The Gunny

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  • I live in the garage, smoking Brazilian cigars and drinking dark beer
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Re:Forum Edit

I have made the appropriate changes. While it was never intended as a rights-removal request or a motion of no confidence, I can understand how the original wording and intent would portray it as such. --Skire (talk) 22:39, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Vote Edit

Isn't that what voting no is for? When the votes are actually put up, there will definitely be a no section to vote in on both options. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:00, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Each vote only goes to its corresponding option. If someone votes yes on option 1? That means they support it. If someone votes no on option 2? It means they don't support it. Even if someone votes yes or no on one option, and then they choose not to vote on the other option, it still doesn't change that they either voted yes or no on at least one of them. Hell, if they want too, they can vote yes or no on both (or neutral). It just seems redundant to me to have a third vote specifically to vote no on, when you can already vote no on the others. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:33, January 14, 2014 (UTC)
I did answer your question. No one is being forced to vote twice. Each vote is a standalone, and doesn't affect how the other one ultimately turns out. Just because someone votes no on the Admin option, without voting on the Patroller option, doesn't mean that they support the Patroller option. That doesn't even make sense - it would require the Bureaucrats to make assumptions. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 04:41, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Reviews Edit

Read over your sandbox. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. I'll fully admit that maybe I'm being too idealistic with this concept. But I figured it'd be in our best interests to at least see what the community thinks about such an ideal. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:48, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

From my end, everything looks about right. However, I'd definitely give 69 a ring, as we got to talking a few days ago, and we were discussing how a few of his original points weren't being addressed. It is his deal, so I want to make sure he's getting represented properly. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:54, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

It looks fine, and I suggest we get started on voting very soon; this topic has been here for quite a while. Everything I want to say I'll add to a separate forum, and, yes, we can keep the vote to just what's been discussed in the forum already. 69.l25 (talk) 22:04, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Looks alright to me, I suppose. Maybe it's because of my relative youth, but three years still seems like a ridiculously long time for a review >_> --Skire (talk) 23:34, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

We could always add in an option for shorter years. Other than that, do you think we're ready to put up a vote? 69.l25 (talk) 23:49, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, sounds good. Thanks! --Skire (talk) 00:01, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

I had you bookmarked Edit

Hay Gunny what happened to your " User blog:The Gunny/Admin talk - Image uploading, categorizing and licensing " page?

  • Did you rewrite it or did it just get lost in the shuffle.

You had some useful info there. Please advise ?

SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help." 00:44, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Dialogue filesEdit

Forwarded from Paladin's talkpage
Good news. I got an offer from Theodorico over the Russian wiki to take a look at the FO3/FNV dialogue files and he can make a program that would automate the conversion. So it's best to wait until he gets it running and then we can assemble some workforce. 22:43, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Quest chartsEdit

Do you have any idea why our quest charts are messed up? The branches aren't always visible anymore, like in Reilly's Rangers (quest) and lots more. The colspan appears to have something to do with it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:36, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

Porter threadEdit

Are you still going to vote on the Porter thread? Time's almost up. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:36, January 19, 2014 (UTC)


Hi Gunny. I noticed you pinged me in chat earlier today. Do you still need me? --Skire (talk) 23:22, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Expression errorsEdit

We are getting expression errors on newly edited pages, similar to a year ago. Just asked Wikia to take a look at it. Must be a problem with the infobox. Nuclear weapons, which was just edited, is still ok. Also asked them about the chart problem. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:49, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Clarification Edit

Hi Gunny. Chat was hectic and I initially had a problem distinguishing between the review vote we have now that the review I asked for. But I wish to clarify: I am requesting a performance of my job as an admin over the last year. I saw something on the Graveyard wiki that resembled it, but then realised it was something else. I couldn't tell if what you said in chat was serious or jocular. If you do not want to make another one, that will be the end of it. I just want a definite yes or no. --Skire (talk) 02:03, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Understood. And thanks for the quick response. --Skire (talk) 02:12, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Visual errorEdit

I found something really weird today:
Visual error

I checked the history of the page, the edit Tocinoman did before that edit, everything was fine, and after that edit, this screen came up. Checked with multiple page refreshes. After I undid his last edit, it was all back to normal, and the history also no longer displayed this... I have no clue what caused it, but I thought it might have been best to pass this on to you. Maybe you can explain it? - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 13:54, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

So I ignore it next time, or I do an undo from the last edit and then undo the undo I just did?
PS: Chad would like to speak to you in chat
- Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 20:36, January 21, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I'll post other pages here if I would come across similar pages. I should also screenshot like this time or is sending a link just enough? - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 20:43, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

Response from WikiaEdit

The chart issue is a Chrome rendering issue, apparently. Not sure if this is how Chrome will be handling this from now on, or whether it's a bug. Essentially, Chrome is collapsing table rows that have no data in them... this is sensible in a sense.

You can fix that in the meantime by ensuring your template adds <td> values within those empty rows.

Can you check the {{Chart}} template and see if you can insert the <td> value? Expression errors are gone, just lasted half an hour. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:10, January 21, 2014 (UTC)

not sure if this is about the same problem, but the screenshot taken above this post, is from Firefox - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 16:21, January 21, 2014 (UTC)


Hello bureaucrat, admin, moderator, chat mod, or patroller!

Can you please take a look at this forum and voice any opinion you may have.

Thank you
69.l25 (talk) 00:11, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Both comments were added after it was decided that all discussion be halted in that forum. I informed each user that their comments could go back up immediately after the halt is lifted, and I had no intention of leaving them out for good. As the people on the forum are trying to prevent discussion as of right now, I ask that comments added after our decision to put the discussion on hold be removed for now to prevent any intensive to further discussion. 69.l25 (talk) 01:09, January 22, 2014 (UTC)
Understood. 69.l25 (talk) 01:19, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

"One of the other admins" went to eat some dinner. And I don't see anything wrong with you locking it. --Skire (talk) 01:38, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

I just didn't understand what you meant by saying that someone else should have done it already... I mean, J did respond fast, as did yourself. --Skire (talk) 01:47, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

BearBot Edit

BearBot is up and functioning, at your service. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 03:21, January 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Talk page deletionEdit

That was not the place to leave the user a note. Talkpages are not for that user discussing issues he or she encountered in the game; additionally, none of their problems even pertained to the article's subject. I did, however, add the bugs they spoke about into the proper articles, so there's no problem. 69.l25 (talk) 21:33, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

Want to contact the user and ask them what they meant? If there's no response, we only have what they wrote as a reference, and what they wrote mentioned campfires and workbenches; they could have meant to post it under the workbench talkpage and posted it under reloading bench by mistake, but I wouldn't get too involved in any theories. 69.l25 (talk) 21:52, January 24, 2014 (UTC)
Well it did violate the policy. I didn't remove it because it was off-topic, I removed it because it said, "This happened to me on my personal playthrough." Was it a bug? Sure, but we have a "Bugs" section for a reason; even if they clarified in their post that the bug was with the reloading bench, this report would only be moved to the "Bugs" section. 69.l25 (talk) 22:14, January 24, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, I've been taking that programming class in school, and while I may not have the greatest grade in it, I know some java stuff if you'd like to see what I could possibly do on the wiki. Later best friend, Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 23:05, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

A thank you Edit

While we didn't exactly leave on a good note, I want to thank you very much for letting me know about my account. I've fixed the issue as much as I know how and I appreciate the help a lot. I wish I could say more, but I was never good at anything other than a normal thank you. I wish you the best Gunny. Metal Gear Mk. II "Anything, for the family" 21:41, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Dialogue files progressEdit

I've created 9 FNV dialogue export files, for the characters with the most lines. When they are created, they get a name DialogueExport<name character>.txt. I suggest we leave the DialogueExport out for the name we're gonna use. You can see the results and naming in Category:Fallout: New Vegas dialogue files. Theo asked me a complete export so that's what I did. He then uses his bot with this as result, for Caesar. I've done extensive research on which columns we need and come up with User:Jspoelstra/sandbox1. It's similar to what TV has. I'm going to ask Theo to put these 9 files into tables and see how it looks. Possibly one column can be removed and one merged, first I'd like to see how things look. In the meantime I'll take a look at a fitting infobox. If you have a remark, let me know. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:03, January 25, 2014 (UTC)


I see what you mean. I changed it back again. It's just that I hate unneeded red links and this one had been sitting there for just a bit too long on wanted pages. But now I see it can't be changed. It's for the main namespace article talkpage, not for the template talkpage. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:44, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

It's not such a big problem, but I'd rather not see it on admin pages. They're the ones most visited and profiled after all and leaves a bit of a bad impression. But I'm not willing to sacrifice wikiwide page load time for it though. Guess we'll have to order Garoux to take it down then :)?! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:06, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Template Spree Edit

Unfortunately, it became a case of running out of time and using the resources that were in front of me and making due. If you'd like to help in removing a bit of my inconsistency, then I certainly wouldn't scoff at such an offer. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 18:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)


Why don't you have your chatbot in chat? Haven't seen it in four days now. Is there a reason for it? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:45, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

Bot Edit

Here is my best shot.

Bot user: Quality Control

Operator: Lil' Miss Rarity

Software: Open source software hosted on GitHub.

Task(s): Perform wiki tasks based on commands given by flagged users on chat.

Details: The bot would sit on chat and have the abillity to perform administrative tasks based on commands given by authorized users. These commands range from adding messages on talkpages to deleteing unused images. The bot could also be used to convey short messages to users when one isn't present in chat.

Rights required: Sysop.

Lil' Miss Rarity ]Open Source[ (talk) 00:30, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Concerning my vote Edit

As per your chat request, I will leave a message here concerning my vote on 69's adminship request and his progression on addressing the issues raised against him over the last month. I'm afraid I'm going to change my neutral vote to a no, Gunny. Although he reminds me of how I was at that stage in my experience here. I know you remember quite fondly that I had a bad experience in conversing with a user who insisted on adding baseless speculation into weapons articles and would not listen to my attempts to inform him of our policy. That was indeed a one-off when I lost my cool and blew my first shot at admin by lashing out at the user in the chat and on his talk page. However, over the next few months, I maintained my composure and did everything in my power to ensure that I treated all users with the respect I expect to be given by others. This has carried over into my adminship, and it has become a part of who I am as a person. Three months later, I reapplied for the position and was unanimously voted in.

I think 69 is experiencing a similar situation. I think that he can work on the issues that have been raised to him over the next couple of months whether he is an admin or is waiting to reapply, and the result will be a very positive change. He has done wonderful work for the wiki thus far, and I am anxious to see what major contributions he provides in the future. Thank you for taking my input into consideration. Toci US Air Force Into the wild blue yonder... 05:06, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

While on the topic, I probably won't be available on the first of February, when the result would (probably) be published. I don't think it will make a difference, but if you plan on making the decision then and need something from me, I won't be available for most of the day. 69.l25 (talk) 05:30, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re: About you bot Edit

All of those things are very much doable. I'll implement them straight away. Lil' Miss Rarity ]Open Source[ (talk) 23:23, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Bot question Edit

I saw your blog post about "bot accounts," and I was wondering, what is it? How does it work? Leea (talk) 12:59, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Asnswered by Agent c.

Redlinked imagesEdit

Is there a reason why you added all redlinked images in your sandbox? They're all missing the last character of the image name. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:01, January 28, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for the great design, it's what I had in mind. Only thing that I could think of that could improve the overall layout, would be if the text bubbles could be have the same red border instead of the black (like border: thick solid red; color:red; in the top table). Anyway, already thanks a lot for the work, if the red border couldn't be fixed, no problem. Also great work on resizing the text bubbles! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 23:47, January 28, 2014 (UTC)

Talk pagesEdit

I have a funny feeling much of this was because of me. Let me explain: All two of the questioned talk page removals were done the same day a user made a post I deemed questionable. Of course the first removal was undone, but the second, although questioned at first, stays. I want to make it clear that I don't intend to clear out all talk pages, but when I see a recent change to one, I'll remove something if I need to. Plus, I'm going to clear any bug-related posts with Bleep. This will help clear everything up. 69.l25 (talk) 01:22, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

69.l25 Adminship RequestEdit

I've reflected on this past month here. It was designed to serve as an outline of how I personally approached the opportunity and what I find important. I've addressed the general concerns and why I am still seeking adminship. If you find it important, please take a look. 69.l25 (talk) 02:17, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

A (late) Holiday GiftEdit

Moschetto 91 - 38
You have been given a Carcano Model 1891/38 Carbine with bayonet.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Thought you once told me you were still missing this one? Anyway, a Merry Christmas and a happy new year, I know i may be a bit late, but had exams then and decided to delay my wishes a bit. If it's too late for you, then consider it a Chinese new year ;) Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 09:50, January 30, 2014 (UTC)


Last days I've noticed all kinds of errors with images, especially ones where they didn't apear for a long time after being uploaded. Do you know anything about it? - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 14:41, January 30, 2014 (UTC)

Charts and mobileEdit

Gunny, can you ask Wikia to take a look at our chart problems in Chrome again (you can describe it in more tech detail than I)? It doesn't go away if we do nothing. Seems they know an answer for it, given the earlier response. And at the same time, can you ask them to take look at our mobile display? Try User:Grunny or User:Rappy 4187 I think. They are programmers. We're one of their top wikis, they should spend some time on these problems for us. The Vault has it ok, so there is a solution. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:55, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I mean the mobile look, not the app look. It's looking awful. See
Mobile look

All kinds of other problems as well. Soundfiles, font size, buttons, template overview boxes. All distorted and/or unusable. You can check it on a PC also by opening a page, using Preview and then selecting Mobile (bottom option). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:32, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

Custom community messages popup Edit

Hey Gunny, I remember some time ago that you were looking into creating custom popups for the community messages. Did anything come out of that?
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Notable content templateEdit

We have a small problem with the {{Notable content}} template on the Courier's Mile. [More...] moves down the top of the second infobox, instead of the top of the Notable loot section. You think you can solve it? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:43, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

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Ironing out the last wrinkles as we speak on the dialogues. Theo has made it look great. You can check his sandbox, let us know if you want something different. Looks all good to me, even with "anchors"! Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:38, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Oddities with mw-collapse Edit

Hi! As I can see it, the problem is that there are too many floating elements. Depending on what you are up to, you could take two routes:

  1. Wrap both infoboxes in "something" and make it float instead. E.g. [[User:Теодорико/sandbox02]] I've wrapped them in a div (table will do) and made it float:right.
  2. Go for custom controller.

--Теодорико (talk) 20:06, February 2, 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad I could help. --Теодорико (talk) 11:58, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Referencing policyEdit

Hi. We're looking for feedback on this and hopefully we can reach consensus quickly. Agent c (talk) (via the courier) 01:13, February 3, 2014 (UTC)


I've lost my rubber stamp, so this message of approval will have to do. Agent c (talk) 02:16, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Tried it in preview. Between Did you know and Helping out is ok I think. Jspoel


Do you now a way to get rid of at least a part of the excess yellow on the {{Featurebox}} template? It's wasting a lot of space and pushes other relevant content down (community messages). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:17, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Quick Walkthrough Charts Edit

Hey, Gunny. I'm sure you've noticed, but a lot of the quick walkthrough charts are broken (ex: Come Fly With Me), and I have no idea why. I was semi-active when that project happened, and I never understood the coding and formatting involved in making those tables. Who should we talk to about fixing those things? Victor (Doug) is inactive right now, so I don't know how much he could do - or how long it would take him to answer, for that matter. Toci US Air Force Into the wild blue yonder... 08:46, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

UPDATE: It seems that the charts are only broken in Chrome. They look fine in Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, and Safari. On Chrome, they look like this: Broken table Toci US Air Force Into the wild blue yonder... 09:14, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Banned accountsEdit

I'm trying to figure out why you only temporarily banned DickTickler. That's a name that should be banned indefinitely for being offensive. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:55, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Third-Person DiscussionEdit

Hi. I've opened up a forum to discuss a proposal to deal with our first-person-in-articles issue. Can you please give it a glance and share any feedback. Thanks 69.l25 (talk) 04:40, February 12, 2014 (UTC)

Project Medal Edit

Nukapedia Project Medal
You have been awarded the Nukapedia Project Medal for your efforts within the Fallout 3 and New Vegas quotations project.
For participating in the FO3 and F:NV quotations project Toci US Air Force Into the wild blue yonder... 04:55, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry it's late. I didn't realize the project was declared finished. Toci US Air Force Into the wild blue yonder... 04:55, February 13, 2014 (UTC)

Patroller rightsEdit

I hereby would like to officially inform you that you can remove my patroller rights. I would like to thank you for my time over here and the trust that has been put in me all the time I have been here as special rightsholder. I will most probably leave the wikia, but I may jump in chat from time to time.
Yours sincerely,

Peace'n Hugs

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This is 100% better. All that extra yellow space bothered me a lot, so thanks for fixing it! I don't see any problems right now in your sandbox page, so you can change it on the template. Next project the charts problem? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:57, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I'll second this. Since chat's been dead I've been scouring talk pages and I couldn't help but congratulate you for this.
They look much better now and I wish you luck with the charts :p --The Ever Ruler (talk) 22:34, February 21, 2014 (UTC)

Urgent Edit

Hey gunny, this is very urgent, if you can...pop into chat so I can discuss matters with you. Thank you. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Patroller..." Wiki 21:06, February 23, 2014 (UTC)

Meeting DateEdit

Original deadline has been pushed to tomorrow, so I want to take this chance to discuss a formal meeting time so I can get together with all of the Bureaucrats and discuss possible affiliations and what would be expected from both sides. The opportune time for me would be at 6:30 (as of now for reference, the time is currently 4:26). Does this time suit you as well, or would a different time fit better into your schedule? ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:28, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

It seems 15:00 will be the best time - does that work with you (for your convenience, it is now currently 9:24)? ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 15:26, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
Jumping into chat now an hour early if you want to get some basic questions out of the way before we all get together. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 19:49, February 25, 2014 (UTC)


That sucks. A lot of these charts are on high profile quest pages, which are a disadvertisement for our wiki now. Don't ask Theo, he's got his plate full. Try Wikia again, they seem to know an answer, at least temporary. It's also in their best interest to solve it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:14, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

It looks good! It's absolutely doable, has to be done. I suggest you can add the explanation how to fix it on Fallout Wiki:Walkthrough Chart Project: New Vegas and Fallout Wiki:Walkthrough Chart Project: Fallout 3 (there you'll also see the errors) and put up a blog or ask around in chat to get some workforce. People can add their name to the project page. This is a priority project. Together we can make quick work of it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:27, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

New template Edit

Hey Gunny. I've had this template under construction for awhile, publishing it only today. Could you check over the code and make sure everything is in order? Also, I'm open to suggestions for improvement, especially since my understanding of templates is still rather limited. --Skire (talk) 03:23, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! And if you don't mind explaining, what exactly is the difference between subst: and safesubst:?

Edits Edit

I often remove spaces like that because they don't actually do anything besides for possible convenience in case of some other editors like the beginners, I often aim for efficiency even if that is more complicated. --Breakin'Benny (talk) 22:17, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

Or maybe all pages without those spaces, which'd be my own way of doing it. --Breakin'Benny (talk) 11:33, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Quest chartsEdit

Wow, you did that fast. I had thought it would be much more work. Energy X added them to Fallout and Fallout 2 quest pages, but most of them are simple charts, it'll be done in no-time. Tactics are normal pages, no charts. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 02:13, March 5, 2014 (UTC)

quote Edit

i found it hilarious, hence why i posted it, like all other quotes on my page. no offense was intended of course, though we have our disagreements, i know that your children have nothing to do with our affairs and would wish nothing bad upon them. Detroit lions Hawk da Barber 2013 - BSHU Graduate 02:54, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Second opinion Edit

Posting that even in jocular context is extremely unbecoming for any user, especially a moderator. I'm sorry to say that I would support some punishment in this case, perhaps not a wiki ban but a good chat ban would do. (Stricken by TwoBears for not reaching a consensus with other admins) -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 03:06, March 8, 2014 (UTC)


Can you remove my patroller rights? I'm very busy, and I don't have the time to use them anymore. I'll be here for the next day or two to do some more work with the First-Person Project, but I can't make much time after that. And just to be clear, I will not be asking for them back anytime soon. 69.l25 (talk) 05:03, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Admin Consensus concerning Hawk Edit

After deliberating via private message with Skire and Tocinoman, we have decided that the appropriate action to take is a two week removal of Hawk's moderator rights. This is behavior unfitting of any user, especially a moderator. It is in incredibly poor taste, and comedic value is no defense. We hope that Hawk may return and carry himself more of what we'd like a moderator to be. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 05:52, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

I understand your concern. I'm at work on break right now, but when I get off I will regroup with Skire and Tocinoman and we'll see if something different comes of it. -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 20:01, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Blog in Chinese Edit

The blog's written in traditional Chinese, so I had some trouble reading it. But basically it's a personal anecdote combined with a promotion (of sorts) for his personal blog (which was linked). It doesn't seem quite appropriate here... --Skire (talk) 21:59, March 8, 2014 (UTC)

It's done. I also noticed that he got banned from chat for spamming, so that would confirm his intentions I think. --Skire (talk) 01:56, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Admin consensus (pt. 2)Edit

Gunny, after further discussion amongst ourselves, we have agreed upon a 3-day site block followed by a week of extra user rights suspension. This is because we believe the offence to be a rather unique one, and would therefore recommend a more unique action. HawK would be on a week-long block normally, which we believe to be too severe in this case. A 3-day site block and a week-long extra user rights suspension seems to be more fitting. For future intents and purposes, this would be considered his second block (normally a week long). Since we believe a 3-day block is insufficient, we recommend the extra user rights suspension as well. This way, HawK will be able to still utilise the chat and have some time to reflect on his mistakes. --Skire (talk) 03:31, March 9, 2014 (UTC)

True Police Stories AuthorEdit

Gunny, the reason why I didn't add any information after the page was deleted was because there wasn't any information to add. The author's page was not cited, and even when we figured out where the name came from, there were still a bunch of disagreements. So, there was nothing solid to add as a note (I'm pretty sure we still don't have a name), and I don't want this to look like the discussion was overshadowing the whole situation, and we should have been adding the name first; it would have been wrong for us to add something unconfirmed. 69.l25 (talk) 02:59, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Nuka-Cola artEdit

I was just looking at that, while categorizing. I'll see what I can find out. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:01, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

The Quantum and Nuka-Cola logo are ok I think, they're just a little bit retouched for sharpness and size. The bottlecap is fan-art. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:25, March 11, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that isn't supposed to be there. I removed it and uploaded a new image. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:29, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Portal lookEdit

Sure, go ahead and change it. Looks fine to me. We can do with a bit of a change there after so many years of the same look. But then do the other portals as well. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:23, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

I forgot to get back to you on this. I like the layout but the way it looks in 8.1 in firefox is bad. I have new drivers and version of firefox. Same in IE. I need someone to verify this though. Screenshot --Kingclyde (talk) 01:51, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
Did you fix the problem in FireFox? It's a necessity. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:05, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
Worked out well, I believe. Bit of a fresh, new look to it. Well done! Did you make the header letter-font a bit bigger? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 16:53, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
Ok cool. That would explain the smashing (the bar). My "monitor" is my 55" Samsung TV so I think it's wide enough lol. It looks good though.--Kingclyde (talk) 17:19, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Fantasy TripEdit

Hey Gunny... I added 3 points to the dividable points that the halfling race gives rather than work on 35 (as that seemed to be the difference between the human base of 32 and 35, and the halfling seems to have less points in total). But if you wanna give me a few more... Won't object ;)

Robin Poore

AKA Aris Van Tottle and Lord Wilmott-Marbury (amongst other Aliases).
Halfling Grifter/Thief

+1 Reaction
+3 DX for Missile and throwing weapons
+1 Damage for Missile and throwing weapons
-2DX for non Missle/Throwing weapons vs Giant Sized creatures.
Baseline 4 ST, 12 DX, 8IQ. +6/9 points
ST 4 (unmodified)
DX 14 (+2)
IQ 15 (+7)
Talents (15)
  • Throwing Weapons(2)
  • Alertness (2)
  • Recognise Value (1)
  • Detect Traps (1 - Reduced due to alertness)
  • Remove Traps (1 - reduced due to detect)
  • Thief (2)
  • Master Thief (2)
  • Silent Movement (2)
  • Thieves Argot (1)
  • Whatever the most appropriate free common language is.

I'm thinking of trying to play him more as a con man/braggard rather than a straight sneaky thief (although he can sneak obviously). I was also thinking the Charisma talent, but master thief gives the help to lying, and charisma seems to just replicate the racial reaction bonus... If I had another point I'd throw it into courtly graces just to help boost the "Lord Wilmott-Marbury" alias.

What happens with Gear? Obviously the "Job" would be professional thief with this skill set. I'm thinking some throwing knives and a boomerang, appropriate thieves kit, and some light armour (Looks like I can afford a 3-4 point dex reduction or so given the racial bonus to throwing weapons).

Concerned about the lack of mage though... But lets see what happens. Agent c (talk) 14:06, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Chat message received. Thanks for that. Had to look a few times to see what the difference was on the portal thingie, but when I realised the headings were bigger... I had to wonder why it didn't look like that already. I'd say implement. Agent c (talk) 00:11, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

How does this look?

Aris Van Tottle
ST 10
DX 10
IQ 15

1 Literacy

1 Staff Spell IQ8
1 Magic Fist IQ8
1 3-hex Fire IQ12
1 Fireball IQ12
1 Freeze IQ12

1 Control Animal IQ11
1 Control Person IQ13

1 Reverse Missles IQ11
1 Iron Flesh IQ15

1 Knock IQ10

1 Detect Magic IQ8
1 Analyze Magic IQ12

1 4-Hex Illusion IQ14
1 Invisibility IQ12

Agent c (talk) 23:09, March 23, 2014 (UTC)


I went in-game (GECK didn't show it well) and added the more specific location. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:11, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Ref tag in a template Edit

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Verify template Edit

Why the new changes to the verify template? I didn't think that there was anything wrong with it. Leea (talk) 22:04, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Hidden bug category Edit

Thanks Gunny, this category will be massively helpful. ---bleep196- (talk) 14:50, March 16, 2014 (UTC)


Sounds ideal. Agent c (talk) 19:05, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

That means we're getting 2 subcategories below [[:Category:Forum archives]], right? A category [Wiki discussion archives] and a category [Proposals and application archives]. Moving them shouldn't be such a problem, it's only 800 pages which is not that much. You can easily check what kind of forum it is by the name or looking at the history of the page. Remember that some of the forum history wouldn't match for the correct category, because when we were still TV, applications were in the Wiki discussion forum. Those need to move to the Proposals and applications category. Other than that, changes to the header template look ok to me. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:00, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

Forum archives Edit

I kind of jumped at the archive idea when Clyde brought it up in a forum discussion. All the discussions and proposals were thrown into one archive category. In hindsight, I believe that was too hasty and I sacrificed organisation for expediency. I notice you're setting up a new system. Please let me know how I (via my bot) can help in reforming the archives. --Skire (talk) 01:19, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

You'll probably curse me right now, but I don't really see a need for pinned discussions. Everything that needs attention is already at the top of the forum pages most of the time and what needs attention is highlighted already in the Community Messages. Now we need to keep track on what needs pinning and when to unpin it. Also, we're more or less are returning to where we were before, with a link to the archived forums at the bottom of the archives (compared to ->Next). But I guess it's a good things we're splitting the archives to more detail. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:56, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
I think everything looks pretty good. I like how you separated the pinned posts, that's very helpful.--Kingclyde (talk) 19:33, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

width of article main page Edit

Hi Gunny,

I'm writing you because I've seen that you support the German fallout wiki from time to time... Do you have any idea how to extend the width of the mainpage to get the width at the Nukapedia? Background: At some articles with not so much text sometimes the info boxes conflicts with other tables. A good example should be the article for Cooper. Shure, we could make all of these boxes a bit smaller, but I think thats not enough and hard to read. p.s. sorry for my bad english... :-/

regards, Hoschie02 (talk) 10:28, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks al lot! :) -- Hoschie02 (talk) 14:17, March 19, 2014 (UTC)


This is what I can do: I can generate the entire current archived forums list. I can then manually separate the applications/proposals forums from the discussion ones. After that, I can apply the old headers (with the parameter) while keeping the archived forum template that I added when archiving the forums originally. Sound good? --Skire (talk) 19:30, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Tusen takk for the addition of pinned forums. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:03, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

Hold on a sec. Are the new categories going to have their own space in the forum index? Right now they're all still in one archive location within the fora. Also, are proposals and applications only the ones we've had after the category was made? (In other words, would old proposals/applications that were made before the applications/proposals category go into the applications/proposals archive?) If not, this will be a lot easier (there's around 870 archived pages). --Skire (talk) 22:14, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

But do you want to include old applications/proposals in the category, or just the ones made after the category itself? --Skire (talk) 02:20, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Templates Edit

Hey Gunny, I am starting a Wiki on Gaming Consoles and such but I don't know how to use templates or install them. I want to use the all the templates we have here and then modify them for my use there so they aren't exactly like these. Can you help me out by putting those templates from here such as info boxes and nav boxes in to my wiki or showing me how? Thanks! RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 08:14, March 21, 2014 (UTC)

Bot Edit

Gunny, I'm sorry that I didn't get to it, I feel terrible since I promised. Something came up last night that I won't say here, but I absolutely could not get to it. I just got home from work now. Yeah, AWB is made especially for find and replace. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 05:14, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

While I wish I could understand the synergy of boredom and plentiful cigars, I simply cannot. I was at my state's all-state music festival (orchestra) over the last two and a half days, so I haven't had a chance to reply or get the bot going. My apologies. It seems everything worked out pretty well though. I wish I could've been around so you didn't need to use AWB on your main account and flood the RC =P Hope all is well! --Skire (talk) 23:00, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think that's it for AWB (semi-active users, at least). I simply prefer using all AWB functions on my bot account. It keeps my main edit count more... pure, so to speak. --Skire (talk) 23:56, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Admin rights, etc.Edit

Thanks Gunny, means a lot coming from you. The time came and I thought it was the right thing to do for the wiki. If you don't object, could you grant me rollback privileges? I've had rollback ever since I can remember and I can still utilize it in my daily dealings here. --Kastera (talk) 00:29, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, we'll see how the patroller privilege works out. But first, I must read what patrollers actually do :P. --Kastera (talk) 00:38, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
I'm stupidly consistent and archive my talk page when I reach 150 subheadings/subjects. My talk page traffic has slowed down considerably, so who knows the next time I'll reach 150 (and don't get any smart ideas about spamming me to 150 :P). --Kastera (talk) 00:46, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

My wiki Edit

Thank you for the infoboxes! They look great! You can seem one here at... RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 04:01, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Hey gunnyEdit

How do you get bots? I have some on other wikis when im busy, so I am asking you how did you get them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theattackcorgi (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

DB forumEdit

I've seen it. Deleting it is fine by me. We can discuss policy in the wiki discussion; I see no problem there. Red links will be solved soon enough. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:55, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

We still have [Archives] in the Forum navigation bar, which shows up as deleted. What you want to do with that? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:00, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure if Newbie, or vandal. Edit

Hey Gunny, about 4:30pm 3/25/14 we got what appears to be a vandal, Goes by the name Gmodz Tutz, He created the pages and, either this is something that I have not been informed of, or whatever, but just wanted to bring it to your attention, Thanks. --I really need to get a signature (talk) 08:34, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Saw that, thanks for getting that resolved....--I really need to get a signature (talk) 08:40, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

User in chat Edit

We got a user with a sock puppet problem.

First account used:

Second account used:

Third account used:

Fourth account used:

All posting the same wall of spam. I banned each account 3 days except for the fourth which was infinite

UPDATE: All are banned as infinite now due to the amount of accounts. Still getting used to the tools. Sorry.

RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 04:40, March 26, 2014 (UTC)

Check User Edit

Hey Gunny. After discussions in chat and some discrepancies I noticed, would you mind running a Check User on the account we discussed earlier today? I just want to make sure we can verify the shared IP that Clyde identified before we hand out such a significant ban. Thanks. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  00:37, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

I presume this is about Fireburn12. How sure are we that the banned user is him? I don't think he's got the right level of technical knowledge. Agent c (talk) 14:48, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
Just I know with Ellie it was pretty easy to locate. Are the logins at the same day/time? Just IPs can be recycled, but the closer the period between uses, the more likely it is him. Agent c (talk) 22:09, March 28, 2014 (UTC)
Which days was each IP used? Someone (not me) is pushing him to bring this to a vote, and if we cant show that its the same day or something else very close, we might end up losing the ability to use this tool in this way. We gotta be able to show this is bulletproof. Can we publish a sanitised blog showing dates, and the provider the IP traces to? Agent c (talk) 01:58, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
You're right in that time is the key factor... With 2 weeks distant, I wouldn't want to rely on the IP check, especially if its on a connection that is likely to be shared. Same day, maybe even day before/day after I think we can call that a smoking gun... anything else is just circumstantial, and I'd want something more. I don't think in the light of this, this block can stand the light of day and that clyde has jumped the gun. Agent c (talk) 16:38, March 29, 2014 (UTC)


Today I came across something really weird. While i was among other in chat, we noticed the wikia sidebar displayed other people in chat than the people that were talking in our chat window. A bit later, someone told me he sent me a PM, but I didn't receive it. I thought it may have been a small bug or so, and tried to reconnnect, but then i suddenly got in another paralel fallout wikia chat. And i'm not the only one who faced this problem. I have no clue what the problem could be, but i thought it would have been best if i'd notify you of this issue. - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 01:47, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Inactive Edit

Hi, Gunny!

Thanks for checking me up! I'm fine, I've been quite absent, I know, it's my doctorate that has begun and since I was writing a project for my thesis, my intelectual energies, so to speak, had been drained quite a lot. XD

I'll come back eventually, I hope sooner rather than later. But I always check this place out, it's been important for me, all my friends here; I value all that. I'm even creating a blog post to show the community my Fallout fan-fic compilation, Forgotten Names of Despair. Check it out later if you can.

Anyway, good to hear from you! Cheers! --C'n-Frankie -ArroyoTalk 19:11, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Um why was i banned TheDragonsArisen (talk) 02:10, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

Ban Edit

Aha, it's no problem. I just now noticed, no harm done :) --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 02:28, March 31, 2014 (UTC)


Great! Just waiting on Chad (or anyone for this matter) to write out a short bio, and I will have the affiliation added in a heartbeat. My logo is taking a bit longer than I originally had hoped it would take, so I will send you a message the moment that comes into my possession. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 02:42, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure how long the official banner will take, so I am just going to give you a crappy prototype I threw together for now: link!. I will update you when the better one is released. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 16:28, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Edit summariesEdit

Could you kindly inform User:Jspoelstra that he should be leaving summaries as to what he is changing on pages, regardless of how much trust he has built up on the wiki? His reasoning is he thinks it takes too long to leave a summary and has too much to do. I confronted him about it and he almost seemed to ignore what I had suggested. I am asking if you would say something to him, for you being around longer than I, have more "oomf" in these situations. --TheItalianMafia (talk) 15:33, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

How you change the name of the wiki's chat room Edit

Greetings Gunny. I'm a admin in Killzone Wiki and I'm just wondering how you change the chat room's name. Similar to Fallout wiki's chat when it says Welcome to the Wasteland. --Fortu (talk) 20:14, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

Oh thank you Gunny, your info was very helpful! --Fortu (talk) 20:14, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

I understand that he is a Bureaucrat, but I feel that other people, other than the Admins, should be able to know what edits are being made on pages. Being a community we should all be informed as to what is going on, and by him not adding at least a quick summary ("edited wiki link" for example) is depraving the rest of the community from what is being changed on that page. --TheItalianMafia (talk) 04:27, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

As much as I do not agree that edit summaries should be used 100% of the time, you do have to give the guy credit seeing as in how using edit summaries as often as possible is detailed in our user conduct guidelines. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 05:08, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Chat script Edit

I am pleased to announce that I have finally gotten the chat script to work. If you could send me over those icons you were talking about. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 17:26, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

I admit to having no photo editing skills whatsoever, so I will not volunteer myself. However, if you or someone else makes them, we'll have to make sure they are sized at about 20 X 20. There is one drawback to the script that I'm sure I can fix, but I need to know where the code exists that sets the yellow star for extra right users. The script appears to paste the icon over the existing yellow star. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 09:02, April 16, 2014 (UTC)
Ah. I was an idiot and trying to view the source for the chat. When I get home I'll take care of it. -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 20:20, April 16, 2014 (UTC)

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