that system though. Dragon Skål! 06:02, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Very true. What bothers me is I see Admins doing it plenty as well. Even Jspoel was accused of it earlier today. (Er... technically yesterday now.) Dragon Skål! 06:06, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

I could have been your daddy... Edit

On a lighter note... what do you think about a Karaoke night once a week at the Strategic Nuclear Moose? :D Agent c posted one if you want to check it out. :3 Dragon Skål! 06:17, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

I think Cappy J. has just about earned the right to bend the rules every now and again anyways. Especially so since he single handedly kept this wiki alive after the split until we finally got back on our feet. (In my personal opinion.) Haha! You definitely should! I haven't implemented the idea yet, but if I get enough people interested I will go ahead and have it in SNM by this Sunday. Dragon Skål! 06:21, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your support! Edit

Thanks a lot for supporting me in the moderatorship Ryan, and even though I didn't need it it was really nice of you to offer your endorsement. I know you've been feeling disheartened lately, but you shouldn't give up, I for one respect your style of handling things, and think it's a great (and needed) counterpoint to some of the team. Toodles! <3 Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 20:29, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Chatmod Survey Edit

Hi Ry,

Was wondering if you could take a look at this and if you could pop in the hours when you're kinda regular in chat. I'm doing a sort of survey in light of DB's mod application getting a bit of resistance due to the high number of mods - see if and when we need folks, that sort of thing. Agent c 01:42, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Bohemian RhapsodyEdit


Man, you are a motherfucking legend! That karaoke was some hilarious stuff right there (in a good way). Especially when you apologised for sounding too awesome. But seriously man, that was great. Team Awesome just got a little bit more awesome.

Also, we have the same electric guitar. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 05:45, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

"This is my belt buckle. It says fuck."
That's going on my userpage. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 05:49, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't agree more with literally everything Rob said, aside from the guitar part, I don't have one ;) Damn, that's made my day and cheered me up to no end XD. Cool accent too κηδεμόνας [~μιλώ~] 22:01, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

hey could you or one of the other administrators unblock me from the chat

August Cyrx Edit

He put the speculation back after being warned by Great Mara. Could you be so kind and deal with him? The Australian Kiwi 20:40, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for dealing with him. Crickey he was a pain! I'll keep an eye on the pages in the days after his ban has been lifted as well. The Australian Kiwi 20:45, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

I added a comment to August Cyrx' page about his ban. Somehow, I don't think he really meant bad and gave a good argument in the talkpage. I was thinking about reducing the ban to 1 day. Think that's enough in this case. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:00, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Keller Family Edit

Looking through the tape transcripts, I can't find an article for Paul. Or is that supposed to be the father? And after looking around the bunker I can't find anything linking the bodies to the family. UserGreatMaraMessage 20:58, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, found a page for Paul. But I didn't find anything stating that he was her boyfriend? UserGreatMaraMessage 21:02, February 18, 2012 (UTC)


Thanks, TwoBears! I guess I kinda earned it. I have spent a crazy amount of hours here and took care of the wiki when it was vulnerable. And also practically we could use another bc. Anyway, good to have your support! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:02, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Dean's stashes Edit

It's unnecessary because being directly ahead of a certain set of stairs is not a true landmark that you can relate to and isn't actually near the stash itself. They are located behind a column after you pass a different set of stairs right next to a skeleton with a spear next to it. Those landmarks are necessary. Dragon Skål! 05:32, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'll give the actual Villa page a look and see if the stash and how to get to it is mentioned there. If not, then I'll move the information I removed from the stash page to that page's layout section instead. Dragon Skål! 05:39, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sock Puppet Edit

Good catch! How could you tell? Dragon Skål! 06:35, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, you get the credit for banning him then! I remember that idiot though. Only banned him for 2 hours so I'm not sure why he was thought it'd be smart to try and circumvent it. Dragon Skål! 06:38, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Uncalled for?Edit

What is uncalled for is going back a month later and changing a comment from harsh to saying "Shame that a previous Admin can have such an unprofessional and spiteful view on things". There was no reason other than just trolling around looking for something to write. Honestly can you think of a good reason as to why someone would wait over a month and go back and change a comment. As for contacting him, I have been unable to reach him on chat nor get a solid answer for the questions I have posed. Also just a note, when we ban anons, it is pointless to leave a note on the talk page. The likelihood that the same person will use the same anon ip is unlikely. It's just general practice. As for the comment, that is how I see it and I believe I am justified in reverting that.--Kingclyde 04:28, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

lag Ban Edit

Had to backdoor ban you for lag in chat... But you know what to do to get rid of it. Agent c 19:58, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Message to all friends!Edit

I'm sure you know that I'm on military deployment, and if not, now you do. Anyways, onto the thing I came here to say. This is easily the most dangerous thing I've ever had to do, and I just wanted to say that if I get labelled KIA/MIA, I just want you to try and forget about me. It sounds stupid, I know, but it's for the better.

CJIRU Nunquam Nonparati CJIRU 01:58, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey man i got blocked off the chat, i got a 3g modem that uses paycard i didn't know it would do that so if you can unban that, next time i just leave when i leave if it's aiight 01:59, March 1, 2012 (UTC) Rayzdog

I unbanned him Ryan :) -ΣΔLet's talk! 02:03, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Troll Edit

Besides making a ton of bad edits and vandalism, this guy made this troll page. Please delete it. -ΣΔLet's talk! 02:47, March 1, 2012 (UTC)


Found this, thought you might like it. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 05:25, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Liberty Prime Edit

It said on your page you were/are in charge of quotes? I left some of my favorite quotes on the liberty prime page under Quotes, but they dissapeared. Do the Quotes have to contain some form of relevance to be kept? I have audio recordings of all of them, granted theres gunfire in the background and the occational "ouch" but please clarify for me why they werent kept. DeltaLegio 18:32, March 1, 2012 (UTC) DeltaLegio

Sorry about that, can't help it. Don't see any Keanu Reeves movies than anymore I guess. :) Will be tough, they are goood (best one The Matrix of course, but Speed is good also). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:41, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
Sure, let me know. I'll be waiting with curiousity! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:52, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
Hahaa, that's funny! Could be true, his/my career has gone a bit downhill and now I'm/he's spending time here, getting a high profile with the avatar, trying that way to reboost his/my career again! But I'm not sure it has done my/his acting abilities any good, spending all that time here. Don't think so ;) I'll leave you all guessing if I'm really "The One" or not... Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:17, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Talk pages Edit

Well, that is true. But we haven't exactly reached a point of general agreement yet in the community. But if things stay in the status quo, then we can continue doing it the way you wrote out. -ΣΔLet's talk! 00:44, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

RE: CommunismEdit

Thanks ;) Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 17:36, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Present Edit

It's okay. :) I keep trying to add yours back in, but every time I try to copy yours, it end up making a hybrid between your present and mine. xD Dragon Skål! 21:54, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, Mystery had the same problem as I was having. Except he actually added in the Frankenstein present. lol Dragon Skål! 21:57, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Banhammer Edit

Thanks, I promise to only use it on those deserving ;D Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 21:59, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Nemerian Edit

If you would like, you would be in the right to ban him now. The fact is, he's made it obvious he's abusing the achievement system (Look at Jpsoel's conversation with him) and he's just plain and simply been making a lot of questionable edits. Dragon Skål! 00:06, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

The strange things is, it's not needed at all. The so many days in a row is already long gone. He missed the 25th of February. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:09, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Your choice on what you think is best! Dragon Skål! 00:11, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
I'm honestly at a loss to see how any of his edits are "useless". From what I can tell, he is fixing sentence structure as he always has. And I see no evidence of achievement boosting. IF you see some please point it out to me.--Kingclyde 00:18, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
This guy User:Falloutexpert is a good example of achievement boosting.--Kingclyde 00:20, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Mm, personally I wouldn't have banned him yet and asked him why first. He's got a lot of credit with me. He's done a lot for the wiki when the achievements started, even applied for admin around May last year. Seems to have lost his way a bit. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:46, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
I still think a ban is out of the question. He is not achievement boosting, it seems that you may not like his editing style. That is no reason to ban him.--Kingclyde 02:36, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I am unbanning him, he has not done anything to qualify for an achievement boosting block. His editing style may be clashing but that is it.--Kingclyde 02:40, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Riddle me this: What achievement is he actually trying for by making 1 or 2 edits a day? Have you even reviewed the example I left you above? Achievement boosting is doing something similar to what I'm going to put below.

And now I have the badge for 5 five Fallout 3 edits. That is achievement boosting. Not these occur all in one to three days but note the edit style. Remove, click publish. Then click edit and add what I just removed. Publish and repeat. Just because someone is making "annoying or bs edits" that is no grounds for blocking anyone.--Kingclyde 05:31, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

The achievement boosting ban is for something like I posted. The user attempted to get more than one badge/achievement in a day or two. The badge he was apparently going for was the 30/60/90 badge, not multiple badges. In this situation, use the inserting gibberish reason. Also when leaving explanations for blocks, please leave stuff like "many, pointless edits" and "Don't do this again. Is an achievement worth that much? " out as they look unprofessional. Just make the reason for blocking clear and concise. What I usually leave is something along the lines of "You have been blocked for 3 days for (fill in the blank). Please use this time to review our policies." The edits he was making would constitute a ban for "Inserting nonsense or gibberish", not achievement boosting. Here soon, J and myself will be sending out review notes for admin and mod conduct. Which bans are used for what, how to interact and deal with troublesome users and how to resolve certain issues. I'm not picking on you in particular, we just need to get the new admins up to speed on the ins and outs of being an admin or mod. Any questions just let me know.--Kingclyde 05:58, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lagban Edit

Had to backdoor lag ban you, but you know how to fix it when you're ready. Agent c 01:05, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

i apoligize i was rude wont happen again of course but ill be back in ten days just not for chat i didnt like it very much its not in my nature to getthat way tho but i was serious about HH sorry i luv OWB way more so sorry if i was offencive--Oldworldblues42 05:06, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I love fallout OWB its the best thing ever--Oldworldblues42 05:11, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, what's up? Kinda new here. Been visiting but just did my first edit about Aba Dabba Honeymoon mentioning on the XBox 360 if you kill Don's wife silently and unnoticed you can still deliver the Great Khan package to Don. Was wondering why you deleted it? I posted it because I didn't see it anywhere else and had edited the page about 5 mins after handing the package to Don whose wife I had killed awhile ago, so I know it's true, at least with all DLC installed. Did I break a rule of some sort? Thanks. --StankyLefthand 08:42, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

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