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Tocinoman

aka Nick

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14,081 Edits since joining this wiki
December 26, 2011
  • I live in USA
  • I was born on December 28
  • My occupation is Midshipman Candidate, Naval Academy Preparatory School
  • I am Spartacus
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I AM OUT OF OFFICE UNTIL AROUND AUGUST 13TH FOR NAPS INDOCTRINATION. PLEASE DO NOT MOVE ME TO THE INACTIVE LIST. I WILL RETURN WHEN INDOC IS OVER.


For your listening pleasure, Gold on the Ceiling by the Black Keys


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Talkpages Edit

Why is it necessary to change "Raider" to "Raider (Fallout 3)" in some article talkpages? It's not creating any bad links. 69.l25 (talk) 23:26, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I understand. 69.l25 (talk) 23:29, January 5, 2014 (UTC)

Renaming filesEdit

You don't have to rename user page files anymore, by adding user in front of it. Just leave it as they are. You missed a discussion a year ago or so about it where we loosened the rules. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 13:35, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Can you fix your right banner? Your messages go through it and are hard to read. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 13:36, January 11, 2014 (UTC)
Appears we have an admin and bc contradicting each other. Limmie removed it from policy (after we discussed in my recollection), Gunny probably forgot a few months later on. Still, it's removed from policy, so you don't have to rename them. I also dislike those image redirects. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:47, January 13, 2014 (UTC)
Not to worry. You misinterpreted my response somewhat. It was more of funny thing to find out, that Gunny has missed that policy change. But from now on you can leave the image names as they are. If they're really bad (all numbers), you could change it, but then you should make it a move, not a redirect. Afterward change the name of the image on the page where it's been put on. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:18, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Forum voteEdit

There has been a restarting of the poll due to a change in the question. Please re-cast your vote here. I apologise for the inconvenience. --Skire (talk) (via the courier) 02:00, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

New sig Edit

That's actually not a problem after the first time you leave someone a message. :) The only time it says you created a new image on their page again is if they should archive it. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:24, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Chat. Edit

Hey Toci, would you mind popping into chat for a few? Thanks mate! RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Patroller..." Wiki 04:44, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Talk page erasure?Edit

I have a request to make. A couple of years ago I posted my email on user Raymorn's talk page, and now I want it removed, but I can't edit the page myself. Could you please remove it from his page? --Protostealth (talk) 05:50, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Featured articles Edit

You don't know how ecstatic I was to read your message XD I've been waiting for more assistance on the project, and an editor as experienced as your stepping up is simply fantastic. Please take a look at this, and you can help me add in articles. I'm almost halfway done, and by the end, we'll have a completely new rotation. This list aims to have more article variety and overall notability in article subjects. Thanks! --Skire (talk) 21:10, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, that was stupid. I've fixed it. --Skire (talk) 21:12, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
The ones listed are the ones I've chosen to go into the rotation. At the beginning of each category our allotted number of articles for that category is displayed. DLCs for both games are done, but there are plenty of other categories that need new articles. If you believe an article is appropriate to fit into the rotation, just go ahead and add 'em to the list. When we're done, we'll actually add them into the rotation. I'm excited! =P --Skire (talk) 21:25, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hey there. Just wondering, why was Agility the only change here? Shouldn't the other primary stats be changed to their full title as well? --Skire (talk) 23:51, January 18, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, that was what I suspected. I usually handle these using AWB now, so I can offer a hand if you want. --Skire (talk) 23:54, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Very true. A combination of using AWB for various replacements and then manually checking them over is best. --Skire (talk) 23:58, January 18, 2014 (UTC)
Lol. I do each redirect separately, then check over a few. If the replacement is specific enough, they'll always make sense. For example, since I have them display as "IN", so it doesn't modify the text displayed, there's no need to check for context. --Skire (talk) 00:08, January 19, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, AWB is very fast, but you're pretty fast too I can see =P Together we can get this done! (Or closer to done!) --Skire (talk) 00:28, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Are you still adding articles to the list? Once the list is complete, we can brush 'em up to standards and send them into the rotation. Everything will be new! --Skire (talk) 03:12, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Understood. Hopefully we can finish this up soon. Chris is also joining us (as you know), so we'll have even more manpower. I've been wanting to get this done for awhile... --Skire (talk) 01:51, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

ForumEdit

There is a discussion forum in the motion of no confidence; can you comment there and don't go ganging up against me in chat? 69.l25 (talk) 18:25, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

If it's going to be counterproductive, then why say it anywhere? Anyway, I'm spamming everyone about something, and I thought I'd be awkward to just leave that message right after what I said above, but, nonetheless, I'd still like your imput. Here's the spam:

Hello bureaucrat, admin, moderator, chat mod, or patroller!

Can you please take a look at this forum and voice any opinion you may have.

Thank you
69.l25 (talk) 00:21, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

The "from what I've been told" part pertains to his actions as a bureaucrat when he was active a few years ago and how he stepped up after the split; I wasn't here when that stuff was happening and have to go off of what I've heard. I wasn't basing any criticisms on what people told me. Just wanted to clarify. I look forward to hearing from you in the forum. 69.l25 (talk) 00:38, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
The forum has been put on hold, and no discussion will be carried out until some of he current forums quiet down and we hear the bureaucrats' proposal. I've removed your comment for now, but please feel free to add it back in when the discussion opens again. 69.l25 (talk) 00:58, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Papa Khan Edit

The proof can be found in "vms45_papakhankarldisgrace_0015bab8_1" through "vms45_papakhankarldisgrace_0015bab8_3" in FalloutNV.esm --> sound --> voice --> maleuniquepapakhan. It can also be replicated via acquiring the slave ledger and giving it to Papa Khan first before Regis. He will reject your evidence. 24.7.226.40 22:26, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

RedirectsEdit

I see you're replacing a lot of redirects with a direct link. You can consider doing it with your bot, you know that, right? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:36, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

PresentEdit

FO3 Nuka-Cola Quantum
You have been given a Nuka Cola Quantum.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
For you work on being a second Jspoel. Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 00:10, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Abot botsEdit

I wrote [[User_blog:The_Gunny/Bot_Talk_-_To_flag_or_not_to_flag%3F_That_is_the_question.|a little guidance]] about use of bot software and bot accounts. Please give it a read and comment if needed. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 01:23, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Featured articles (again!)Edit

Yo Nick, how's everything? If you're alright with it, I'd like to push ahead with the featured articles and look at completing the new rotation within a week or two. The Vault has already updated theirs and my efforts have been stagnating in the recent months. With you and Chris I'm hoping we can keep the momentum going and bringing it to a close soon... --Skire (talk) 03:58, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Wide screenEdit

Yes, I have a wide screen. 1920*1080. That'll probably the cause then. Congratulations on beating me in edit count. For the first time in 3 years I'm ranked number 2... Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:53, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Now you know. But I'm right there on your tail! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:15, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

QuestionEdit

Do you have a Skype or something? It should make it easier to communicate and collaborate on things. --Skire (talk) 02:29, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Alright, I sent you a contact request. --Skire (talk) 02:59, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

TalkpagesEdit

You must have been absent for the policy change, but any entry can be removed, regardless of what year it was posted. The Smiling Jack post removals were all justified. You need to be more specific if you really feel one was unjustly removed. And I didn't "erase it and pretend it didn't happen"; I added the "talkpage" template to the top of the page. 69.l25 (talk) 04:25, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

I see what you're saying about killing talkpage discussions; I only hope we can find a way to move some of these discussions to forums or blogs where they'd be better off. Can you talk a look at the message I just left at A Followers Talkpage? If you replace "Bugs" with "behind the scenes references," you can get some insight into what I removed the posts you specified. 69.l25 (talk) 05:03, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
Well thanks for the put-down on Gunny's talkpage. I'm glad to know I dig through the GECK for hours, and it gets overshadowed by a talkpage removal that happened in five minutes. So, I remind you of a disrespectful you? I haven't done anything disrespectful. The talkpage problem has been fixed, and I doubt any user will be offended that their talkpage post from four years ago was removed for three minutes. 69.l25 (talk) 05:17, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Concerning my vote Edit

Your comments will be taken into consideration, as well as any others that I've seen, either positive or negative, when we discuss the final disposition of his admin request in the next few days. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 05:20, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Your giftEdit

D'awww thanks, glad to be your 10,000th edit. I'll cherish this for the rest of my life or until somebody decides to try to take it from me ;) - Chris 4 Star Dragon Ball Edit 06:06, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Removing categoriesEdit

Can you wait removing categories? the Special:GameGuidesContent uses main categories like Category:Fallout: New Vegas characters and you just emptied it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:02, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

I've thought about it, but I think we should leave all the characters also in the main category. With the new format, you first have to browse through the categories on your mobile to find the one you think your character is in. If we keep the New Vegas characters category with al pages, you can skip that step and immediately type the character you search, with a result. If you try that now for New Vegas, you won't get any result and will wonder why. The new format has its advantages too, because you can see all categories at the top, but I think it doesn't weigh against the ease and fastness of finding a page. You can ask the other bcs, but I'm not comfortable with it myself. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:58, January 28, 2014 (UTC)
You can leave things as they are for now. I'll get back to you on this. Don't start removing the Fallout 3 character category from pages just yet, ok? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:58, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

A (late) Holiday GiftEdit

Esther
You have been given the Esther, for the big tasks.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year, I know i may be a bit late, but had exams then and decided to delay my wishes a bit. If it's too late for you, then consider it a Chinese new year ;) Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 10:06, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Minor editsEdit

Hey Toci, just a heads up for you to remember to tag your edits on the categories and so forth as minor so they don't clutter up the recent edits.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:37, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

DialoguesEdit

I have a proposition for you. Can you help out with extracting the Fallout: New Vegas dialogue files from the GECK? It's not that hard, you can find the dialogue of each character in their GECK stats, select it, sort it a bit in Excel or OpenOffice and almost plain copy it to a wiki page. Theodorico (has a Russian name now) uses his bot to convert it to a table like you see here. Looks great, doesn't it and we add it to the character's infobox and can use it for reference. I can give you the details if you're interested. We're talking a few thousand entries so I can use all the help I can get. Let me know, ok? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:43, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Referencing policyEdit

Hi. We're looking for feedback on this and hopefully we can reach consensus quickly. Agent c (talk) (via the courier) 01:14, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

.45 Auto Edit

Thank you, sir, for getting back to me. I just seen it and went to one of the most senior editors on this page. I had no clue what to do. @WalkingTall217

Copyright GrammarEdit

I just looked over the Jefferson Davis page you created and noticed the {{Copyright Wikipedia}} template has the page's name in quotations with a period falling outside of the quotations. Is the template unique to this wiki (i.e. can we edit it to fix the mistake), or is there nothing we can do? 69.l25 (talk) 19:07, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Problem's fixed so we're all good. Thanks for the link! 69.l25 (talk) 19:19, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Chrome and empty table cells Edit

Yeah. That's a known issue. It has to do with a recent change in Chrome and the way it renders empty table cells. The rows not rendering have no actual data in the cells, just divs with some styling. Wikia can't do anything, since it's a Chrome issue, and as far as I understand, Google knows about the problem. Don't know if it's being worked on. I have an idea for a possible fix, but it's going to take a decent amount of effort to try it and right now, I don't have that much time. Perhaps when I get back from vacation, if it's still not fixed, I'll see what I can do. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 20:46, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

NCREdit

I don't know about changing everything that's NCR into [[New California Republic|NCR]], Toci. Really a bot can do that. But if you want to keep doing these many repetitive edits manually, it's your choice. You may also want to take a look at capital redirects, some work left there as well (like I just did with Discharge Hammer). Those keep popping up in the search bar, I'd like to get rid of them. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:52, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Bot requestEdit

Toci, can you let your bot run through the Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas locations category + subcats and Developers (subcats) and Actors categories? We now have about 1500 unused files on the Special:Unusedimages page which are really used. I don't know how it happened but if you let your bot make a null-edit they appear back on the page again. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:21, February 7, 2014 (UTC)

Well, see if maybe it clears up tomorrow after Wikia's cache. If not, you could make a space edit and revert it? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:53, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
Is your bot going to revert the nowiki code on all pages after this? Doesn't look well if it's added to all pages and stays there. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:36, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

( Something's not going entirely as planned. This is an example. NCR fully written is reverted and the change from File to file I'd rather not see. Underscores are ok to be removed but some get added back by the bot again. Or creature names you corrected are also reverted back again as can seen in the example above. You can continue with the New Vegas locations, but don't do any categories more today. Maybe it even clears up tomorrow. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:11, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

You can fix the underscores, poor linking ([[Duffle bag|duffle bag]] etc.), but file should be File with a capital (that's how it is an almost all pages I think). But wait with things tomorrow, you can do that and the cache force at the same run (if the unused images doesn't clear up). And I'd like to keep an eye on it myself. Your bot made me a bit nervous just now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:40, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
You don't have go through the Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas locations category + subcats and Developers (subcats) and Actors categories anymore. I made null-edits on all pages where the images appear to be unused and those will all clear up tomorrow. You can focus on the underscores and poor linking. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:12, February 8, 2014 (UTC)
Nah, you don't have to do that. Later on, we'll add an infobox like TV has it, then we can add the games template as well. It's not such a problem it's a dead end page. Important thing is that the dialogue are all added to the character's infoboxes now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:36, February 8, 2014 (UTC)

Pink BackpackEdit

I shall wear it with pride until the time when I am no longer the junior. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  19:46, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Bug Page Revamp Edit

I like that you've taken to creating this project, our bug pages, despite my best efforts, are still massively below our content standards. Creating a subproject to deal just with them alone is a great move, and perhaps with some focus on just the bug pages we can actually bring them up to par with the rest of our bug sections. ---bleep196- (talk) 22:07, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

Third-Person DiscussionEdit

Hi. I've opened up a forum to discuss a proposal to deal with our first-person-in-articles issue. Can you please give it a glance and share any feedback. Thanks 69.l25 (talk) 04:40, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

MelissaEdit

Thanks for taking care of the "Melissa (Great Khan)" link. I'm afraid that bad link was my doing. 69.l25 (talk) 04:31, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

ProjectEdit

Huh, I doubted it was finished at first but on second inspection, it's all done. Well thanks anyway, though to be honest I didn't do much work on it. Yes Man defaultUser Avatar talk 06:13, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks man. That was indeed from awhile ago, no? =P Anyway, hopefully we can wrap up the featured articles list. We've had tremendous progress recently and the end is in sight. I cannot help but sound hypocritical I think, considering I've been rather inactive the past few weeks (due to a new deluge of bullshit in my life). Thanks again. --Skire (talk) 17:15, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Chatmod to modEdit

Thanks for letting me know. I'll remove my concern then. 69.l25 (talk) 19:10, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

VoteEdit

Limmie handled it ok, put a strike through it. Consider it a first edit and not valid. Close with those wooden shoes. Haven't you heard? We wear speedskates half of the time in winter around here, that's why we're so good at it! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:44, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

Vote IIEdit

Broc hasn't asked to reopen the quest (yet?), so do you need to vote as of right now? 69.l25 (talk) 02:06, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Okay cool. Are you waiting for Chad to remove the page protection? 69.l25 (talk)

Technically, there's a few more hours until he meets the requirements =P But perhaps we could wait until Chad reopens it officially. Also, could you get on Skype real quick? Thx br0 --Skire (talk) 02:26, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

NP. Just wanted to ask you about some things. --Skire (talk) 02:46, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
How odd... Usually for that happens for me there's an issue with my internet connection. But it seems you are able to post on the wiki, so I'm at a loss as to what it could be. --Skire (talk) 03:06, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re:EnergyXEdit

Thank you, I think it's important we hear what he has to say before contacting a bureaucrat; I'll let one of them know if there's no response. And I'm sorry you just got moved those times without knowing! 69.l25 (talk) 04:51, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

BTW, I hope you didn't mind my moving of your name down to inactive while you were away =P I saw the feature as more of a tool for new users to contact staff rather than an indication of activity level. --Skire (talk) 00:06, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

HelloEdit

Vault Tec Fallout 3 logotipo

hello yes hi here's the pic

--Vault Tec Fallout 3 logotipo "Editing With Triple S Technology" 05:18, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

OfficialLolGuy's admin requestEdit

Hi, I've posted a report on the event between Chris The Sayain and LolGuy involving different potential claiming of Chris' work as Lol's. The report is here.

We have extended the voting period to 7 days from the posting of this message to allow everyone to have an informed say. You may of course if you choose, change your vote, or rationale, as you see fit. Agent c (talk) (via the courier) 00:10, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Saviour of the dammed Edit

Thanks for the good word. Sorry to hear you got sidetracked during your streak. I pretty much expected to make a blunder somewhere along the way myself but amazingly enough managed to keep going. Actually, a few months ago I suddenly had some major back pain and seriously thought I was going to have to have surgery. I figured that was going to end the streak for me but it turned out that I got through it with a back support and physical therapy, and within a couple of weeks I was all better, and more importantly, the streak was still going! Now I can feel free to throw my back out again and if I'm out of commission for a few days, it won't be quite as bad. --FFIX (talk) 00:47, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I believe that banning was very brash and irrational of you. I was most definitely being cyberbullying and you, as the moderator not only refused action in a time of need, but also went ballistic and mutinied the whole chat's process of removing cyberbullism. I believe in the utmost it is only fair for you to not only demote yourself from the position of moderator, but also reincorporate me into this wikia's chat establishments while referring to me as Swagmaster Blobboy. I commend my first amendment to my defense, freedom of speech. You see, I have the freedom to communicate using my opinions at any moment, and you were merely discriminating, even slandering, against me. If course of action is not taken into place I will gladly notify Wikia's helpline within this matter. I hope you will take responsibility for your actions and accept not only your punishments, but also that everyone is equal and everyone should be given fair treatment.

With utmost urgency, Swagmaster Blobboy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blobboy (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

22 pistol Edit

What was wrong with my edit? Drake Clawfang (talk) 04:11, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

EmailEdit

Hi there Tocinoman! I sent you an email to the address we have on file. Looking forward to hearing from you :-) Michael@Wikia(profile)•(talk) 04:38, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Request for recommendation Edit

I would like you, User:Skire and User:TwoBearsHigh-Fiving to take a look at a recent edit made by ToCxHawK on his user page. It seems that after another user was banned from chat (and later site-blocked), ToCxHawK posted a quote of that user's comment, the one the other user was banned for, on his user page (which he later removed). Frankly, to me, posting that comment in any form, quoting someone else or not, is very disturbing, and I feel a violation of policy meriting administrative action. I understand that we are required to assume good faith, so I asked him on his talk page to explain the reasoning behind posting the offensive quoted comment. His reply to me can be summed up as "I found it hilarious". I, personally, can find no humor at all in someone saying what the quoted user said. His explanation, to me, does not show he posted the objectionable content in error or any other way that can be termed "good faith". It appears to me that he either agrees with the sentiment, or, more probably, that he enjoys the offensive comment so much that he choose to re-post it as a quote on his user page.

If it were left up to me, he would be blocked for this edit. But understanding that I am one of the main targets of the comment he quoted, I am not comfortable doing that. I would prefer that you three examine this and return a recommendation to me for action. Please, in concert with the others, examine this and let me know of your decision, whatever that may be, as soon as you find possible. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 01:11, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you guys for getting back to me quickly. Before I act on your recommendation and remove his rights for 2 weeks, there's one question I feel needs to be asked: The incident in question does not involve his use of rights. It's a user conduct issue from my perspective. I would appreciate it if you could detail your rationale of using administrative conduct discipline (removal of rights) over user conduct discipline (site block). I suspect it's his position as moderator, but my question to that would be: What would your recommendation be if the user in question held no extra rights and why is that different in this case? I want to apply our policies as fairly as possible. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 18:51, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the recommendation. It will be implemented immediately. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 03:55, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Edit

I'm at work on my phone, it will have to wait. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 03:56, March 8, 2014 (UTC)


2 funny 4 me Edit

Chocolate Chip Cookies - kimberlykv
You have been given a cookie.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
your 2 funny 4 me Greets Fireburn12 (talk) (blog) 10:41, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Edit

Thank you! I will use them to better chat :) Thank you Master Toci RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 04:46, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Medal Edit

Hi, Nick! Thanks for the medal. It was an honour participating in the project, all those months ago. :-)

I'm kind of absent lately, but I'll come back eventually. Life is a bitch, and it has this thing of dragging us away from things that we cherish. This is still a home to me, that's how I feel about Nukapedia, and I'll make my way back soon, hopefully.

Cheers, --C'n-Frankie -ArroyoTalk 19:13, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Featured WikianEdit

Today I discovered you're the Featured Wikian. Congratulations! I added it to Agent c's news digest, hope that's ok with you. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:59, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats Edit

Just a quick congratulations on being a featured wikian. Keep up the great work, Toci. --MountHail (talk) 21:25, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Anon IP Edit

Hello fellow administrator! I'd like to implement a script from the Open Source Wiki that allows the Wikia Contributor designation to be replaced with their IP address on forums, recent changes, etc. This would be set so that only administrators would have this script enabled, and I'd like feedback to see if this is something we should implement. Leave your thoughts on my talkpage. Thanks! --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 05:14, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Text files Edit

You want some help with those there text files? I can start you in the back and meet you in the middle ;D --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 04:06, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

I think that was the middle of the FO3 files ;p --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 05:03, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
I went on the FO3 Dialogue category, opened up 12401823048 tabs, and just went ballistic. You probably had the better approach :D --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 05:05, May 8, 2014 (UTC)
I was actually about to head out on a bike ride. I'd love to when I come back, but if you get there before I do then please go ahead :) --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 05:11, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Raven Rock Edit

I'm actually surprised, but, based off a quick search, the only terminals in Raven Rock are in fact the one already on the terminal page and the generic ones that open those force fields. Paladin117>>iff bored; 05:15, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Got banned by chris can u unban me —Preceding unsigned comment added by DownLikeSyndrome (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Will you endorse me? Edit

I've decided to run for chat mod, and I was hoping I could have your backing and support in this endeavor, in the form of an endorsement. What do you need, boss? (talk) 17:59, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Page Deletion Edit

Howdy Toci, there's a page that needs deleting, Devin Morris. A couple of anons keep editing it, however it's obviously not game content or something covered by the wiki. Gonna leave this message on a few admins' pages as well to see who bites first. Richie9999 (talk) 06:08, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Burs got it, removing link. Richie9999 (talk) 06:19, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

CatsEdit

Honestly, at this point I don't know what to tell you. There's been a number of things I've brought up that just went nowhere. The same happened with the category tree situation. Personally, I would be perfectly fine removing any parent categories from content pages. Content pages, unlike overview pages and portals, in my mind should never be included in a category who's purpose is to list other categories. I have no idea if anyone else here agrees with me though. I reckon, if you get J on board, you can probably make the changes, since he's the one most likely to want to leave them as they are. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 19:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

This is causing me some headache to make a choice. These removals have disadvantages (also some advantages probably) and I need some more time to sort them out. Get back to you. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:28, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Veto Edit

No offense, but do you have a good reason for wanting to overturn community consensus? I am 100% for the option to gain a second consensus in times of need - but from what I am looking at, you are only wanting to veto because you personally did not like the community results. I am not going to say you cannot try and veto or anything, but I am genuinely curious as to why you are attempting to step all over community consensus with no reason given so far except that you personally disapprove?

And do not think that I am sending this message to you because I personally want the policy change to stay. Keep in mind that my thoughts line up with option 3, meaning I was supporting the Bureaucrats having the choice to both endorse and vote. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 05:50, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

That is more like it - my main concern is that you are messaging users without really explaining your position, which gives me the impression, at least, that this is a veto due to personal disliking. Not sure if you want my opinion, but this is not really the way to handle this matter. Majority vote is always how we have handled matters, ever since our autocracy ended, with very few exceptions born in cases of extreme controversy.
Vetoing, to me, is if the community makes a mistake that harms the wiki. For instance, if the community gets together to remove a ban, even though there is evidence proving the ban is warranted, then the Administrators would get together and form a veto. But in a case like this, the community has made a decision, and that must be respected. If we are to contest majority votes in cases of heavy opposition leading to a close result, then that needs to be brought up separately instead of creating a new precedent that the community can be completely ignored so long as there the result is a close-call. Otherwise, community votes become a facade in any vote that is not a simple matter, and the wiki really ends up being controlled by rights users. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 06:08, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hi Toci

My understanding is due to a lack of majority we are not implementing option A. Majority is 50%+1, and looking at the other two options people seem more in tune with allowing it (some with caveats) than not Agent c (talk) 07:14, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

How anyone with a straight face can claim a democratic mandate or c immunity consensus when more people not just opposed their idea, but voted for positions that are completely incompatible is beyond me. If the only way is a Veto, then yes you do have my support for the reasons stated, to allow a clear precedent that where 3 or more propositions are presented (neeutral not counting) a majority of 50%+1 votes (and quorum of 10 votes) must be present for an option to pass. Decision making cannot be done by splitting the votes agaist a proposition buy including minor variations of a proposition the vote proposer opposes anyway.Agent c (talk) 07:34, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re:VetoEdit

While I agree that a consensus was not reached in this case, I cannot support a veto on the grounds of improper procedure, because in fairness we have not addressed within our policies cases of plurality as opposed to majority. I would however support a veto because of this lack of distinction, at which point we would need to address our existing policies regarding votes. If the community decides that in the case of multi-option votes, first-past-the-post (plurality) is sufficient, I would be comfortable applying that to this decision as well. If a simple (50%+n, n>0) majority is desired by the community, then we should hold another vote in an attempt to gain the majority. I will support a veto for this reason, but not for what you call 'improper procedure' as our procedures do not dictate what happens in these events, therefore the decision that is made cannot be considered improper. Hope that answers your question. Let me know how you intend to move forth. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  23:39, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Veto Edit

VetoEdit

I decided today that instead of arguing from my personal knowledge and experience, that I would instead argue using cold facts. What I am about to show you is that vetoing under the pretense that a simple majority was not achieved, renders your Administrative veto illegitimate until a time comes in which you repeal our simple majority policy for community votes.

Long version:

  1. Our policies state: "To this end, the normal procedure for proposing new policies and guidelines or changing existing ones is to create a topic in the "wiki discussion" forum. Once the discussion has led to a final draft, call a vote. The vote needs to run for a week at minimum and at least ten votes are required for it to be valid; a simple majority is sufficient to pass. Voting requirements for those wishing to participate are that they must have a registered account, and have made at least one edit prior to the start of the vote."
  2. The Dictionary defines simple majority as: "A majority in which the highest number of votes cast for any ONE candidate, issue, or item exceeds the second-highest number, while not constituting an absolute majority."
  3. The Dictionary defines absolute majority as: "A number of votes totalling over 50 per cent, such as the total number of votes or seats obtained by a party that beats the combined opposition."

Short version:

  1. Our policies state that normal procedure is to go by simple majority.
  2. The literal definition of simple majority clearly states that a majority is achieved by whichever single or one vote has the highest number of votes.
  3. The literal definition of simple majority clearly states "...while not constituting an absolute majority." - Your argument is that the option with the highest number of votes did not achieve simple majority since it did not receive 50%+1 votes or more. But 50%+1 or more votes is absolute majority, which is not what we follow in our policies.
  4. So by attempting to veto the single option with the highest number of votes, you are attempting to violate our policies, which clearly defines normal procedure follows simple majority instead of absolute majority. For this veto to succeed, you first need to repeal the simple majority policy entirely, and keep the area a gray spot, or specify that we instead create results through the use of absolute majority. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 00:24, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Skype Edit

Sorry to bother you, but I sent Danny a message saying you wanted to meet in chat. He just got back to me and said he is afk, and for you to jump onto Skype and message him there instead. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:18, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Who the hell do you think you are to undo my actions? Edit

Nah, just kidding. I rechecked the policies and you're right, they don't mention how old the account must be. It was for long one of our unwritten policies that accounts had be at least a week old and have an edit prior to it. We decided to stop the unwritten policies thing and legitimize them, which was when that paragraph was added. But for some reason we overlooked the account age and the vote just settled down the one-edit-prior restriction. Bummer.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 07:58, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

Came expecting drama I am so disappointed. Metal Gear Mk. II "Anything, for the family" 08:01, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm a mean girl.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 08:03, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
You haven't had enough drama in the last week, Denis? @Limmie, Yeah I was under the impression that 1 week was still the rule until I was just browsing the policies a few days ago and read that line. I hate when things like that get by me. >.< Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 13:48, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

YoEdit

Turns out that Dog Script Test Dude does exist in the GECK and I was just having trouble finding it. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 00:52, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

what if i told you that you were brown????????? Detroit lions Hawk da Barber 2013 - BSHU Graduate 08:00, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

CategoriesEdit

Right. I postponed it cause I'm still ot sure what to do with it. You can make a thread of it and also mention what your plans are, which categories you want to change, what the pros and cons are. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 12:29, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Kreger's rank Edit

To be completely honest with you, I have no idea where that particular claim/tidbit originates from man. I don't recall his official military rank in the Enclave being outlined by himself or any of the other remnants in NV.

It's possible I'm overlooking something, but since I tend to memorize any and all Enclave lore in a very short amount of time, I'm not completely sure. :P Enclavesymbol 20:38, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

BotEdit

Ah, hey. I was wondering if you could set your bot to do this:

[[Healing rate]] → [[Healing Rate]]

The fact is that the capitalization rules allow the latter one to be used, since we cap all statistics. Energy X 14:55, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

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