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PIP-boy imagesEdit

I think I may have tagged just a few of those, I'll browse through the unused files category once more. Jspoelstra 21:19, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with those user page images, Avatar (I didn't quite figure it out with those redirects, so I left them to you) and older Fallout characters. Shall we drink one on it when the unused image category is cleared? (that would probably be so for the first time since the foundation of this wiki). Jspoelstra 21:13, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

  • You're fast with the DLC. Did buy or download it? Just a bit curious.

A strong, sexually explorational, independent woman Edit

Not only have I read the interaction section of the Red Lucy page, I've just finished playing that portion of the game. I realize that simply undoing my edit is far easier than improving the article, but it would still be nice to see an actual reference to in-game support for these questionable assertions. 06:08, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

You asked on my talk page how I would describe Red Lucy's character? I'd say it's fairly ambiguous, although she herself refutes any claims that she's "independent," saying "In the end, stranger, we need [both New Vegas and the Wasteland] to continue making our fate." Beyond that she clearly depends on The Thorn and everyone involved with it (including the Courier) to reinforce her own worldview and sense of identity. "Strong" personalities don't require such large and bloody anchors. 07:04, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Your argument has shifted from "Strength not in the physical sense" to comparing her to the weakest Deathclaw Alpha? What's next, saying she's almost as horny as a Young Deathclaw?

There are plenty of things in the voicover notes that don't carry over into the actual performances. Even if we accept those notes, I would argue that true strength is the absence of weakness, and Lucy only attempted to mask her weakness -- and failed. To me, it came across as her trying to be subtly manipulative at the end just to maintain some measure of power over someone who obviously wasn't going to be overcome by force. At that point, she knew better than to try forcing the Courier to her bed at Dinner-Bell-point with an explosive collar around his genitals. Maybe if she'd done that I could understand describing her as "sexually explorational." Unfortunately, the most that can be said with certainty is that she's bisexual, anything more is just fantasizing.

"If you cant tell me what she is, how can you tell me what she isnt?" is practically saying that, in the absence of a clearly defined subject, things are whatever we want them to be. If that's the guiding principle here at the wiki, there's no point in my trying to do anything about it. I love strong, sexually explorational, independent women as much as the next guy, so I apologize for interfering with the fantasy. 23:54, February 24, 2011 (UTC)


Thanks, we'll see what happens. I have a good chance, I'd say, being encouraged by the bureaucrats. You would have it too, but I understand your hesitation all too well. It's not all joy and happiness being an admin, you have to chase those annoying anonymous users, vandalizing the pages, also. I'd rather focus on my own work instead of being a bit of a schoolteacher, correcting others. But there are also some benefits. I try to look at it positive. Greets, Jspoelstra 21:33, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Admins aren't really "forced" to do anything. Most do a mix of what they like doing or what they feel needs doing (some help with maintenance, some patrol RC etc) but nobody has to do anything. The occasions where admins are asked to help out with some stuff are few and far in between, and even then it's voluntary.
I don't know where you guys are getting the impression that admins have to do certain things - just look at me, it's not like I spend a lot of time with patrolling RC and still nobody's complaining ;) -- Porter21 (talk) 14:02, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
Does this make you cross the line? We'll see. By the way, did you know they're using our pics at the german wiki? Some kid 'stole' my npc images, but I'm quite allright with it. I wrote him a message in my best german. Also made him aware of your weapon images. So don't be surprised if they also end up there :) Greets, Jspoelstra 20:15, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
Well, in my experience it depends more on how you approach the users than on your "status". Sure, you get the occasional "rage against all authorities" type of user, but mostly users/anons reply in the same tone as used by yourself. Plus, there's also the obvious advantages of being an admin (being able to edit protected pages etc) to balance that out :) -- Porter21 (talk) 23:11, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

South Vegas Ruins Edit

Why are the South Vegas Ruins not considered a part of New Vegas? --Flower of Pock-Lips 01:46, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Snowglobe Edit

What's the justification for this revert? The page was edited to bring it in line with FW:LAYI. Even putting that aside, I fail to see how the post-revert version is superior to the pre-revert version. --Flower of Pock-Lips 02:53, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

If that's the case, then the current article should by rights be a quick background section with a list of redlinks, in the same way as Bottle cap. The only real differences currently are in the formatting and the wording of the few of the notes and bugs. --Flower of Pock-Lips 10:04, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
The articles have been separated into individual snowglobes - ading there baseids, locations and images back to the page makes having individual pages redundant. This wouldn't be a problem but "the pages need to be separated" was the reasoning behind this edit. --Flower of Pock-Lips 13:16, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Chart JS Edit

Interesting find :) As far as I can see from the code, it shouldn't work with the Wikia skin though - if you want to try it out, you'll have to insert the script in Special:MyPage/monobook.js and use Monobook. Let me know whether you find it useful (I haven't ever tested it myself) - if it is, I could make it work with the Wikia skin and add it as a gadget. -- Porter21 (talk) 13:54, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

After a quick look, I think it works as follows: When editing a page, there should be a new tab at the top (where the "edit", "move" etc tabs are), which, when clicked, converts ASCII art in the edit box to {{Chart}} syntax (or vice versa). -- Porter21 (talk) 23:11, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, ok. I was too lazy to look up where the addPortletLink function would insert stuff :P -- Porter21 (talk) 23:36, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, I'll take a stab at making it work with the FaceWikiShack skin. Shouldn't be too hard (hopefully). -- Porter21 (talk) 09:22, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
I think I have it working with both skins. I've made it available as a gadget; please let me know if there are any issues. -- Porter21 (talk) 11:52, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reply: Mass Vandals Edit

This is far from an isolated incident Ghost, I'm not sure if you’re aware of that. If it was, I would just have reverted the vandalism, looked up who it was, fixed any of their other vandalism, and went on my merry way. But the fact is there’s been a lot of vandalism in the past week, including repeat vandalism, sometimes mere minutes after the previous vandalism was fixed.

And if you wondering why I messaged Ausir instead of contacting one of you guys the simple fact is on any given wiki among admins I don't know who's in charge of what, who has been active in last few hours and who hasn't not, so its just easy just to leave a message on the top banana's (Ausir) talk page and let him inform the other bananas (you guys) what should be done, if that makes any sense.

Regardless this vandalism is spiraling out of control; mark my words Ghost, because it’s only going to get worse if nothing is done to stem the tide.



Mormon edit Edit

The way I see it, we include a section on the beliefs of every faction in the game. It seems pointless to write a section in my own words on the beliefs on Mormons when there is a perfectly workable explanation on Wikipedia. As for the history, again we include a complete section on the history of every faction in the game, I don't see why this should be any different just because the organization also happened to exist in the pre-divergence world (which makes it almost unique in this regard, so it's not like there's a precedent for this sort of thing). All the information is pre-divergence and is a greatly abridged version so as not to be obstructive to the universe-unique information, and otherwise the article could give the impression that the organization suddenly sprang into existence in 2062. --Flower of Pock-Lips 23:04, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Tables Edit

Could you link me to a couple of those pages so I can check why the bot missed them? -- Porter21 (talk) 07:41, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Think I've found the reason - I accidentally included a space in my regex, so the bot missed instances where "class" did not have a space in front of it (e.g. if the text was {|class="fallout-table"). It's now doing another run which should correct those instances. -- Porter21 (talk) 08:29, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

The IRC channel Edit

Do you have a log of the IRC channel incident you mentioned in the forum by any chance? Ausir(talk) 21:22, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

You're very much welcome during tomorrow's official Vault conference chat there. Ausir(talk)

Jimmy's well Edit

Hey Avatar, I just saw you change Jimmy's well and remembered something. Can you actually find this location? I couldn't find it under the overpass and have the WW perk. If you can, let me know, ok? Jspoelstra 00:29, March 1, 2011 (UTC) Ah yes, Rex as a companion, that was my problem. Thx.

Mojave Wasteland Edit

moved to Forum:Do the DLC's take place within the Mojave Wasteland?

I don't have the time at the moment to carry on this discussion, but I really would like to see a consensus reached on this, so I've moved it to the forums so as to open it up to the community. --Flower of Pock-Lips 19:58, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Bakersfield image Edit

Ooh, shiny :P I'm truly dumbfounded as to how you made made the image with such a plastic-y quality. But personally, I prefer the original pixelation of the old Fallouts my self.

Here and here are the two images I think I'm going to settle with using, and hopefully Flower will like my proposed idea of having two images for multi-purposes. :P -- Ghouly89 (Talk) 03:53, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Vendortron Edit

Thanks, buddy. I think I just may have tagged that one for deletion by mistake. Luckily I save all my uploaded images on my own hard-drive so that was an easy replacement. I have over 2000 by now...

Another one for you. What you think about this: I've been replacing/uploading some images of not unique characters, not from the geck but from the in-game environment. I think the pics more alive then. So for example the Street vendor or Novac settler. Greets, Jspoelstra 00:40, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Quest ID'sEdit

Avatar, do you know where I can find the quest id's for Dead Money? Jspoelstra 21:05, March 4, 2011 (UTC) Thx for the locsation of those id's. Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to ask Porter to import them and add them to the FNV quest id list.

New California Republic (NCR) Edit

Oh. Well, I suppose that makes sense. I always forget that not everyone knows what the NCR stands for, so I feel the need to edit that out. Best regards, Kastera talk 16:30, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sierra Madre card back Edit

Let me think on that for a little while. Another thing, I can't seem to archive my talk page anymore. Do you know if this option by any chance has been changed to Rename?

And I finallyyy figured out how to create those nice perk images, reading your instructions. Greets, Jspoelstra 17:59, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that also with the first 2 perk images, I'll try to correct it. And you can archive my talk page, since I just can't seem to find that Archive button anywhere (it's a sub-option of the edit talkpage button isn't it?) and now I'm an admin (already deleted 2 pages and a block) I want a clean talk page.

How did you create the Dean hologram, Geck or Nif-file? Also, I haven't been able to find npc's yet in the nif-files. Jspoelstra 18:30, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Couple of edits Edit

  • This one - the Bible quote was not plucked from my arse, but is in fact the verse referenced by the Wanderer's birthday, and describes the Fallout setting. I'm not going to get into an edit war over it, but I'd like it restored.
  • This one - that sentence (if you could call it that) describes Harold in Tactics, not Brotherhood of Steel.

--Flower of Pock-Lips 13:35, March 6, 2011 (UTC)


Yes, that one slipped by me, thx. This admin stuff is hard work (although I think it's what you make of it, like Porter said). If you stumble upon more I'll be glad to hear it. About those redirects to blog pages: I've corrected it! Greets, Jspoelstra 19:21, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Done! Shall we forgive the asian guy, it's been 1,5 years ;)

I have restored the example.jpg file, there were 4 pages linked to it. (you gave me an incorrect link to file:image:example.jpg, it's file:example.jpg.

Yes, I have also been active on the wanted images. There's a 2-way solution to this. The links can be removed, like you do now or (like I've been doing for the last few hours), restoring the image. For the images with lots of pages attached to it, my option is obviously faster since I only have to restore the image and all linked pages will be updated immediately. But what now remains, are 1 page links. So now it doesn't make much difference anymore. Greets, Jspoelstra 16:57, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons referenceEdit

Thanks for letting me know about the weapons reference rule, I guess I glossed over that bit of information when I was reading the Reg's. I went ahead and undid the other reference I put up as well.Eigthcypher

Weapon mod images Edit

Can I ask you to take a look at the Dead Money weapon mod images, Avatar? It would be nice if they had good images. Í've tried it myself, but I can't create good images. Greets, Jspoelstra 22:04, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Too bad the mods don't have decent images. In this case, I prefer the weapon image much better than some black box image. So can you place your DM weapon images (holorifle and so on) on the mod pages?

Yes, I like it. It's the best option in this case. It's the weapon image, but also the reminder it's a mod by seeing that box. Good thinking once again!


Hello my friend ;)

I can't use the transcludesection for the Sierra Madre page, for the " Villa " section. do you know how? Thanks in advance and good evening =) ! Itachou [~talk~] 01:22, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

The " background " section ;) Itachou [~talk~] 01:26, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ha ok I understand, we must also change the " base page " to add the section to be taken. Thank you very much to you my friend, hehe you did a great work here since the time given the number of contributions and their quality (nice to see you kept my Vault Boy ^^), I still think you would make an excellent admin ;).

Anyway thank you to you, good night and see you soon Ghost =)! Itachou [~talk~] 01:40, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Timeline Edit

I am sincerely sorry about that. I realized that when I was references to Dog kidnapping the Courier and the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel handing out Aqua Pura. I'll be sure to consult you or another admin in the future if I am hesitant of something. Best regards, Kastera talk 01:34, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Huh. I could have sworn that by your edit count, numerous awards, and your general know-how of The Vault that you were. Best regards, Kastera talk 01:43, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Policy re current vs older patches Edit

Since you're online and likely to be knowledgeable, I was wondering if you could point me to any policy that relates to current patch vs. previous patch data.

For example, the Caravan Lunch under the current patch no longer requires a RadAway to craft, but more than one crafting related pages/lists still mention the Radaway. Is this something to be corrected with or without a note for those playing under earlier patches?

Thanks in advance, --04:41, March 9, 2011 (UTC)Actreal

Navbox templatesEdit

Yes, I have noticed your work in the past few days with those templates. How in the world can you keep this pace up? Almost a 1000 edits in half a week or so. Incredible. I'd almost say you are running the wiki singlehandedly this week. Ok, if I create more new locations I'll add them. Greets, Jspoelstra 00:05, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dead MoneyEdit

I wouldn't mind if you (or maybe Porter) handled this issue, making those DM infobox-links work and maybe some work on those overview pages then. Thx for answering, learned a bit today again. Jspoelstra 00:49, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I'll try it out. You're really helping out everybody here (me too). The Vault is sure lucky to have someone technically skilled as you! Greets, Jspoelstra 01:36, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Quest pageEdit

Hey Avatar, Symptomatic is not happy about the quest overview page. I'm sure you're not ready with it yet. Feel like answering him? Greets, Jspoelstra 02:25, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

  • I should have known, there's not much escaping you here..

FNV character overview pageEdit

You're welcome to join me in the FNV character overview page. But aren't we getting in conflict with each other when we're editing the page at the same time? If you want, you can take it from the bottom up, then I'm going down the page. Greets, Jspoelstra 21:19, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure that's the right approach. When you look at the same page for Fallout 3 you'll see they are split by location. I'd prefer if we postpone the global sort and asked the bureaucrats what they think about it. Jspoelstra 22:32, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Right-o. Yes, that was fast, wasn't it?
  • Get you can a hold of a followers icon then maybe?

Searchlight fire stationEdit

thank you, i'm still learning the wiki (Pcthomas2 02:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC))

New Vegas quest pageEdit

Thanks for the Gadjet man,really appreciate it.(User:Nemerian) 2:44, March 13, 2011


I've been thinking the same thing, adding those icons to the table so they can be used for sorting. Real handy. I like what you've come up with, but all those red crosses hurt my eye. So my first idea to replace them with a more pleasing for the eye x-icon. And (probably personal) I still like the GECK ID also. I find them significant enough to keep. Interested what Porter has to say about it. Jspoelstra 18:14, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

  • Ok, you have a point. With the ones I did, the name was important enough to stay. Though there may be some images to come where the name is not that important. I have reverted my edits. And the red icons, maybe a dash (-) icon then.

He just destroyed many hours of work with a selection and a few simple mouseclicks. It's a good thing we have rollback, ain't it? That's possible, but not certain of course. Just applying the rules. 3-day block is fine I think.

NPC overview pageEdit

I've done some experimenting in my sandbox for the npc overview page, Avatar. I invite you to take a look at my sandbox and see what you like best. I've also informed Porter about it. Jspoelstra 02:36, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Vault boy imagesEdit

Hello Ghost ;)

Hey it's Vault boy ^^, but otherwise it works I'll do it immediately. You think that a page name "Unused Vault Boy" directed link from the page "Vault Boy" might be a good idea? Also, some Vault boy come from the manual of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, a gallery in the "Vault Boy" page for them appears to be well right? Itachou [~talk~] 23:09, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes good idea, the manual Vault boy feel really good in the manual page. Those with the classic brownish-yellow of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 but not used in the Wiki come from the demo of Fallout 1, where there is a pack of Vault Boy never used in the final game.
I see 7 on the page but there are 62 (I currently have on my computer). Maybe one big image of them assembly can do, what do you think my friend? Itachou [~talk~] 23:32, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sound big ^^! They come from the game files. The game itself has no new perks or else using one of those Vault Boy, but they are not used .dat file, and they not appear in the final version. Some are quite strange, for example, Developers seem to have prepared new traits like "No Nose" or "Overweight" but they didn't make. Itachou [~talk~] 23:45, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's work, I do think for tomorrow ;). Otherwise, I think also noted in a new section their name (this would be a shame not to know what was planned for the game), for example =
"Cut content for final version": In the game files, many Vault boy (presumed for new perks and traits) were not included in the final version. Those images are only present in the demo of Fallout:"
  • Danger sense
  • No Nose
  • etc...
What do you think =)? Itachou [~talk~] 00:09, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, it will be completed tomorrow. For the order of names, it will be done in the same order as images, for people wanting to see what image was supposed to be what perks/traits may do so.

Well my friend, good evening and see you soon ;)! Itachou [~talk~] 01:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Finished, I missed one yesterday, they are 63 ^^. Come here if you want to see the lost Vault boy, and for the fun, I also put the first in black and white. Itachou [~talk~] 16:33, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and nice job too. Also, Ghouly89 have corrected my mistakes and made a fresh image, because I didn't have the demo on my computer and just old images taken on a French site.

Ho also, good job for clearing the unused images with Jspoelstra, it's no more a pain in the ass.

I still wonder why you do not applying to become an admin, you can do things more easily and you are largely (and more) able to become admin. Nice evening my friend and see soon ;)! Itachou [~talk~] 01:32, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hum... in looking closer, Ghouly89 have also made some mistakes (like Vault Boy used in the final version and one forget Vault boy). I just acquire the demo and have extract the .dat file, I will change some stuff and we will have finally the skin of the Fallout demo!
Nice evening and see soon Ghost ;)! Itachou [~talk~] 17:53, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Unused images Edit

I've removed the ones which are no longer used. [[:File:Infobox image grad.png]] and [[:File:WidgetBackground.jpg]] are currently still used by the (old) infobox template, and the latter is also used as a background image by the Monobook skin. File:Wiki watermark.png is used by {{Wikiportal/Header}}. Nice job clearing that page, by the way :) -- Porter21 (talk) 19:49, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Unused filesEdit

I certainly have been monitoring the unused files category the last few days. Itachou helped us out great didn't he? He has found a home (like you put it so nicely) for those old perk images and some other old game files. It's good to have him back, hope he finds time to keep contributing. He knows his Fallout, also Dead Money, I've noticed.

Another thing, I'm experimenting with the character overview page. I was thinking maybe join 2 icons in 1 column, to keep down the number or red crosses. You can take a look in my sandbox and see how you like it. Greets, Jspoelstra 22:48, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

  • I have tried out a lot of options on that character overview page in some sandboxes and changed the actual page to the one I think is best. Hope you like it. Jspoelstra 18:12, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Character overview pageEdit

Yes, I've been thinking the same thing... Being like it is now is a leftover from the Fallout 3 character overview page where locations with 2 (or even 1) characters or less were placed in a seperate section. But I would have no problem merging them together. Probably would be even better since everyone is in one table then and the sorting will have even more effect. I'll suggest it to Porter.

  • Yes, I noticed that. But I thought hey, Avatar's online, he will fix it ;) By the way, I'm getting those annoying pop-ups in the left lower end of my screen inviting me to edit a page. Do you know how to get rid of them? Jspoelstra 20:39, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Another thing, I reverted some of your marked for deletion images. I want to keep those icons for a little while longer and that pdf image was uploaded by Ausir yesterday. Better not mess with the master, do we?
File:FALLOUT2A.pdf is not a PDF icon, it's an actual PDF file of the Fallout movie treatment. It's not transcluded on any page, since PDF files generally cannot be, but it is linked from the Fallout film treatment page. Please be more careful with what you tag for deletion. Ausir(talk) 19:30, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
Also, I don't think every image necessarily has to be used in an article. Of course, ideally they should, but just not being in one is not reason enough for deleting it. For example, we should have all released concept art for each of the games in the proper concept art category, even if it's not being used in any article. Ausir(talk) 19:26, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I forgot about the media: thing, I knew there was a prefix for it but didn't remember what it was, and I wanted to post the treatment as quickly as possible. :) Thanks for fixing it for me. As for unused images, another example are the Fallout demo Vault Boy GURPS images. They shouldn't have been deleted in the first place either. And yeah, I know it's generally best to find a home for them on some page. Ausir(talk) 19:51, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


I see you're making some changes to weapon pages. Can I make a suggestion? The weapon effects with for instance the Pulse gun are linked to the overview page of robots/power armor. Wouldn't it be better to link them to the New Vegas robots/power armor page? Greets, Jspoelstra 19:13, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

keep up the good work, i see your a dedicated member.

Hey... Edit

Hi, I'm kinda new to this wiki, and I was just wondering if normal users are allowed to create character templates and custom signatures. On my other wiki, seeing as it was more of a "small town in the middle of nowhere", compared to here, there might be a few issues regarding new random users creating things.

{{SUBST:Signatures/Agent M}} 21:07, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I also can't get my signature with the tildes to work properly, so that's why I was inquiring about the custom signatures.

Vault Boy of Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics Edit

Hello my friend ;)

I also sent this message to Jspoelstra, so we combine our expertise for a small project.

Since you managed to put in black and white and transparent background all Vault Boy of Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas, I always thought it unfortunate that those of Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics were not so lucky.

Overall I have in my possession all the originals, but my expertise does not allow me to put the same quality and you have done. The best thing I can do without altering the original quality is putting them in black and white, with few pixel here and there.

Here are two examples of Vault Boy which I performed my operation, Cult of Personality and Mental Block:

Cult of Personality

Mental Block

Your skills are superior to mine and I don't use Adobe Photoshop, I wondered if you could succeed when they are in this form then they can put them in the same format as Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas, ie black and white with transparent background. If so, this would be great and we can replace all old Vault Boy by those, and I'll put them each time in black and white and you have more than done your operations.

What do you think my friend? Already don't sell the bear's skin, get what you can do better with these two images, but I'm sure you will succeed =).

Nice day my friend and see soon! Itachou [~talk~] 14:55, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well finally, thanks of Jspoelstra test and my test, and overall, I just saw that it would be better to leave them with a white background, the overall quality is much better and the quality of the base image can not allow no have enough quality to be properly placed on a transparent background.
I'm going to do it alone I think I do ;). See soon Ghost! Itachou [~talk~] 16:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you, but don't worry I'll take care of the remains by placing them in black and white with a white background. I also have some bonus and unpublished image (my computer is the Ali Baba's cave), with old Vault Boy in good quality and large enough, it's time to go out, with the 1st is Awareness ^^. Itachou [~talk~] 17:08, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

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