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Quality images

Saint, that image of the Jefferson Memorial is substandard quality, so I'm removing it. I asked you before, can't you start the game setting the resolution to 1280*1024 pixels? That's the resolution I create my screenshots with. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:26, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Now that's a lot better don't you think? Compare the two and I'm sure you'll agree with me. Maybe you can enhance the quality some more. I can do that in Photoshop by setting the quality to 10 or higher (standard 8). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:16, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


I wouldn't worry about it. They've been working on the achievement system in the past few days. The badges can only be viewed in groups of 9 now (you have to click on next) and the leaderboard now has little triangles behind the position to mark shifts in position I think. It still has some bugs like the messed up tracks' edit counts, but they'll set it right, I'm sure. Just make sure you make at least one edit a day and you'll reach that golden badge in 60 days. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:54, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Veteran's Day!

Hello, SaintPain, as you are a veteran, I, among many others, appreciate your service. I wish you a happy Veteran's day, and give you a gift. Thank you for your service and for giving me advice about the Army.

A Light Shining in Darkness
You have been given A new sidearm.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Happy Veterans Day! Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 15:42, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad to see that you weren't forgotten about. Happy Veteran's Day, SP. Thank you for all your service to our country! ~ Toci ~ Go ahead, make my day. 17:40, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your service to we the People, and this great country SaintPain. You will always be remembered, and you will never be forgotten.

Enclave .44
You have been given a new pistol for your armory!.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Happy Veterans Day to you! --Enclavesymbol 17:28, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
You have been given a piece of Artillery just like you remember.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Saint Pain, I offically thank you for your service to your country. May your country never forget what you did for them. -- The Old World Relics (talk) 18:11, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Saint Pain, even though it wasn't my country you fought for, you still deserve the same acknowledgement from everyone for the great service you did for your country. Thank you Saint Pain and may you keep on keeping on for many years to come being yourself. -- The Old World Relics (talk) 18:11, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Vet's Day

From a mortarman to the artilleryman, Semper Fidelis, Saint. May your fuses always be set right and the round go out the right side of the tube.  The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 01:57, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Veterans' Day, Saint! Thank you for your service. --Skire (talk) 02:55, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


Saint, why did you change back to low quality images again? I rather see them uploaded on high resolution. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:36, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Long time no see

Hey, buddy! What's new with you? Never get to see you when I jump on chat, you're never there. You seriously need some other way to be contacted. Valoopy sig ☢Valoopy☣ 05:11, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Background proposal

Glad you approve. I'll leave a message to Gunny's talk page - Leon and he have made those images (I just made a proposal). Energy X 14:12, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

The image has been made. See Forum:Proposal: Addition of a new background & banner. Just a note - the image has now been pixelated (too big), but when making the vote I'll note that the image will be smaller, less pixelated. Energy X 18:13, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Dear Hearts

You don't remove the content from a page when you think a page doesn't belong. It appeared in the trailer and I've seen Ausir and Nitpicker of the Wastes working on it. So I guess a trailer song belongs on the wiki. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 04:01, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

You can also look at Orange Colored Sky. It was the trailer song in the UK, but never appeared in the game. --Kastera (talk) 04:07, November 20, 2012 (UTC)


Hi Pain,

Firstly on the Interview thing, that already exists as the "featured Nukapedian" section on the Strategic Nuclear Moose. GarouxBloodline can give you more on that.

On the NPC thing, I have checked it occasionally and thought it was well written. I'll reread it later and be more detailed Agent c (talk) 12:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC).

Hi SP, just a quick update, haven't had the chance to reread your NPC in full detail... Theres a lot more there than I remember, so it seems to be something you're quite passionate about. I'll set aside some time on Tuesday for you. Agent c (talk) 15:44, November 25, 2012 (UTC)


Well, it would be nice, but Leon who made the Strategic Nuclear Moose blog already made the interviews. However, he is inactive, so we could make those interviews much more often. Energy X 14:26, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. Maybe make them less often, but otherwise fine. --Skire (talk) 17:34, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Two things

First, I don't know of any sites for image effects. Maybe Js will know. I use GIMP on images, but I'm just a novice at it.

Second, Leon used to do some interviews. They were interesting. I'll run it by some of the other admins and see if it's something people are willing to do. I remember him having trouble finding people to interview at times. It could be something featured in the weekly news, though, if it can be done. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 20:34, November 21, 2012 (UTC)


I have a suggestion, maybe you should change your AKA to King of Pain, like in that Police song? It fits, I mean you are destined to be the King of Pain because you're the Saint of Pain at the moment.

Brandon Fox (talk) 23:46, November 21, 2012 (UTC)BrandonFox

Dear Hearts

I know it was an honest mistake, but I would think by now you should know not to remove content from pages, especially with these kind of legit pages with a complete infobox and plenty of content. When you read the page you will see the song's not in the game, but it is in the trailer. And these songs we mention too. Better ask an admin or post a comment on the talkpage in the future if you have doubts.

Featured Nukapedian is something Leon did in the past. But his time is becoming scarce and he doesn't have time for it anymore I think. Could be brought back as a link in the news digest, but I wouldn't do it every week. Every 2 weeks I think. Talk it over with Leon to learn how he did it and get some ideas on questions etc. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:22, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Image deleted

I removed the image from the page because it didn't work, it was blank and when clicked would list as no longer available. WhiteReaper (talk)

I always sign my posts, I just forgot it this time. I'm new to the Fallout wiki but I already spent some time in other wikis. I know a lot about the games too, I actually spent over 200 hours in Fallout 3. I removed the image because I thought the image itself had been deleted and that the empty box had been left there. About the tildes, as far as I know 3 is only your username, 4 is the username + date/time. WhiteReaper (talk) 13:15, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Of The Year ~Yes-Man~Served= Reply

Unfortunately I have no idea who than anon was, I have no clue as to how to track IP addresses. But yeah I agree, we need more people who speak up.

As for Yes Man, yes I nominate him for nukapedian of the year because I think that anon's nomination for him did not count because the rules state that only registered users may nominate, anons can only second. I'm changing my previous nomination for Jspoel to Yes Man.

Fight the power brother!

Brandon Fox (talk) 17:44, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Images quality

I've uploaded a screenshot from my FO3 settings. I'm getting great results with it. I wonder why it is you have images 30-40kb and sometimes 200-300kb. I rather see them consistent large sized. Also the angle is not always that great. Hovering 90 degrees (so topside image) is not that good. Better lower the angle. Don't know how the Calverton name was found. Maybe in a reference somewhere in the game (holodisk/terminal message). Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:47, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

This image is what I meant as a 90 degrees shot. It doesn't view well. I had to turn my head to get an idea of what it was. Good quality btw.
Then an image you uploaded later on: File:Calverton pulpit. Lying, Congressional Style.jpg. Poor in quality and such a difference with the previous (20kb). Don't understand that.

I don't have to really fiddle with my photoshop program (I do use Auto Contrast though). The image comes out standard 1280*1024. After that I cut it a bit. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:32, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

( What you post on your userpage is up to you, can be low quality (don't really see a difference between the image on my talkpage and your userpage btw). But I want good quality images on the article pages. That's also a policy. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:58, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

A project I would welcome a cold eye on- Reply

Okay first off, I'm not experienced with giving input on fan-made companions and game stories ect, but I'll give it a shot.

First off, I'm confused how with a lobotomy, this character is the way she is. Lobotomy refers to the cutting of nerve connections between the frontal lobes and the rest of the brain. The frontal lobes are the seat of the higher functions such as love, self-insight, creativity, judgement, future planning. She shouldn't still be able to love her father, she shouldn't be able to be so creative with weapon design. A lobotomy would not "gift" her in melee weapons, explosives, improvised weapon design, pyromania and gourmet cooking like you said in the beginning, but would rather deprive her of those skills. Not only that, the back-story didn't even say that the lobotomy is what gave her these impressive skill-sets, it was because of the books she read when she was younger which gave her these skill-sets. In this regard, this hardly makes her a unique character since she is just a brain-damaged brute.

My second concern is that I would rather prefer an option which allows the player to restore her humanity, like the happy way she was when she was a child, a way to save her from the psychopathic way she currently is so to speak. I don't quite like the damaged beyond salvation approach you've decided to go with her. Allowing the player to complete a side-quest regarding fixing her her brain and mind could offer some possibilities to the player! Choosing to fix her brain, restore her humanity will cause Polly to lose the mask and reveal her face, scarred from the pain she had to endure when her father placed the mask on her. After this, the next part of the quest is to bring her to a doctor to do some surgery to her face to get her looking nice again, remove the horrible scars. At this point, the player can choose what they want her face to look like, maybe they can even choose to restore her original beautiful looks at her current age?

Of course, going this "good" route has some downsides, first off, she has a conscious now, and will decide to leave you if you do too many bad actions like murdering innocent people or going the bad route in quests eg. She will also lose her skills in melee weapons and pyromania, as well as a fairly big decrease to her attack damage. On the plus side, due to becoming more friendly and peaceful, she has devoted her time more to Repair and Cooking. When crafting items, you get access to secret foods which heal a lot of health such as imitation Deathclaw omelet; no more looking for deathclaw eggs and lakelurk meat! And you get to repair items using similar items in its class (she grants effects similar to the Jury Rigging perk. Polly can repair a Sniper rifle with a hunting rifle, a .44 revolver with a crummy 9mm pistol).

Going the bad route, and deciding to press the mask further into her face, causes her to stay the same, an obedient slave to you. Obviously, she doesn't care if you act evilly during quests and have bad karma. She gets an great increase in damage and damage threshold and gets an even more improved version of her Firestarter perk?

That said I hope you found what I said useful, although I was probably quite crap in giving advice, I've never commented on fan made characters before...

But please, give the player a chance to restore Polly to her good, kind and beautiful self, or I'll be sad ;(

Brandon Fox (talk) 02:14, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

A project I would welcome a cold eye on- Reply

Hey, no problems friend, just glad I could help you out

Brandon Fox (talk) 20:20, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Continued replies and shizz

Ha, yeah, "job creation" doesn't matter when the companies have no choice but to pay new workers less, thanks to loopholes and capitalism (which is apparently the devil himself, even though our country RUNS on it). Don't you worry your pretty little head- I didn't follow the sheep of young voters OR the Romney "He's Not Obama" voters. I threw mine away and voted for Johnson! Worth it though. --Valoopy sig ☢Valoopy☣ 02:10, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Something for you to take a look at

I have just written my thoughts on the endings for Fallout New Vegas on my profile page, about who I think is best to run Vegas. I go into a lot of detail. Want to give it a read?

Brandon Fox (talk) 16:49, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Categorizing images

Now your images are of good quality, although you can still fiddle a bit with the angles. I saw one or two with a 90 degrees downward angle which is not the best. And you can categorize them, you can see how on User_talk:Eden2012#Images. For Fallout 3 locations it's [[Category:Fallout 3 location images]]. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:16, November 27, 2012 (UTC)


Thanks. I was trying to tie in the Nuka-cola bottlecap wordmark and the "vault" theme. It's a little dark for my tastes, and the only background fade color that looks good with it is black. I plan on taking the same shot with the lighting turned up. I want it a bit lighter and the fade color I'd like to make it work with is that soft creamy brown in the floor tiles. The Gunny  380px-USMC-E7 svg 21:12, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Had a bad day- Reply

Sorry to hear about your truck. Must have been quite an experience to have it smashed and go the poor person's house who done it, who by the sound of things doesn't have a dollar to his name and is in real bad financial shape. While I have sympathy for him, I can't stop feeling that this could have been avoided if he didn't run that stop sign like an idiot, and/or just wasn't driving anyway due to his revoked license. Anyway, hope things get better for you.

Cheers for the extra points on NCR by the way, I'll see to adding in something like that.

No gods, No masters. Brandon Fox (talk) 13:23, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I also found this to be quite interesting reading. I agree with it quite a lot and I support it. Some of ties into why me and you prefer Yes Man over NCR, Legion and Mr House.

No gods, no masters. Brandon Fox (talk) 20:33, November 29, 2012 (UTC)


Sorry its taken this long for me to get around to it.

Writing that has clearly been a a labour of love, and I'm glad you choose to share it with the world.

I think you've shown great insight into how "Good people go bad", spiraling years of abuse and neglect into the shattered remains of a person. It very much explains how she got the way it is - normally overlooked when fiction calls for a psycho - they're just a psycho and thats it.

The only minor issue I have is I'm not sure how it fits into Fallout centuries after the bombs... Is she Ghoulafied? Have her fathers' experiments extended her life, etc?

But very well done. I hope you consider joining in the Apprentice next year, as I think you'll do well if thats the quality of entry we can expect. Agent c (talk) 00:20, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Reverted edits

Saint, I reverted your edits on the Fallout Tactics character pages. Your edits weren't improvements, just leave it in present tense. And why did you change 'is' into 'Was' with a capital W? I don't understand why you do that, it's in the middle of a sentence. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:40, December 10, 2012 (UTC)


Hello, I'm sorry if I am bothering you by leaving this message but I'd like to thank you for replying to my blog and wish you a happy new year too. Corniolio (talk) 02:34, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I've had a bumpy ride so far in this wiki and for many reasons I feel I'm far more disliked than liked here. So it really means a lot to me. I also used your words in a few previous requests because I really agreed with them and they summed my views perfectly, I really hope that's ok with you. Corniolio (talk) 15:58, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Your comments.

Hello there! Just wanted to let you know (in case you don't return to the discussion page) that I completely agree with your sentiment on the addition of new rules. To me, intent is everything and often I feel it is overlooked and taken too seriously. Obviously, there are limitations (you can't poison people and claim it was a joke, for example), but still things should be taken in jest especially when it is clear that they aren't meant seriously, or in good faith if they are said for the right reasons, albeit in the wrong way. Personally I think your ban is unfair for what transpired, and I have voiced my sentiment to Jspoel. When the time comes I will support your reinstatement as I did before.

Also heard through the grapevine you were a Marine. As an ex-PMC I can tell ya that the Marines saved my skin on more than one occasion, and they were always polite and courteous even though we were technically mercs. It may be inappropriate, but Semper Fi.

FollowersApocalypseLogo Apocalypse Now! 10:16, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you appreciated my comments. People really need to, as I like to say, take a chill pill.
As for my merc days a lot of the stuff I can't elaborate on too much; it would be breach of contract. I'm Canadian and I worked as a private military contractor for 2 different private security firms in Iraq and Afghanistan. I worked private security detail for a while, mostly guarding lower-level diplomats and government officials. After a couple of close calls (again, the Marines saving my ass from being handed to me) I decided to get out of the whole putting my ass on the line for corrupt politicians thing and moved into intelligence (or what they call 'information reporting'). Basically just hanging around the middle east for a bit. I still owed them some time so I signed up with an EOD team to finish out my contract. Luckily most of the crap we dealt with was false alarms and weak ass IEDs. I never dealt with the bomb stuff, mostly just drove the guys in the suits places they needed to go and make sure they didn't get shot at. Never killed anyone that I know of, thank God. It was a good experience and I would probably go back in it again, but not the middle east. Maybe if we get involved in South America or East Asia somewhere. FollowersApocalypseLogo Apocalypse Now! 06:44, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
I worked with a few Blackwater mercs. In my opinion that company hires the wrong kind of people, too many unstable pumped up jocks who'll shoot anything that moves. The guys I worked with weren't too bad, but they did have that crazed temperament about them. I'm grateful for the Jarheads though, I was riding shotgun in an armoured limo once and we drove into the wrong place at the wrong time. Luckily a squad of Marines was on the street over and rushed over to help. Even after all my reservations about the military it was a proud moment to be fighting along side them. I wouldn't go back into the game unless there was a major NATO or UN op somewhere where people like me tend to come in useful. I'm not looking to guard drug lords or human traffickers. Maybe put some bullets in their head, though. Then again, some of those bastards I guarded probably deserved it too. At least I was always working for the 'right' side, but you never know what people are guilty of. FollowersApocalypseLogo Apocalypse Now! 07:53, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
Oh you didn't don't worry. By the 'right' side I mean I was generally working for governments who were in the process of reconstruction, as it were. The problem is that even though there may be a regime change, the new leadership is not always the better choice, or even an improvement. See Egypt right now. I don't have any serious problems with America or NATO or any of those peacekeeping nations but there are some bad people in power in the middle east because of them. That's all I'm saying. FollowersApocalypseLogo Apocalypse Now! 23:54, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

Cooking Blog

Hi SaintPain,

Saw your cooking blog... If you want people to comment you need to make sure the "enable commenting" box is ticked.

I've been thinking of trying to pull together a "How to cook rat" Fallout-esque cookbook (inspired from the F1 manual). Might be a good thing to maybe pull together as a charity thing for Easter or something.... Lemmie know if you have any thoughts. Agent c (talk) 22:21, December 18, 2012 (UTC)


How is it a bug to wear headwear and eyewear at the same time? Paladin117>>iff bored; 02:40, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


Hello, Saint. I would like to first state that I still approve of having an image made to bear witness to a fairly unique glitch. If you'd like, I would have no problem with you adding that image, on the grounds that we don't really need the other image anymore. I do approve of this new image, though, as it shows that both headwear and glasses may be worn with the Chinese stealth suit. I hope this compromise it to your approval. Just trying to keep down image clutter is all. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 03:26, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

I think I know of a way to make everyone happy. Go ahead and re-add that image, and I'll captions to them that should allow both images to appropriately stay. I hope this will be to your satisfaction. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 03:49, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


I know. If the missing a day in a row for editing would erase all my progress for the "1,500 edits" badge was true, I'd be hopping mad. But thankfully it isn't that way, so no worries there. Whew!Leea (talk) 23:13, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!

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You have been given a book of riddles.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Hope you enjoy it SP! I'm sure you can get a bunch of use out of it! Merry Christmas Saint! -- Fallout Skyline - Apprentice "Those Old World Relics still stand..." 22:40, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year SaintPain! Yours Always; -- Fallout Skyline - Apprentice "Those Old World Relics still stand..." 22:40, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

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