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A review of all extra rights holder has been done. You have been moved to the inactive list and we'll allow a three month period for you to increase and maintain your activity before your administrator rights are removed. We do understand that people have other demands on their time and it is understandable if you can not. We all appreciate your contributions and hope that you will become more active and retain those rights.  The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 16:42, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

It is my understanding that the threshold for inactivity is six months. Could you enlighten me as to why a shortcut was taken in this case?
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 13:38, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Since September of 2013, you have been largely inactive with most of your contributions being talk page messages and forum posts from Sept 2013 through Feb 2014. Your edits and use of rights has picked up slightly in the recent month or two, though. With the push from the community to hold extra rights users to a higher level of activity/accountability, we're no longer defining activity by a single or a few edits, since there was a loophole in the requirement that basically allowed rights holders to be barely active and make one single edit to avoid being placed on the inactive list or having their rights removed. We looking for a little more consistent activity now, more like what you've done recently. Please bear in mind the decisions made about active/inactive users was made by consensus among all the BCs, I'm not acting unilaterally. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 15:16, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I'm afraid that's not enough, you need community consensus for that, not bureaucratic consensus. The current rule is obviously broken, but any warranted fix must still happen through the proper channels. The discussion and voting shouldn't take more than a couple of weeks, I'm certain we can all contain our reformatory enthusiasm until then. I've reverted my placement on the inactive list as according to the current rules I'm still away from a forceful inactivity.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 15:57, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

Inactivity was never to the best of my recollection actually defined, with the 1 edit thing seeming to fall into place by default... 1 Edit per six months clearly isn't active... We've got to be looking for more than just a token number of edits - some are choosing to make that occasional edit just to stay ahead of the line, and I don't think its enough. Agent c (talk) 18:56, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

And I agree, like I said the policy is obviously broken. Look, my issue isn't with tightening the standard. Or even my being affected by said tightening, for that matter. I take issue, besides the vague, obscure and arbitrary parameters ("more consistent editing"? That's like establishing the speed limit of a road as "not too fast"), with the proper procedure being ignored and shortcuts being taken for no reason at all. We already have a system in place with which to change our policies, one that invites the whole community to discuss and propose said changes. We do things in the open, not through determinations reached ad hoc by cabinet meetings of the bureaucrats. Refusing to recognize the legitimacy of this is a matter of principle to me.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:11, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Is the policy being changed though? The policy is

In the event that an administrator or moderator has been inactive for an extended period of time, they will have their user rights removed by the bureaucrats and restored by a community vote upon a return to constructive editing.

There is no change to the policy. We've looked, and we believe at the moment your current activity isn't enough to be said to be "active"... There is nothing defining "active" or "inactive", just saying that its our job to remove rights from those who are "inactive"... That would imply that its up to us to determine what is "active" or "inactive". Agent c (talk) 22:21, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I am actually going to step in here: Bureaucrats were never given the right to overrule the community on deciding what constitutes as active/in-active. The only power Bureaucrats were given in this event is to remove rights once the community established guidelines have been violated, and that was only given because only Bureaucrats can remove Administrative tools. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:27, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
As GB says, the determination of inactivity was never given to the bureaucrats. The policy merely states that they are the ones to actually remove the rights. Nothing more -- not even that they are the ones to place the name of the user in question in the inactive list.
Also, from Gunny's post, it's clear that you only considered article edits for this, which is a direct violation of the parameters agreed on the occasion of the vote of the inactivity policy. As you can see here, forum and talk page edits are as valid as article edits. The people who voted on the policy did so on the belief that this would be the interpretation that would be followed when applying the policy, and changing it requires a brand new vote.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:43, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Which is logically both incorrect and impossible as written. The rule merely states inactivity. "The Community" have never defined it. Such a reading of the rule clearly fails the literal rule as it results in an absurdity - The Burecreats are being asked to in this case enforce a rile that cannot be enforced.
This leaves us to the Golden Rule which means that it must be read in a way that makes it logical, but narrowly as possible. AS the role is for Burecrats to apply or not apply in the rule, it implies that it is within our discretion to define.
The other possibilities of Legislative Interpretation also support this conclusion - The mischief rule asks what was the intent of the rule - for bureaucrats remove rights from those no longer having a significant ongoing impact on the wiki, which is what these messages are doing, and the Purposive approach comes to a similar conclusion.
Ultimately, if we're being asked to enforce a rule that is logically impossible because "The community" was supposed to define a term and never did, I'd be compelled to undo every single "inactivity" rights removal (with the exception of perhaps Porter). If the term was undefined, then none of them could have been inactive.
The rule, as stated, is being enforced. I'm sorry if this doesn't meet your satisfaction Limmie, and Leon, as a former admin, I'm not entirely sure what you think your role is in this. Agent c (talk) 22:38, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I want to see the discussion/vote where the community approved of voting for Bureaucratic power to host meetings between themselves and only themselves to determine whom is active or inactive without community consensus. Otherwise, I can guarantee you such actions will be vetoed, and I know I will call upon community veto if I ever see this enforced without community approval. You know my stance on this: I am against users abusing their inactivity. But at the same time, I am not going to sit idly should any member with Special Rights pretend they have power that was never given to them by the community. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:47, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

The community did define it. "Definition of inactive is six months of a lack of editing". That means no edits in six months. Is it a good rule? No. But it is clear. Should we change it? Definitely. But through the proper means.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:48, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

(You gave it to us when you asked us to enforce the rule. We cannot enforce the rule without a definition of "inactivity" or even "lack of editing". If you want to define either, please do so because we have no idea what you think its supposed to be. To me inactivity means "Not Active", a token edit every 6 months is definatley not Active, and a token edit every 6 months isn't "editing" either. How do you expect us to enforce a rule when a term is undefined, other than by coming up with a definition? Agent c (talk) 22:51, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

I want to see where we gave the Bureaucrats that power. The community voted on inactivity being defined at 6 months of little to no edits, with rights removed shortly after should they fail to pick up their activity (Limmie does not fit this bill, as she has over 500 edits this year alone). The community never discussed giving Bureaucrats the power to hold non-transparent meetings. The community never gave the Bureaucrats the ability to pick and choose who is inactive or not. The community never discussed the Bureaucrats being able to bypass what the community voted on. Limmie is absolutely correct: the inactivity policy is horrid, and we all know that after seeing it in practice. If anything is to be done, the policy should be amended. If the Bureaucrats want extra power in determining what constitutes as inactivity, then they need to gain community approval first. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:56, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
  • You gave us the power when you gave us a rule to enforce. Do we stop enforcing rules where the community hasn't defined every word? You're being absurd.
  • We need community approval to hold meetings and discuss things now? Leon, you are such a hypocrite, I'm calling you out on this one as YOU asked for one of these meetings. YOU have been in many admin PMs and Meetings and have even called them in the past. Did you get community consensus before talking to Skire and 69?
  • Then please do amend the policy. If you don't like how its enforced, get off your backside and do something. We're trying to follow the "Awful" policy as best we can. Agent c (talk) 23:04, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to remind you that the reason the policy was voted in the first place was to deal with the pre-Nukapedia admins who had no interest in coming back. Hence the obviously lenient threshold, it was never designed to deal with people who actually considered themselves active. If the rule as is is unenforceable, then you don't enforce it at all, and start drafting a new proposal to be submitted to the community. What you DON'T do is shoehorn a way to enforce it from the top of your heads, and most definitely not in a way that raises your own power base in detriment of the community.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 23:07, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I can assure you that Chad is neither gaining power from this, nor is the community in detriment with the loss of your admin rights. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving Intercom01 23:09, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Raises our power base? Ok, whatever. If you wanna turn this into a drama, then I'm just not going to play. Our job in that policy is clear. Last time we dared question the policy and asked for discretion not to remove rights, we were shouted down. I'm sorry if you're not happy about it. Agent c (talk) 23:13, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
If you want to take things down this way, fine, I'll be blunt. You do not have the authority to put me on the inactive list. If you want that authority, then write up a forum asking for said. Until then, stop bothering me with this empty nonsense.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 01:40, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, a rule to enforce - declare inactive users as inactive, and remove them should they remain inactive. Should I again remind you that Limmie has almost as many edits as you this year? More edits than Clyde? More edits than a large amount of our other special rights users?
  • I never said meetings cannot be held without community consensus. I was referring to the Bureaucratic meeting that was brought together with the sole purpose of coming to a non-transparent decision. Decisions are supposed to be transparent. You will notice that everything I ever said in our inactivity meetings? Released on a public forum.
  • You are not going to force this on me. I might be able to frequent Nukapedia still, but my time still does not allow for me to follow forums daily and dedicate the time to see such a controversial forum through. That question instead needs to be directed to the community as a whole. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 23:16, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
How is it that I am Leon's go-to gauge for inactivity? And for that matter, you do seem to have time to follow things through on here as you were championing the campaign to overturn Fireburn's ban yourself personally. When you were an admin you acted like a bc and now as a non admin you act like an admin. As for the "obvious lenient threshold", you can't expect to enact a rule to remove rights of people and then when the rules come around to you say that the rules don't apply or that they are broken. I for one wasn't for this particular rule. In my opinion, anyone who has special rights and doesn't abuse them even if they are inactive is fine. It's not like a store with a finite amount of keys. And if their account gets hacked, the wiki can be fixed, account blocked and rights removed. Not hard. This rule was by definition a bunch of silly bullshit.--Kingclyde (talk) 16:36, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
Don't twist it KC. I don't give a damn about being in the inactive list, I even added myself there several times already. My problem is with the creative interpretation of the rules you guys took upon yourselves to champion. The rules tell you that a user is considered inactive after 6 months without editing, and to remove their rights after 9 months without editing. Nothing more, nothing less. Nowhere did they give the BCs the power to arbitrarily decide through secret backroom meetings who you guys fancied inactive, using whatever shady and obviously biased parameters you felt like. My beef here is exclusively with the violation of proper procedure and nothing else.
For all my time here I always stuck to the rules as faithfully as possible, and demanded others to do so. In fact I often paid quite a price for that. Remember when I found out about the signature picture limitation rule? The one that said they couldn't be more than 10 pixels high? I hated it, thought it was an absolutely stupid and unnecessary rule, and it completely butchered my sigpic. Yet I immediately changed it and started telling others to do the same. I had to endure being constantly badmouthed and ridiculed by so many people, including by fellow admins, all because I wouldn't compromise until the rule had been properly and legitimately struck down. Because I believe that I would have no right nor moral to enforce the rules if I myself skirted or turned a blind eye to one of them, even if it was a minor or poorly conceived one, or one that wasn't convenient to me. So don't you even dare to accuse me of doing this just to guard myself, you have no right to do that. That's dishonest and outright sordid.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 01:54, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
Right now as I see it you are active. I honestly think the rule is a bad lemon. It seems you do as well. Why don't you formulate a better solution and post a forum topic? Right now all I see is complaining from everyone about how bad this policy is but no one is taking action to fix it.--Kingclyde (talk) 23:52, April 23, 2014 (UTC)
I no longer use you as an example of inactivity. The community declared that your level of activity was enough, and now I respect that. I used Chad, you, and also my general statement that Limmie has more overall edits this year than about 80-90% of our Special Rights users to prove a point. Not a point of inactivity, but a point that she has been just as active as everyone else, even if that activity has not necessary extended to mainspace edits. As for me acting like a Bureaucrat/Admin, all I have to say is that I do what is necessary. I do not need rights to magically gain the confidence needed to speak my mind and stand my ground. I would be quite a hypocrite if I stopped being blunt simply because I am no longer an Administrator.
As for the inactivity policy deal, you are a bit mistaken. First of all, I was staunchly against this policy since the beginning, and only voted for the greater evil when the vote came around. So we are in the same boat when it comes to our personal feelings on this subject. Secondly, I did not champion Fire's unbanning. That would be AFollower. The only reason I got involved was because Fire was talking to me on Community Central, and then I simply stated my opinion when the forum went up. I do not want to bloat up Limmie's page any more, so if you have any additional comments, leave them on my TP and I will get back with you (would have missed this if you had not just responded). ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 00:05, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

I'm posting a forum to fix this now.--Kingclyde (talk) 00:16, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

I cant help but wonder if this was a bit of a mistake. You've got a good number of edits... I'm sorry about all of this. Agent c (talk) 12:28, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

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Hi. You removed my edit of hairy deathclaw page, which was more or less backed by in-game facts. I'm pretty sure they based on early(hairy) deathclaw concept(with addition of horns and some reptilian traits) and aren't related to chameleons closer than to, say, rhinoceroses, alligators or platypuses(and your restored reference was about F2 anyway), and that unlike cham-claws they thrive in snowy climate and can perform human tasks like fixing stuff, driving vehicles and use claw-handleable weapons like grenades. Sure, nobody uses them for that as ghouls and geeks are much better at that business, but they still much different from cham-claws, as even enclave-modified sentient ones were unable to do anything at all without voice command receiver on their tech. Of course you are more experienced than me in wiki-editing, but do consider checking edits for facts before erasing them altogether.````(my IP is likely different from the one recorded in Changes history) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

While those arguments have merit, we only accept info that comes either from the games or from the developers. Since we have no actual proof from canon sources for any of those claims, we cannot accept them, no matter how plausible they may be. I understand it may be a bit frustrating to have your work removed due to the anti-speculation principle, but we enacted it for a reason -- you'd be surprised at how much perfectly logical and plausible theories turned out to be disproven by later games or the devs themselves. But rest assured I tried to salvage as much as possible from your contributions.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 00:52, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
Again, all aforementioned stuff was in game or around it, and 'speculation' about hairy Deathclaw appearance was somewhat confirmed by the developers of original, there was even brief mention in the Bible on several occasions.
And as far as I know, nothing of an edit in question were salvaged unless it went somewhere else, though worth of an edit itself remains questionable.
What I do care about, however, is that you use quote of F2 character, which was an in-game speculation itself about not normal but enclave-modified Deathclaws, to justify something about Hairy Deathclaws of FT, which may as well be animal of an entirely different biological order. They certainly are related somewhere along the way judging by reptilian traits and oviposition, but they look more related to monkeys than each other, considering significant size, intelligence and physique difference. Doc may be qualified, but he never even seen nor heard of hairy Deathclaws. That rubs me in a very wrong way.
Speaking of Fallout and Fallout Tactics differences, there is another similar problem in the matter of Power Armor and Advanced Power Armor. In many places there are 'speculations' about the fact that neither old Brotherhood nor Enclave are possession of relevant technology, so FT Brotherhood shouldn't be too, completely forgetting it entirely different look and the fact that even by first half of the game resources of FT Brotherhood included several towns, vaults and military bunkers with all necessary technology, and near the end it captured unique facilities of advanced technology, thus placing FT Brotherhood far ahead its other counterparts. And there were early missions to obtain some of advanced parts to reverse-engineer them, so FT Brotherhood technological competence is quite confirmed.
Shall I indulge myself in rectifying this misconception, or it will prove to be equally bothersome?

Thank you.```` —Preceding comment was unsigned. Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

There are plenty of aesthetic differences between FOT and the original games, and so there is no way for us to know whether or not the two versions of deathclaws are actually distinct strains or merely different portrayals of the exact same species. The fact that in the original design deathclaws were hairy, and that it was only changed due to technical limitations seems to give credence to the latter theory. However, in the absence of hard evidence either way, we can only stick to what's actually said in-game about them, namely that deathclaws are descended from Jackson chameleons and that a deathclaw is a deathclaw, since other distinctions can be attributed to gameplay divergences and different aesthetic choices.
Of course, if you still feel strongly confident on your own arguments that what you wrote is not in fact speculative, you are perfectly free to start an open forum discussion thread and defend them to the community.
On your second inquiry, yes, if you have identified speculation in our articles you are welcome to rectify it.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 05:06, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
This is precisely what I do, in this case it's more productive to appeal to the source of the problem and either get dissuaded or prove my point, as your undoing of my revision will be perceived as solid argument against my point. I should have started forum discussion thread first.
They have similar look, thus they bear the same name. They are doubtlessly related, in a way that you may call related pterodactyl and archaeopteryx, but there too many differences to place both creatures in the same genus. I need to remind you that there is a fact that Deathclaw of original design was entirely mammal, and that from scientific point of view and common sense hair or fur is completely useless to pure reptiles and cham-claws definitely are reptiles. The question is, in which way hairy deathclaws related to Jackson's chameleon, if they, unlike cham-claws are warm-bloded, furry, appreciate cold weather and bear no chameleon traits whatsoever. Even if we assume that Hairy Deathclaws hyperevolved from common Deathclaws, they are no longer are chameleon species, just like you can no longer call a bird mutated species of dinosaur.
I already provided sufficient arguments to why that quote is unsuitable, but here is one more, if you so inclined to to call all and any 'gameplay divergences and different aesthetic choices' insignificant: Joseph said "Deathclaws appear to be mutated Jackson's iguanas", and they definitely do. Your quoted statement relies on distinctive 'horned iguana' traits in appearance to assume this relation. Traits that Hairy Deathclaws do not appear to share.````

JE Sawyer verification Edit

Hey, I was wondering if there was a relation between the names on the signs in Fallout New Vegas and the name of some developers. While working on them and searching the wikia a bit, I came across folowing things:
Dini's Hotel <-- Dini McMurry?
Jessica's Beauty Salon <-- Jessica Edge

Both are "World builders", which makes it even more plausible. And would there be more references in teh signs that we have already? Anyway, Agent c told me that this is rather a question for JE Sawyer and it was best to contact you to ask this question. What do you think? Thanks in advance! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 00:42, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I'll drop a line to him about it with our Formspring account.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:44, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
PS: I sent the question to JES, but he hasn't been answering question for a while now. We should try other devs if possible as well.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 05:24, May 2, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 08:38, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

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hi!<3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecoebi (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

Yes, may I help?
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 22:07, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Super mutant Edit

Why is it that you linked to the overview article of super mutant rather than link to the game relevant article of Mariposa super mutant?--TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 04:00, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

You'll have to specify what instance you're talking about.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:35, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
It's not a big deal, I was just curious. here, here, and here. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving (Talk) 04:40, May 12, 2014 (UTC)
I figured it would make more sense to refer to the broad article, since I don't think the guards would have discriminated between the SM types. When they say mutants aren't allowed they mean all mutants, not that the Mariposa mutants are verboten while other SMs are welcome.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:49, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Bot workEdit

Done. --Skire (talk) 22:27, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks a bunch.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 03:08, May 13, 2014 (UTC)


It is not a proper ban since there was no notification, and at the very least Garoux should have been expelled from chat, which didn't happen since it was a backdoor ban. The proper procedure was completely ignored, making the ban illegitimate. In this case, the benefit of the doubt goes with the user. I'm making the administrative decision to suspend the ban until the proper procedure is followed. Please do not undo my actions this time.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:21, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

No, you are not.
I am placing it right back on. Slinger's having issues, you will wait for him to discuss it. I dont consider your ban warring to be any different to edit warring. Get a consensus with the person you disagree with first.
Stop undermining your fellow member of the leadership team. Agent c (talk) 04:23, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
If you equate it to an edit war, they you're violating procedure as well by reverting me. The policy states: "1)Administrators are allowed to undo each other's administrative actions. 2)However, it is expected that the one who reverts an action explains the reason for the revert. 3)In addition, if the admin whose action was undone disagrees with the revert, they should contact the reverter and discuss instead of simply reverting the revert. If consensus cannot be reached, a third admin should be asked to mediate." I acted according to 1) and 2). You violated 3).
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:28, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Tonigt/This morningEdit

I'm sorry things got tense between us. I believe in backing the fellow members of the admin team in their plays unless there is a reason not to. I had no reason to doubt gunslinger's good faith, but now the evidence is in, its clear the ban cannot stand. Using the logs to troll is bad... but faking a log is worse. Agent c (talk) 05:24, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

So am I, I wish things had been a little smoother. But I know we were both acting genuinely, according to our beliefs. But all's well when it ends well. In relative terms of course, we still have a nasty problem to deal with. But it could have been worse.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 05:43, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

GB's Chat Ban Edit

Hey Sling, what's up with that? What exactly do you mean by "Trolling via logs/Harassment through logs", and if you banned him, why did you do it from the chat? I'd like an explanation please.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:06, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
If you two want to discuss the ban, the correct method is to discuss it before lifting it, rather than straight undermine the actor. Agent c (talk) 04:14, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

His ban falls under the attacks on the user NUkaTurtle about his past experiences with her. He has been warned previously from MY understanding. Also, I had to ban him from his page as I couldn't log onto chat. If you wish to unban him than all of you higher sysops can do it. I banned at my discretion not because I have a problem with GB, but the attacks were unnecessary. It's up to all of you to remove the ban, I really couldn't care right now. Also, the reason for no explanation is in two parts. First part being that I have a bad connection & I had to go to work for a bit. I will be in chat soon if you wish to discuss this further, but on my side it's done. I did what I felt was right and if the punishment from that is harsh treatment from the community, fine. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 08:15, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Due to the escalation of the incident, the issue will now be handled and investigated by three neutral administrators as per policy, so this is now out of my hands. At any rate, I'll refrain from making any further comment on the matter until when or if it goes to a public inquiry, or the issue is cleared.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 17:32, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Hei! Edit

Not the best of circumstances, but just wanted to give you a heads-up here: it appears that the Silent Hill video you linked is now being used passive-aggressively in an attempt to make it out as if it was a "...simulated sex act..." video, with a helpful suggestion tacked on that action could have, and probably should have been taken against you for it. I know you have not been around for a bit, so I did not want you unaware of the fact that you are indirectly becoming involved. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 16:56, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I'll look over the issue.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 23:07, June 6, 2014 (UTC)
Just do not like the thought of anyone getting blindsighted when they are away from the wiki for periods of time. Any chance you could read my latest revelation, by the way? Maybe I am looking too much into it, but the prospect of banning through proxy is such thorough detail is troubling to me. Would like to know before getting any further into the topic as to whether I am overreacting. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 03:01, June 7, 2014 (UTC)
The real question is whether or not you actually believe that there was or that there's a strong possibility of a ban-by-proxy. I haven't thought about this issue for a while due to my absence, so the details are a bit hazy to me, but personally I don't think there was, at least I don;t recall actually considering possibility.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 03:30, June 7, 2014 (UTC)
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A RequestEdit

Do you think you could pop into chat some time today? I have a proposal for you. If we can't find a way to connect here, do I have you on Skype? Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 19:08, June 19, 2014 (UTC)

I can only wait so long on the issue about which I need to speak with you. If I do not hear back from you soon, we may have to move on with this plan without you, which goes against the point of making this plan in the first place. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 13:15, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

RE: SGP Edit

It has recently come to my awareness that the Forum:Standardized Guidance Project doesn't meet the criterion for a forum under the Forum:Wiki proposals and applications detailed as:

This forum is for formal votes on user rights requests and proposals regarding the wiki that have completed the discussion process in Forum:Wiki discussion.

Requests to move the forum to a more proper location such a blog or a discussion forum have been met with resistance and I require an admin's discretionary action. I've come to you because I believe you to be unbiased.

I thank you for any time you are willing to offer and hope this gets resolved quickly. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 21:43, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Situation has resolved itself. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 21:45, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hm... glad to help.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 00:15, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a happy new yearEdit

I would like to use the Christmas-wishes-tradition to thank those around me who kept this wiki and daily life more fun for me during the past year. Everything just seems so normal and evident that we are here almost every day, yet it's very worthwhile to consider for a moment how wonderful it is to have all of you around me, making editing and being on chat a lot more enjoyable. I would also like to use this opportunity to wish a happy and healthy new year for you and everyone around you, with perseverance in tough times, but most of all, with wonderful moments among enjoyable friends and family. Merry Christmas, and a very happy new year in which all your wishes may come true! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 18:14, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

A apology to the mod staff. Edit

Hello you may remember me. SirVaultBoy. I tryed to troll you and other mods and was a general annoyance about a year ago. I wanted to apologize seeing as in the time that has followed those events I've changed and seen the errors I made. Hopefully you and the other mods will except my apology. Thanks for reading.--SirVaultBoy (talk) 23:36, March 26, 2015 (UTC)


Happy birthday! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 01:05, April 4, 2015 (UTC)


I have called a vote to remove a number of our admins and moderators on grounds of lack of presence or activity on the wiki. As you are one of them you have one week to make your case before the vote opens. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?"UserRichard 18:48, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

Good to see your butt back on the wiki. Just remember to drop the starbucks cup and say hello when you got the time. Welcome back, Lim Neko-signature Archmage NekoNeko's Haunt 23:22, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

F4 Edit

It really is nice seeing you around the wiki again, Limmie. We will have to get into some good debates once Fallout 4 hits, for old times' sake. Emotionally-charged debates, naturally. 01:53, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, it's nice to be back too. I'll be looking forward to them, as if there were any other kind.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 02:30, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
I can sort of go along with you on this one. It's one of the worse placeholder names, shall we say. Let's make it Tank (Fallout 4) then. But keep in mind, the pages we create now, saves us so much time and work we can spend better when Fallout 4 is released. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:51, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Ohai Edit

Did not give me a chance to clean up, or anything. ;_; User:Sarkhan the Sojourner 03:14, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

GECK backgroundEdit

It's on the top left of the screen. Fiddle with RGB to change to color, or click on the Select button. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 13:13, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

GECK background change
I don't understand what you mean. I'm taking my GECK images this way. Can you be more specific? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:01, June 21, 2015 (UTC)
Not sure if that is possible. I don't know a way. Try Digital Utopia, if there's a possibility, he would know. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:43, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

Portable infoboxes Edit

Heya :) Just stopping by to see if you have any thoughts on the Portable infobox project that Shining-Armor started up a little while ago. Because of Fallout's obvious importance to Wikia, particularly as we approach the launch of Fallout 4, we'd like to make sure that all your infoboxes are as accessible by mobile devices as is possible. Please drop by the forum as soon as you can and give your views. And of course my user talk page is always open to whatever comments — even rude ones — that you'd like to make!
czechout@Wikia    00:42: Tue 29 Sep 2015

Deutsch HausaufgabenEdit

Guten Tag! So I'm taking German 101 at my university right now. Do you think you can help me with reading over some of the Aufsaetze from time to time? I know you're very busy so please don't feel obligated. --Skire (talk) 18:42, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

Of course! Just drop me a line when you want help, we can meet at the chat.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 23:06, September 30, 2015 (UTC)
Danke!!! --Skire (talk) 02:59, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Internal linksEdit

I noticed it earlier today myself in the previous post on my talkpage. Don't know why it is, and I haven't seen it in Wikia's technical updates reports. Looks like a bug to report to me. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:47, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

C-4 TestEdit

Why Can't We Be Friends?
Hey Limmie, I finally got around to doing this test for you. I collected a couple of screenshots too. The explosive skill requirement to place the C-4 is 50. The amount of C-4 required is 5. Once I completed setting the C-4, I was then teleported outside, and Vault 19 became inaccessible. I'm not sure if this is because I had already completed the quest but for the alternate route. Would you like me to supply you with the screenshots?
Ameme (talk) 08:22, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

I have looked into the matter again, and with Philip Lem still alive and in the vault, I can confirm that to destroy the caves and vault it takes 5 C-4 but to destroy just the caves it is 3 C-4, the explosive skill of 50 is required for both. I have some more screenshots to prove this is the case. Ameme (talk) 09:34, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry for the constant updates today. This should be the last one. I was looking over screenshots I had captured and decided that some weren't suitable so I made a new character went back down to the Sulfur caves in god mode and decided to try to plant the explosives without any skill points being messed with. The final results are - Science of 40 to decided the rock is explosive enough. An Explosives of 50 and 5 C-4 to blow up the caves and vault. Or an explosives of 60 and 3 C-4 to blow up just the caves. Once again I have the screenshots, if you want them just ask. I'm sorry about the constant updates, but I didn't want to supply wrong information. Ameme (talk) 10:07, October 6, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, so it seems the edit was correct after all. No need for the screenshots, your word is good enough.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 16:41, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Helfen Sie bitte!Edit

Can you meet me in the chat in around 15 minutes? --Skire (talk) 05:12, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Crap. I just realised how early it is for you over there... Not good timing on my part XD --Skire (talk) 05:17, October 7, 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, was away for a couple of days, still need help? I should be available now.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 16:48, October 9, 2015 (UTC)
I'm good for now, but there are more Aufsaetze to come. --Skire (talk) 01:11, October 10, 2015 (UTC)


Saturday morning jumped out of bed And put on my best suit Got in my car and raced like a jet All the way to you Knocked on your door with heart in my hand To ask you a question 'Cause I know that you're an old-fashioned man, yeah

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes 'cause I need to know You say I'll never get your blessing 'til the day I die Tough luck, my friend, but the answer is 'No'

Why you gotta be so rude? Don't you know I'm human too? Why you gotta be so rude? I'm gonna marry her anyway

Marry that girl Marry her anyway Marry that girl Yeah, no matter what you say Marry that girl And we'll be a family Why you gotta be so Rude

I hate to do this, you leave no choice Can't live without her Love me or hate me we will be boys Standing at that altar Or we will run away To another galaxy, you know You know she's in love with me She will go anywhere I go

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes 'cause I need to know You say I'll never get your blessing 'til the day I die Tough luck, my friend, 'cause the answer's still 'No"

Why you gotta be so rude? Don't you know I'm human too? Why you gotta be so rude? I'm gonna marry her anyway

Marry that girl Marry her anyway Marry that girl No matter what you say Marry that girl And we'll be a family Why you gotta be so Rude Rude

Can I have your daughter for the rest of my life? Say yes, say yes 'cause I need to know You say, I'll never get your blessing 'til the day I die Tough luck, my friend, but 'No' still means 'No'!

Why you gotta be so rude? Don't you know I'm human too? Why you gotta be so rude? I'm gonna marry her anyway

Marry that girl Marry her anyway Marry that girl No matter what you say Marry that girl And we'll be a family Why you gotta be so Rude Why you gotta be so Rude Why you gotta be so rude? —Preceding unsigned comment added by UDaRealMVP01 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

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Hast du Skype? I think it may be easier for both of us if I happen to have a German question because leaving a message on here doesn't seem too convenient/efficient. Vielen Dank! --Skire (talk) 21:17, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I actually don't. I'm checking the wiki pretty much daily now though, so you I shouldn't be hard to get a hold of through here!
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 00:15, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
Will you be available in around an hour? --Skire (talk) 20:27, November 13, 2015 (UTC)
Well I am now.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 23:15, November 13, 2015 (UTC)

Are you able to be in the chat sometime later tonight? --Skire (talk) 02:10, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Should still be there for another hour or two.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 02:22, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

How about during the next hour or two? Dont sweat it if you arent able to. --Skire (talk) 20:00, November 18, 2015 (UTC)


I see. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheusoff (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!

German CultureEdit

I was told something culturally fun today by one of my German friends: giving someone cacti in Germany is a sign of antipathy. She was not sure as to the origin of that, and I was wondering if you perhaps knew. 寧靜 Fox 21:09, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, TBH this is the first time hearing this...
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 01:30, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Speaking of German stuff, are you able to be in the chat sometime in the next few hours? --Skire (talk) 00:35, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

I was away until today, but if you still need anything drop me a line whenever.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 01:30, January 15, 2016 (UTC)
I see. I hope you enjoyed whatever it was :) I am taking German 102 now (yay!), but I'd really appreciate your help from time to time. I'll let you know, and thanks again. --Skire (talk) 01:46, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Happy new year!Edit

I would like to use the Christmas/New Year-wishes-tradition, though I'm a week late, to thank those around me who kept this wiki and daily life more fun for me during the past year. Everything just seems so normal and evident that we are here almost every day, yet it's very worthwhile to consider for a moment how wonderful it is to have people like you around me, making editing and being on chat a lot more enjoyable. I would also like to use this opportunity to wish a happy and healthy new year for you and everyone around you who is dear to you. I hope you'll have a great and healthy new year in which all your wishes may come true! - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 00:04, January 6, 2016 (UTC)


Are you available to be in the chat at 6 PM your time tomorrow? I had to write an Aufsatz on Angela Merkel (lol) and was wondering if you could take a read (made it small so it's not disruptive, feel free to remove later). --Skire (talk) 07:28, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ich plane eine Reise durch Deutschland über Angela Merkels Leben zu lernen. Ich beginne diese Reise in Berlin, wo die Bundeskanzlerin heute wohnt. Ich möchte zwei Tage hier bleiben. Frau Merkel arbeitet im Bundeskanzleramt, aber es ist normalerweise nichtöffentlich. Man muss in August besichtigen, wann das Gebäude ein paar Tage geöffnet ist. Nächste fahre ich mit der S-Bahn zu die Gedenkstätte Berliner Mauer auf der Bernauer Straße. Hier liegt ein Teil der Berliner Mauer 60 Meter lang. Außerdem kann man die Kapelle der Versöhnung und das Besucherzentrum hier besichtigen. Diese Gedenkstätte zeigt einen wichtigen Teil deutscher Geschichte. Frau Merkel aufwächst in dem DDR und die Mauer ist ein Symbol des Ost-West-Konflikts gewesen. Sie hat 1989 in Berlin gewohnt, wenn der Mauer gefallen hat.

Nächste fahre ich mit der Bahn von dem Berlin Hauptbahnhof nach Templin Stadt. Dies dauert unter zwei Stunden und kostet €10. Templin ist eine Kleinstadt in Brandenburg. Hier wächst Merkel auf, obwohl ihr Geburtsort in Hamburg ist (sie hat nur sechs Monate dort gewohnt). Templin ist 800 Jahre alt und liegt in einem Wald. Es gibt viele Fahrradwege und einen Kanal. Ich bleibe einen Tag in dieser schönen Stadt, bevor ich mit der Bahn von Templin Stadt nach den Leipzig Hauptbahnhof fahre. Dies kostet €60 und dauert drei Stunden.

Frau Merkel hat Physik an der Universität Leipzig studiert von 1973 bis 1978. Man kann zehn Minuten zu Fuß von dem Hauptbahnhof zur Uni gehen. Die Universität unterhält drei Museen: das Ägyptisches Museum, das Antikenmuseum und der Botanischer Garten. Außerdem gibt es viele Sammlungen (Skupturen, Grafiken, usw.). Wirklich hat man viel zu tun! Ich will zwei Tage in Leipzig bleiben. In Summe kostet diese Reise ~€800 und sie dauert fünf Tage. Sie beginnt in Berlin und endet in Leipzig. Die Orte, die ich besichtigen möchte, erzählt die Geschichte der mächtigen Bundeskanzlerin.

I should be more-or-less around this weekend (given the snowstorm), so let me know whenever you are available. Vielen Dank! --Skire (talk) 21:46, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

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