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October 13, 2011
  • I live in Boston, MA
  • My occupation is Student
  • I am Male
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Moderator Edit

Yeah, I've noticed that trend lately as well. However I still think the title "Moderator" applies since they bear the rights of both chat moderators and patrollers, and the combination of the two rights sets makes for a unique condition that I think is important to distinguish. I'm doing ok, school has me very busy right now. I am taking Organic Chemistry two and Microbiology consecutively and those two classes eat a large amount of my time. I've also started talking with someone over long distance, and that takes a lot of my time as well. I need to start editing more, probably going to do some overhaul stuff with the bug charts soon. ---bleep196- (talk) 18:50, March 14, 2014 (UTC)

Forum Invitation Edit

After its creation five days ago, Forum:Military conflict policy brainstorming is about to wrap up and I feel it could use some more public attention.

As one of the active participants on the Fallout Wiki:Military conflicts project, I feel it necessary to bring this forum to your attention in order to generate a better result.

I hope you can find the time to put in your input. If not, then I understand completely. Thanks for reading, --The Ever Ruler (talk) 21:47, March 15, 2014 (UTC)


They're all set up, save for creating the actual archived forums and the categories for them. I'm not sure if we can use a bot to move the archived forums from the existing archive to the new ones, since we'll have to go into page history and determine which forum they originally came from (and probably check to see if that was the correct one to begin with). We'll probably have to do these by hand, there are about 900 or so of them, but you're welcome to help with that when everything's ready. I'm just tweaking the forum intro for the archived forums now. Probably be ready to start moving them tomorrow. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 01:24, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

All the changes to the forums, forum templates and new categories are done. We'll need to start moving the archived forums back to the proper categories. I will write up a forum on the DB with instructions so everyone knows how to do this correctly and hope to get some help. Be advised: there are some empty categories. Eventually, all the archived categories will be populated, but the "pinned" forum categories will not be until we "pin" some forums. Please do not delete any of these empty categories, I'd rather have them set up now and ready for content than have to remember how to set them up later on when we actually "pin" something. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 15:47, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
Do you think AWB can run over that archived forum cat, find the old forum header templates and add them back to the pages with the additional |archived parameter? I don't want the archived forum template removed from the threads, though, so you can't just revert the edit. Either that or you do two runs: One to revert and one to add the archived forum template back in. Possible? The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 16:49, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan. I'm probably gonna do a couple by hand in each category just to make sure nothing unexpected comes up. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 20:24, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

(The new categories will not be listed as forums on the forum index. They will have their own forum lists (those are already made) that are linked from the bottom of their parent forum. For example: Forum:Archived Wiki discussion will only be linked to from the bottom of Forum:Wiki discussion. All you need to do is put the old forumheader template back, and add the |archived parameter to it. Leave the {{Archivedforum}} template in place. Once everything's moved, we'll remove the old archive category from that template. At some point, after we add the forumheader templates back, we can then go through and make sure things like applications are in the correct archive. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 00:48, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I got bored and am almost through moving all applications and votes to Forum:Archived Wiki proposals and applications. When I'm done everything left should go to Forum:Archived Wiki discussion. Everything is all still in [[:Category:Forum archives]], so you're going to have to configure your bot to check to see if it's also in Category:Archived Wiki proposals and applications or not. If it's already in Category:Archived Wiki proposals and applications, have the bot skip it. I probably just made the job a lot harder, but, like I said, I was bored and had a lot of cigar left. Sorry. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 02:29, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
I ran awb and made the changes. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 02:48, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
Eh. No worries. I really needed to set AWB up to use here anyways. I ended up giving myself a bot flag to finish so I didn't slay rc too much. If I need to do something like this again, I'm just going to create a bot account. As an aside, I set up the AWB white list page. Right now, I've got your bot flagged as a bot and your main account as human. You'll be able to use AWB on both accounts, but only the bot will be able to use the autosave function. If you need this changed, you can access that page from the Help:Bots page. Anyone who wants to use AWB, either as a human or a bot must be listed on that page. Did I miss anyone? The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 23:51, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

Jack and DianeEdit

what was wrong with my post you deleted?

'd like to know what was wrong with the posting i made '"Jack & Diane" is a 1982 hit song written and performed by American singer-songwriter, John Mellencamp' since there is already a reference to another song on there! Vault Kid 3 (talk) 03:00, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re: !Edit

Don't worry; I'll still be around here the same amount I have been (I know that's not saying much), but as a Patroller-ish instead. I wasn't using my admin tools as often as an admin should, so I rescinded the privileges. See you around, Kastera (talk) 02:27, March 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Birthday Edit

Thank you my friend :D --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 23:37, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Things Edit

Things are alright, I guess. Been a little hectic in real life. I actually have been enjoying my powers, so far. Although, gunny blames me for Ryan getting accidentally banned earlier lol. Thanks for all of the help over the years. Paladin117>>iff bored; 02:49, March 31, 2014 (UTC)


My "hate" or resentment comes from the fact that you and 2 others tried to harm the rights of a valued user. I see you are now misusing chat logs. That fact that you make this public makes yourself look bad, we have Private Messaging for a reason, Skire. Do not act high and mighty with me, your rights are not bothering me. In chat I am free to say that I do not care for you. There was no name calling, nor was there threats. My comments on that forum, by the way, was just, as you and the 2 others have been implementing new and drastic rules around this wiki to better yourselves. Now that that has been said, I will leave you with this: Anything else that is to be said to me is to be said in Public Chat, anymore Talk Page messages will go unanswered, and Chat logs are not there for your "Public Use". This is something you should know from a previous users use of them. Thank you. Have a nice day. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 22:52, April 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Question Edit

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Sorry about not responding Edit

Sorry about not responding to your invitation in December. I have been on hiatus lately due to work and personal reasons, and just now saw it. @_@

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Featured articlesEdit

I trust you made a good selection. But you've now done only part of it, and I was expecting you'd also create the new articles themselves. Each selected article needs to be rewritten for use as the featured article. That's still a lot of work, more than selecting it. Are you still going to do that? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:42, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Anon IP Edit

Hello fellow administrator! I'd like to implement a script from the Open Source Wiki that allows the Wikia Contributor designation to be replaced with their IP address on forums, recent changes, etc. This would be set so that only administrators would have this script enabled, and I'd like feedback to see if this is something we should implement. Leave your thoughts on my talkpage. Thanks! --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 05:14, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Basically the function would serve as no more than a convenience. -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 19:33, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
I would have no problem with it. I'll wait for a couple of the other admins to get back to me and I'll see what Gunny thinks about it :) --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 02:02, April 8, 2014 (UTC)


I will be getting to work tonight, then! Just remember that I do not have much free-time to spare anymore, though. But I can probably manage a page every month or so until my activity picks up again. Just send me a page you would really like to be re-written at the beginning of each month, and I will throw whatever time I can at it. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 19:56, April 7, 2014 (UTC)


It is difficult to ascertain a 'need' for chatmods, and I think lapses in moderation are going to happen whether we have 4 mods or 40. I can tell you though, it wasn't until Emiko that I honestly felt happy with the amount of mods. Now I agree with you, it can't be allowed to become based on a lack bad behaviour as opposed to actually deserving and having a need for the rights. Not getting yourself banned isn't much of an achievement in my book. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  01:39, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Casserole Edit

Yeah, I don't know either. I double checked the GECK and the Vault to be sure. What makes it especially odd is the anon's first edits to the wiki are reverting Crazy Sam and then reverting the people that revert him/her. Too weird. Paladin117>>iff bored; 02:39, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

FA rewritesEdit

I know it's hard work. Writing new content is one of the toughest things to do around here, but also one of the most important things and if you succeed there's a lot of reward for the wiki and yourself. Hope you can keep it going. Every day/week and few pages and slowly we'll get there, right? Having some help should also speed up things a little. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:52, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite Edit

I apologize for the lateness of my response, but I've been extremely busy irl as of late and don't think I can commit to overhauling articles at this moment in time. I really appreciate that you thought enough of me to offer though. ;) Enclavesymbol 19:51, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

SRY! lol its a work in progress. I will eliminate broken links as I go and preform a general cleanup as I make progress and grow a better understanding of this whole "wikitiquete" thing. Also im from boston too. nice to know someone from homes got my back ;P Nmeis (talk) 17:17, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

SM vaultEdit

Only the 17 pre-War money is notable. The other 2 is all random. For example, I only found one fixed Stealth Boy in the gun cabinet. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:36, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

I made a slight mistake and had the wrong med box (outside the vault). There should be 10 stimpaks in the first aid box. Also checked it in the game and had 10 and 9. In the gun cabinet you have no fixed stealth boys, but there are sierra madre armors, which is notable. Still need to do some testing. Get back to you. Bedtime. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:54, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
I checked it. There are garanteed a few Sierra Madre armors and a high total amount of chems/healing items in the first aid box. No Stealth Boys. I added it to the page again. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:22, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

( I agree with that. I actually today was second guessing the notable loot template with the 5 item limit again. I don't feel a notable loot section can really clutter a page. People are always interested in that and can better see it immediately and could miss that right hand -More- sign. Look at some bugs sections, they're often way larger then the NL while less important. 18:02, April 24, 2014 (UTC) Jspoel Speech Jspoel

Eight sounds better to me. And bug sections can become large as you see. Below that still goes the gallery which can be easily be missed. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:22, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
You missed a <!-- in the template, which showed on pages at the bottom of the notable content section. I added it and it looks all good now. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:05, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Calculus Edit

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If you have some time, meet up with me in it. Dead Gunner&#039;s SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 19:51, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Already in it. Dead Gunner&#039;s SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 23:09, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, wouldn't have been able to do it if you didn't do the endorsement. Dead Gunner&#039;s SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 23:57, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

most asinine thing Edit

nope. the most asinine thing is the shindler's list refrence on tenpenny

RE: Novac Edit

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Bot workEdit

Hey SD, is your bot in working order? If it is, could you please have it run on the pages listed here and here, and switch the respective links to point to Experience Points instead? I've started fixing those redirects but figured that kinda chore was better suited for an automated script.
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A call for amends? Edit

Hey Skire, I saw you were on through Recent activity and thought maybe now would be a good time to say this. I am looking to give you an apology for the last few months and my response to you in the forum. My words were harsh and uncalled for towards you and the two other users. I was too caught up in Wiki politics and felt like everything was falling apart here. My response to words I said in chat months ago were no better. I was mainly bitter over my request. I have known you since I joined this wiki and I don't know what got into me to be honest. I am hoping we can work together and build up our remaining ties for future endeavors. You don't need to respond to this, but if you feel the need I am in chat or you can leave me a TP message. Thank you. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 16:33, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

High expectations are good for rights holders. I can see where what I said may not help my request for extra rights, and I fully agree. No apology necessary, just glad we can move on and work together once again! :) RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 00:28, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Unexplained removal Edit

Was part of the job to standardize the pages (as set in this edit before ) I guess Is it okay if I undo your undo? - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 23:11, May 13, 2014 (UTC)


is there a chat to go to helppppp

help please Edit

skryie cant u help with getting all the armor in shalebridge?


Leons wiki block was an error on my part clicking the wrong button. However, a block war is no different to an edit war, two special rights users doing and undoing an action. Agent c (talk) 04:43, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Chat banEdit

Hm, not sure where to put my input, so I'll do it here.

It is a strange ban. It has to be admitted that both sides might have made small mistakes, which caused that issue to happen. Perhaps Leon shouldn't be banned, although there could've been a warning to either stop that discussion (if someone is offended by that topic), or have been given a warning, at least. To seal the matter, we should just forget this happened, but next time a warning (or a kick) must be given, else the ban is too early to be given. That is all. Energy X 19:15, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Inquiry Edit

I have been independently investigating the matter as well since last night. Please let me know if you need another opinion. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  19:26, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

I will be off from work later today, and will gladly weigh in. -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 19:32, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
A good way to discuss this may be in chat. I can offer the user of the IRC over at the Koth Wiki. Perhaps later this evening, if it works for you and Energy X we can hash it out in there. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 21:03, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Chat incident. Edit

Go for it. Like I said, I want no part of it. I'll just wait for someone to put up something to make sure I lose my rights too. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 19:42, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

But what you decide ultimately decides my fate for my rights, right? RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 21:22, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
We don't know what will decide what. In the meantime, just take it easy. We just want to make sure we understand what happened. -TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 21:26, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Edit

I was mis-informed by The Gunslinger on this matter. Thank you for this info. What do you need, boss? (talk) 19:05, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

You were NOT misinformed by me. You asked who was like an admin and I said Bureaucrats. I had no idea you were talking about who could endorse you. And I believe Bcrats can endorse you as Chad endorsed mine. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 19:27, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Bureaucrats differ from regular administrators in that bureaucrats can give and revoke other people's administrative powers.

Bureaucrats are by definition administrators. Agent c (talk) 21:07, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what to say Danny, the definition is right there. "Differ from other administrators". We cannot differ from other administrators if we are not implicitly administrators.... otherwise the statement is an absurdity. Agent c (talk) 20:54, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

That is the section on removing powers. Bureaucrats differ from regular administrators... How can I differ from a regular administrator if I am not an administrator? Agent c (talk) 21:29, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

And it is clear that bureaucrats aren't regular administrators.

In which case we are administrators, with all that goes with it. There is a lot of myth and mysticism about the Administrator position. It is, and always has been, a special administrator position. It cannot be a special administrator position if it isn't an administrator position. That would be like arguing the speaker of the house isn't a congressman because he took on an additional title. Agent c (talk) 21:36, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Well, shall you tell the speaker that his position of speaker means he no longer holds the position of Congressman too, or do you want me to do it?

A Bureaucrat holds both positions. As they do also hold the position of Chat Moderator, Moderator, and Patroller. As an Admin, you also hold the positions of Moderator, Chat Moderator, and Patroller.

Take for example, the following:

Moderators have a wide discretion relating to the issuing of warnings and bans which infringe on these rules.

— Chat Rules

Apparently "Chat Moderators" "Administrators" and "Bureaucrats" do not have wide discretion?

These are just guidelines for usual cases. Blocks and their duration are generally up to the discretion of Nukapedia's administrators and chat moderators.

But not Bureaucrats or full moderators?

Administrators and chat moderators use their discretion when applying these rules, and understanding of the rules depends on the moderator's perception of the rules

So everyone who does not hold the position of "moderator" is now bound by what a "moderator" interprets the rules to be?

Particular exceptions may be granted by specific administrator or chat moderator approval

So "Moderators" get to decide what the rule means, but "Administrators" and "chat moderators" only can create exceptions... and not "moderators"?

Moderators are reminded that they have the freedom to deal with situations with a less firm hand if required...

Again, Moderators, but noone else?

The chat is moderated by our active administrators, moderators, and chat-moderators; a list of whom can be here.

Burecreats are no longer moderating chat? I've not even completed going through this policy, but I think my point is clear.

If the policies were consistent on the use of a title to exclude all others, your argument might have merit - but only if the word "regular" was missing in the description of Bureaucrat. If a Bureaucrat differs from a "regular administrator" then he must by definition, also be an administrator for all purposes where "administrator" applies.

As it stands, the policies do not, and have not, ever discriminated upwardly in that fashion. A person at a "Higher" rights level by implication is also every position inclusive in that position... Else the policies become an absurdity. Agent c (talk) 21:59, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

In each one of these cases Danny, specific named positions are called. The most damming being the last one... You are by implication also saying that Bureaucrats cannot moderate chat as each other role with Chat Moderation powers is specifically named - if anything that proves that in our rules Bureaucrats are seen as little more than administrators with an extra tool - an argument I am sure you have made in the past.

In Legislative interpretation, there is a thing called the golden rule. Its simple, you read everything as written, unless its absurd, and then you read it in a way that isn't absurd. Our rules only make sense if they are read in line at least in the golden rule (there are more wider, purposive approaches) - that the absurdities of other positions not being included when a different, inclusive position is named should be read to include other positions which include that position. Agent c (talk) 22:38, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

My sigEdit

I was so taken with the Killap special encounter image I had to do something with it. The encounter is now on my userpage and Darth Vader is my talkpage signature now. Show who's boss around here ;) and fits the slight mystery around my person. Not sure I'll keep this one though. Was a spontaneous change. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:16, June 2, 2014 (UTC)


Okay, thanks! :) - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 00:29, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re: CommitteeEdit

Hey Danny. I relayed Ryan and I's position to both Chad and Gunny some time ago. I was unable to get in contact with Jakov before some personal issues for me took hold, so I can only assume that his views are unchanged from what he conveyed on your talk page. If the committee requires a majority, then that was achieved and the information relayed regardless of Jakov's position as Ryan and I had agreed on a recommendation. If consensus is required, that did not occur. Either way, my assumption was that both Chad and Gunny were not going to enforce our decision even if we had reached a consensus to take action, based on our conversation. I had assumed that they would make some form of public announcement to belay any confusion. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  19:02, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Question Edit

I've seen your views on whether BCs are admins or not. In spite of what the policy clearly states, you obviously feel we are not. I've got a question for you: Are you a chat moderator? Are you a Patroller? Obviously, you will answer no. But I assume you feel that you still hold the rights that chat moderators and patrollers hold. Am I correct there? The question of whether BCs are admins or not is not really a question of whether we hold the rights they do, as we do, and also chat moderator and patroller and revert, just like you do. It's a question of semantics. If I take you correctly you define us as bureaucrats because that is the "title" we hold. We do not, in your opinion, also hold the title of admin, er go, we can't endorse, since only admins can.

I'll offer you two different takes on this. One, take a quick look at the userlist. You'll see that we all, you, me, J, chad, Pally, Burrs, we all have the "sysop" label. Now, J, Chad, Clyde and I also have bureaucrat. As Chad recently stated, none of us stopped being sysops when we got bc. Now, I understand that applies to the rights and tools we have, but I'll get back to that in a second. The second take is like I said above. Our very own admin page defines us as admins. Admins that are "irregular" in that we also have additional rights. Says so right at the top of the page. So, as far as I can tell, both from a rights title standpoint, and from a policy standpoint, we're all admins/sysops.

But here's where I again argue it's semantics. What is being discussed is taking away one of our rights. The right we hold as sysops/admins to endorse. Since it's one of our rights we're talking about here, I reckon the correct way to interpret if we're admins or not is do we have the admin box ticked in our user rights logs. We do. The logic you're following would be akin to me asking you not to use your chat moderator, patroller or revert rights, since you do not hold any of those "titles". Now, remember, I have no problem at all with not endorsing chat mod applicants. But that is my choice. I prefer not to do it for my own personal reasons. That's me though. Just because I choose to do that doesn't mean I'm at all comfortable with the community taking away one of the rights I've worked hard to get. Does anyone want to see a vote on whether admins will be allowed to continue to moderate chat? I didn't think so. I'd appreciate it if you consider my points. I understand how you, personally, feel, but you've got to understand that just because that's how you interpret the issue doesn't mean that either everyone else does, or that it's necessarily correct. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 01:37, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Of course we'll respect what the community passes. It would worry me greatly if people thought we wouldn't. As for the reductio ad absurdum, I thought that was an inspired use of the tactic. Most people seem to use it incorrectly. I enjoy it's proper usage, but you don't want to always go to it. In this case, it works for me because admins not moderating chat is absurd. People usually construct straw man arguments instead of proper argumentum ad absurdum. While there are differences in BCs not endorsing chat mods, and admins not moderating chat, comparing the two does not seem to me to be a logical fallacy, eg a straw man. Anyways, I enjoyed the discussion, even if we disagree. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 20:13, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Tense Edit

I discussed the matter with both Gunny and Chad regarding the tense of the Van Buren quest articles. The first sentence of all Van Buren articles sets the tense as being in past tense "Use Think Tank for Data was going to be a quest in Van Buren, the canceled Fallout 3 by Black Isle Studios". There cannot be a present tense for something that does not exist such as Van Buren. Saying that a quest is located somewhere "It is located in Boulder." suggests the existence of the game when there is none. Ideally, and what I am going to ask bears to do with his bot, the second part of "Use Think Tank for Data was going to be a quest in Van Buren, the canceled Fallout 3 by Black Isle Studios. It is located in Boulder." should read something like "It was meant to be located in..." or It was to be located in..." As most Van buren quest pages have this disagreement. Further complicating this issue are the "canceled" Van Buren quests that do their own thing. Additionally, FW:EDIT says "generally" which is not the same as always. Present tense, for articles for a cancelled games shouldn't be used as, again, it implies the idea that the game actually exists as a finished product. Richie9999 (talk) 02:02, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

No, what I'm suggesting is just changing the second part of the opening bit "It is located in..." to "It was meant to be located in..." or "It was to be located in...". I'm striving for consistency in the first blurb that changes tense with the second sentence (when it is included). No changes at all to text from teh design docs. Richie9999 (talk) 02:30, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
Just the lead sections. And then there's the work I was doing with turning the Source section on VB quest articles into a references section while adding an inline citation with the source link at the end of a link section. These are both things I can do on my own, however, a bot would greatly simplify the process.Richie9999 (talk) 02:43, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
If you need an idea of what I was doing in regards to the sources/references you can see the change here.Richie9999 (talk) 03:05, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

A question Edit

May I request your presence in the chat for a moment? Thanks. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 04:13, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Oversized booksEdit

Yes, those 3 books are oversized. I checked them all and will upload the images of them soon. A few months, then I plan to reach 200k edits. We'll have a small party at 250k I think, in line with the achievements. And a quarter of a million sounds better than 200k right? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:06, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

And yes, I'm enjoying the World Cup. It's not just our match against Spain, but most matches are enjoyable to watch thus far. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:15, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Avatar Edit

Just dropped by to say I absolutely love you avatar. Damn I feel like playing Resident Evil now :( - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 23:54, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Chat bansEdit

You mean how they're both year longs? I did that because they're a raid and raids never return and never intended to follow the rules anyway. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 03:13, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Didn't think you'd be picking faults, just thought you thought I made a mistake. ha, thanks. I love raids, shame there were only two. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 03:23, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Expert consultation Edit

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There is a literal difference between resigning and retiring, for the record. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 20:03, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

That's not to say you're wrong to revert me. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 20:13, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
He's around in the same way Dr. Kelso was puttering around in the coffee shop in scrubs after he retired. Additionally, retiring is the wording that Gunny is using as opposed to resigning. Richie9999 (talk) 21:31, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Dinner BellEdit

I've been staring at it for a time not finding it, and then I got the idea to select the text and search for possible differences in spaces used. That way I found out that after the last "." a space was added. But indeed hard to spott. - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 08:00, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Request for Ban Removal Edit

I was banned two years ago for trolling in the chat by spamming the Rick Astly song "Never Gonna Give You Up" and making multiple account to continue that childish charade. I was supposed to be banned for about a week but i never got my account back. I admit i was childish back then, but I have matured over the past couple years and therefore i respectfully request to have my account back. 18:56, July 24, 2014 (UTC) Gusaber

Width welcome messageEdit

Well, initially my suggestion was a fixed width and the columns were closer then to eachother compared after you added a percentage width. I felt after you did that, the columns were too far apart again. So I went back I chose an inbetween solution. Closer again but not as close as the other suggestions. Personally I don't mind the space it has now between the third column and the Vault Boy, and with the 26% the columns are just a tad too far apart I think. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:02, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

I don't have anything squeezed downward. Not nearly. Do you have a small screen or something? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:21, August 16, 2014 (UTC)


Ah, just remiding you about the Hole's comment. Rex vs. Dogmeat, just place it here below. Energy X 10:29, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Well, could be slightly expanded, but I won't complain too much. Energy X 15:30, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Need your bot, budEdit

Can you get your bot to change all instances of "Take revenge on Gizmo" to "Stop Gizmo"? Cheers. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 17:29, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Cheers. Yeah, I knew it was just stranglers but the "what links here" page had around 80 links and most of the ones I viewed didn't "Link here" so I thought it would just be easier if I let a bot do the hard work XD. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 20:31, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

re: Chinese IWEdit

Alright, understood, I'll check if its translated right. --Cassie.Y MikuPink534629280947623198Talk 02:07, October 10, 2014 (UTC)


Yeah, I can speak both Cantonese chinese and Mandarin chinese however I can only write a little.--吉野 Cassie MikuPink534629280947623198Talk 00:15, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad that I can meet you too :), but I don't have Chinese keyboard right now, sorry about that. --吉野 Cassie MikuPink534629280947623198Talk 22:22, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Salient Green Edit

Dev confirmation is required for weapons, not standard behind the scenes content. Our standards call for "direct visual or textual correlations" Salient green makes no sense word wise as the word Salient has nothing to do with plant matter. Additionally, within the context of a dlc that drops references to old science fiction movies all the time (see mobius and Forbidden planet and Plan 9 From Outer Space). As the reference it obvious it fits the criteria for direct visual or textual correlation. The purpose of Salient Green doesn't enter into it. If we require developer confirmation for all behind the scenes sections then we lose everything for the first two fallouts, such as the Police Call Box, the robot in Klamath referencing 2001 A Space Oddyssey, The Blues Brothers and Big Trouble in Little China references and more. These are perhaps less obvious than Salient Green yet they stay. In accordance with policy, Salient Green being a reference to Soylent Green quite correct. Richie9999 (talk) 03:58, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Salient Green Edit

In regards to the conflict on the page, proper channels were followed, consensus, as observed on the talk page, seemed to have been reached (as much as it ever is on this wiki). The item was discussed, by all parties it was seen as something that was likely a reference. Garoux's main issue from what I read, (correct me if I'm horribly mistaken) seemed to arise from the fact that he could not get a developer to verify it as correct and that the use of the item was nothing like the use of Salient Green in the film. To the first point, I repeatedly pointed out that as policy stands, a developer confirmation is irrelevant and unnecessary. To the argument that the items use does not mirror that of the item in the film I also argue that it is irrelevant as the item's name is what matters. All we call for is direct visual or textual correlation. There is as much correlation for Salient Green as there is for the Blues Brothers quote in Fallout 2, or Mobius' reference to Plan 9 From Outer space. On its own, as pointed out, Most Important Green or any of the other definitions for "Salient" do not make any sense in there. Upon consensus being achieved, the edit was restored, as per policy and was then reverted with a message regarding it not on the talk page of the article where it should be but on my talk page. The use of "argumentum ad populum" by Garoux is farcical as you cannot apply that to just one item selectively but must be applied to everything on the wiki if that is one of the arguments being used to opposed the inclusion of the reference largely invalidating most behind the scenes references in all games prior to Fallout: New Vegas. Stating that all editors must be able to verify the information requires all editors to have the same pop culture background knowledge.

As far as forums go, an edit war regarding Salient Green belongs on that articles talk page. If Garoux wishes to propose a new policy he is, as I stated multiple times, more than welcome to do so.

You say you find my conduct disappointing so I ask, what would you have done in my situation? Would you have allowed an argument to go on on the talk page until all editors there agreed (despite the fact that all agreed it was likely a reference) for days or more? Would you have not permitted content to be included on the wiki? Would you have disagreed with the standing policies that are in place? Would you have restored the content once all but one dissenter agreed it belonged there or would you have held the content due to the opinions and thoughts of one voice? Would you have permitted the beginning of a new edit war over the same material or would you too have locked the page? To me it seemed it was going in circles and nothing short of a developer saying definitively one way or the other would have ended it. I would like to know as I am curious about how you would have handled the situation had it been handed to you.

If you feel strongly that the page should not be locked, feel free to unlock it, I will not stop you. If you wish to remove the information that was initially removed because Garoux found issue with it due to the fact that he could not get a developer to confirm it (something that again, was never required) I only ask that you have a reason that has not been discussed to death, a reason that in using does not serve to invalidate existing behind the scenes content elsewhere if applied there as well. However, I cannot say with certainty that others will not oppose you, should you choose to take those actions.

Richie9999 (talk) 19:13, November 27, 2014 (UTC)

Policy was interpreted the same way it always has. In regards to the edit war it was followed properly. In regards to textual correlation it was followed according to the precedent that has been set forth through past use of the policy. The item was removed due to Garoux not being able to acquire a developer confirmation which itself serves to circumvent the established policy. Richie9999 (talk) 21:56, November 27, 2014 (UTC)


Yes, it's been a while. I promised you 11 months ago I would take a seat in the board, so count me in! There's a 6 hour difference between here and the States, so best time for a meeting is around 12/1 o'clock here (6/7 o'clock in the States). Weekends should be more convenient though. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:22, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Don't we have 3 to be selected for NotY and 2 more by the board? I'm a bit confused by the 4 you mention in your blog. Who else beside me and you are board members? (mail me if it's confidential). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:41, December 14, 2014 (UTC)
In my humble opinion, seven is far too many. Already thought that last year. Five is mooore than enough. And often I've seen it just three... But it's your call. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:46, December 15, 2014 (UTC)
Five it is then. Can it be anyone who is not on the nominee list? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 02:00, December 15, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Edit

My schedule right now is pretty packed because I'm trying to get ready for finals and have to get the house ready for guests coming soon. I'm not sure I'll be able to keep to any scheduled meetings for this. Great Mara (talk) 02:22, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

NotY Board Edit

It would be an honor. I accept! Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 22:17, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

RE: NotY board Edit

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I would be honored to be on the board. Just let me know when the meeting(s) will be a day beforehand, and what format they will be in (forum? talkpage? chat?), so I will have notice. I can only be on the internet till about 5:00PM USA central time, so no midnight meetings. =P Leea (talk) 23:08, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

Alrighty then. Could I please have a link to the Chinese Fallout wiki for my future use? Leea (talk) 12:22, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Garoux's behavior Edit

Garoux is far out of line and has been for some time. Were this anyone but Garoux the user would have been banned long ago. The history of interactions between both him and Agent c speaks for itself. One exchange like the two of them have had during the past year would have gotten any other user banned, but because it was Garoux it was ignored, and people looked the other way. We cannot make exceptions for users here just because they were once admins, or are regular users. The rules exist for all users not for us to selectively apply them as we see fit. The final straw was Garoux's talk page message to Agent c earlier today, which can be found on Agent c's talk page archive #12. The final exchange serves as rather apparent bait directed at a person who had already expressed that the topic should be discussed in the relevant space, not on personal talk pages. This comes after BOTH of them were told to stop their bickering, as pointed out in my talk page message to Garoux regarding his ban. I do not ban lightly, however, I felt the ban was warranted. The accumulative actions of Garoux speak to a history of baiting and insulting Agent c. The only reason a ban has not been instated prior to this is because Agent c wants to avoid appearing biased and ALL other admins including the two of us have been content to look the other way. Today was the straw that broke the camel's back. Insulting, harassing and instigating conflicts with other users cannot be permitted, it is a violation of our wiki's policies. Richie9999 (talk) 04:29, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Furthermore the only farce I see is the amount of inaction exhibited by the admin team in regards to the conflict and drama between those two that has been going on far too long. It seems rather apparent to me mediation between the two would not achieve much and if there was a chance for it to work the time has long since passed. Why it was not done sooner I cannot say, but enough is enough. This drama between those two cannot be permitted anymore. This is a wiki, not a soap opera. Richie9999 (talk) 04:35, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
The insult is the jab directed at Chad in the final talk page message. Insulting other users was only ONE of my ban reasons. In that was also "Starting and being involved in user conflicts (he's started and been engaged in many of those), as well as harassing other users." In my book his behavior towards Agent c over the course of this past year most definitely constitutes harassment. The fact that none of this was addressed by anyone on the admin team in any way PRIOR to my talk page message to the both of them November 24th is a travesty. Richie9999 (talk) 04:40, December 22, 2014 (UTC)
It shouldn't be surprising that Garoux was the one banned. With this latest conflict that, as I pointed out, was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back, Agent c reiterated that the discussion should take place in the appropriate forum not talk pages.

Please place any comments you have in the relevant forum and and where you have a point on topic. As for your other comments, I shalln't be rising to your bait, I don't need to answer your questions to make sense to the comment, it makes sense as it is. Agent c (talk) 18:41, December 21, 2014 (UTC)

In keeping with the earlier warning, that was the appropriate response. Continuing on, however, was not. You will note, that nonetheless I still issued Agent c with another warning, which, while largely symbolic in nature, I hope carries with it the very clear indication that this sort of behavior is not to be tolerated. Richie9999 (talk) 04:44, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

NotY meetingEdit

Today from 22:30 local time is ok for me. Tomorrow and the day after that I'm large available, watching darts mostly (PDC World Championship). Any time up till 1 o'clock at night (6 or so with you) is good then. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:51, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Well, the best time for me would be from 6:00AM to 8:00AM USA Central Time or so. Its more or less guaranteed that I'll be on the internet then, and thus wikis, at that time span. There's a lot less chance for me to be on, say, 6:00 at night, when I'm busy with other non-internet stuff. Leea (talk) 23:08, December 22, 2014 (UTC)

Between 1pm and as late as 3am only on weekdays, 5pm to as late as 11pm on Saturday, and 5pm to as late as 3am on Sunday all of this USA Eastern Time. Like I said before, my schedule is quite open :p --The Ever Ruler (talk) 05:11, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

That means 0:00 for me, on the threshold between 26 and 27 December right? Then I can make it. Although it may be a 6 hour difference, then it will be 01:00 for me, which I can just manage. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:26, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

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Eh, no. Dad checks his email at that time and surfs the net, from about 5:45PM to a little after 8PM Central time. Getting him off the computer at that time would be, well, it would be easier to get past the Secret Service and see the President of the United State's personal quarters. Sorry about that. =( Leea (talk) 13:02, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe with the next Fallout I'll get to know you better Edit

SaintPain Holiday
You have been given Best wishes in a world of Pain.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
I might not be here so much but I do still care & look forward to the next Fallout. SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help." 13:27, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a happy new yearEdit

I would like to use the Christmas-wishes-tradition to thank those around me who kept this wiki and daily life more fun for me during the past year. Everything just seems so normal and evident that we are here almost every day, yet it's very worthwhile to consider for a moment how wonderful it is to have all of you around me, making editing and being on chat a lot more enjoyable. I would also like to use this opportunity to wish a happy and healthy new year for you and everyone around you, with perseverance in tough times, but most of all, with wonderful moments among enjoyable friends and family. Merry Christmas, and a very happy new year in which all your wishes may come true! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 18:14, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

NotY Board Absence Edit

My apologies for missing the board. Checking Wikia somehow managed to skip my mind over the last few days. I hadn't been home in 6 months and got a little carried away. Let me know if there is anything I can do. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 03:59, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Heh. Alrighty. I'll be checking my messages. Feel free to Skype the message to me if it doesn't seem like I'm on here. Thank you! Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 04:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Bot job Edit

Hey Bud, I have a small job for your bot if you're interested. Could you have your bot go through the New Vegas dialog files an add a number at the end of each response? See what I did here as a guide. Thanks :).
Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 16:56, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks anyway. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 19:39, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Second board meetingEdit

I can make it that time. But I don't see messages asking others of the board to be there and it is short notice. What are your plans, how do you expect to get them in chat tomorrow. And will it be for the final decision or an inbetween talk about? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:52, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

John SmithEdit

I'm already part of it ;). If you want I can make the article a bit more detailed on the longer term, like I did with the Herbert Hoover and the Franklin D. Roosevelt page, but now I just uploaded it during a short break from studying (got exams incoming next month). - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 02:30, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

I don't know that number Edit

I'm not good with the way Wiki does time slots. I would loose out on the million-dollar question if it was "What is 2300UTC time?" So, what is it? Leea (talk) 12:49, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

I can spare another hour. Btw, you have Agent c as a substitute if someone can't make it at the last hour. I talked it over with him by e-mail. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:43, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
Although that was for the 23:00 Greenwich time. Not sure if he's ok with 24:00. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:44, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
Are we still on for today? Leaa already left (you didn't let her know it was postponed?). Ever Ruler and I are waiting. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:22, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Board awardEdit

You had me worried; I thought for a moment that I had won Nukapedian of the Year, and we both know that I don't deserve that. Still, thanks for the late-not-never gift! Cheers, Kastera (talk) 03:08, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Bad timing Edit

I was there for about 40 minutes or so, from 5:20PM to about 5:55, and I idle chatted with Ever for that amount of time. Why didn't you let me know earlier in the day that you had postponed the meeting? It would have saved me the trouble, time, and annoyance of Ever and me being told that after a half hour of me waiting in Chinese Fallout chat the meeting would be held at 6:00PM, the time that I simply cannot be here. Why did you do that to me? Leea (talk) 12:39, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

Wrong location Edit

What is wrong with this location? I'm just there in the game. In fact, there wasn't a reference to that book in any marked location around. --Atila rey (talk) 23:18, December 30, 2014 (UTC)

The description of the Dot's Diner wasn't quite right. It's a bit closer to the Nuka-Cola plant/Red Racer factory than the Fairfax ruins. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:39, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
Well, that's why I put the link in the Red Racer factory, not int Fairfax ruins. Now in Nuka-Cola plant also. :) --Atila rey (talk) 23:53, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
You're rusty, that's it. I hope to see you edit a bit more again in 2015. A resolution maybe? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:10, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

Nukapedian of the yearEdit

I would like to thank the board for the faith put in me, and if my life doesn't change to drastically, I'll be very happy to accept that seat :) Happy new year to you as well!! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 13:45, January 2, 2015 (UTC)


Have you not been paying attention to the recent talks about this? We just finished a vote with clarifies that BtS content DOES NOT need to be verified. (I refer to to this and this). The requirement for BtS content is as follows;

"Behind the scenes" information in the form of cultural references is acceptable page content only when there are obvious direct visual or textual correlations, in the event there is no developer confirmation.

This specific rule supersedes the general rule of "everything must be verified."

Do I think that there need to be expansion for this point? Yes I do. But the verify doesn't cover that. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 21:22, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Except the issue isn't that it has no reference, it's that it lacks detail. The verify template doesn't mark things for "adding detail". A more appropriate template would be clean up. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 21:35, January 2, 2015 (UTC)

Talk page removal considerationEdit

You read my mind :) Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:43, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

中文 Fallout Edit

你好!我有时间的话,我想把zh.fallout.wiki所有的英文翻译成中文。可以吗?--吉野 Cassie MikuPink534629280947623198Talk 00:54, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

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