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375 Edits since joining this wiki
December 31, 2008
  • I live in Michigan
  • I was born on November 8
  • My occupation is Licenced Veterinary Technician
  • I am Male

Hi there!Edit

FO1 intro Vault Boy

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Ash Nuke AshRandom (Talk) 04:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

seeing your character in Fallout 3 Edit

You CAN see your character in Fallout 3, you have to switch it to 3rd person. if you have it on the 360 you hit the left bumper (LB) to switch between first and third person, and hold the left bumper (LB) and use the right thumbstick to rotate around and zoom in and out of your character's image. I agree there should be an image on the PIP boy that shows your character as he is dressed, but that would take away some of the realism of the PIP boy.

HarleyEdit

The point of Behind the scenes sections is not to list all similar appearances of an article subject, but to post things the subject seems to allude to. An allusion is a deliberate referencing of one work by another. In this case, it is ver likely that the characters are meant to call to mind the motorcycle brand. It is highly unlikely they are meant to call to mind the pretty obscure movie. If there were a motorcycle in the game that NPCs called The Lord, that would be different.--Gothemasticator 00:16, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Allusions are a bit tricky. The best way to approach them (and our policy here as well) is to stick with "direct visual or textual correlation." How this translates to the present situation is this: The two NPC names together make up "Harley-Davidson" - a motorcycle brand. Direct textual correlation, simple one-move connection between the game and the motorcycle. Together, this equals a likely allusion. Not very weighty, but likely. To get to the movie you mention, we have to take "Harley-Davidson," and then look at a lot of movies which feature the motorcycles, and then filter our list by ones that share themes (notice, themes are not direct visual or textual correlaion). This path is not as simple, not as direct, and therefore less likely.--Gothemasticator 00:33, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
Nowhere have I said "only blatantly obvious" references. Now, if you have a problem with my approach, our policies, or my actions in this case in particular, please bring it up with one of our other administrators. I've explained myself thoroughly here.--Gothemasticator 01:28, December 31, 2010 (UTC)
I am not riled. I was pointing out that I disagree with your characterization of the standards I layed out as restricting references to the "blatantly obvious." I repeat myself here, though, and I ask that if you want to continue the argument/discussion please take it up with another administrator for mediation. I spend a lot of time dealing with the cultural references on this site. I have a consistent and pretty strict approach. It is well thought-out, consistent with accepted literary practice, and helps keep The Vault informative. I have also explained my position on this entry completely. Cheers.--Gothemasticator 01:42, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

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