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Welcome to my talk-page.


I do hate it in America with that Expectation. I hear about people who are probably retarded or innocent being executed because they can't get over that hump of the presumption that the trier of fact wouldn't have been swayed by the new evidence to ensure that they definitely would have come to a different conclusion. However, we are blessed her that the stakes are a lot lower. A few hours inconvenience is regrettable, but its not the end of the world. This is a wiki, and when someone does something we don't agree with we are supposed to be talking it out, not just jumping the gun and presuming the other person was incorrect. Agent c (talk) 23:44, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Joining the Moose ? Edit

I am honored by your proposal. What do you have in mind?

  • A new project might do my heart good about now ~;)

Please just tell me what you would like me to do & I will put thought to it.

SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help." 05:53, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry I failed to keep the ovens warm & the charcoal red over there.

I have ideas

I will post them soon

If you wish me to do more please just ask & I will try.

( Embarrassment here.. I have been away too long ~ Um, What is the link to the Moose ? )

SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help." 21:52, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

Happy birthday!!Edit

SNM sign
You have been given a sign.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
I assume you already have a few signs, but 1 more can't hurt I guess :) Enjoy your day! Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 15:27, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Nate. <3 ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:02, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Nate? :p Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 22:17, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
I have no idea why, but when I first read this, I thought it was Dead Gunner. >.> Thank you, Peace. <3 ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:47, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Happy birthday Edit

I don't know if Facebook is right or not (I'm assuming it is), but happy birthday, Leon! Enjoy it because that number never gets smaller. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 20:58, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

I do not really celebrate my birthday anymore, but I am still doing what I can to enjoy today. :) Thank you for the wishes. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 22:02, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Oi Hay Brother ~ I just noticed ~ Congratulations are in order for your surviving planet Earth yet another year !!!

  • ~ I hope your next years are even better !

Be well & have fun M8 !!!

SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help." 21:42, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

Off the record Edit

Outside of my app, I want to explain my actions that day. The whole reason I called you an "asshole" is because you posted an entire Chat Log to Ever's talk page (which I saw, and did NOT take for face value) without even a heading. I saw this as bad form. I respect you Leon, and I hope that we can get past this.

Chat LogsEdit

Hi Leon,

In recent weeks you have referred multiple times to looking through the logs to examine what people are saying about you.

The logs are not intended to be used as a gossip-monitor. They are specifically created for investigating moderator and administrator use of tools in chat in the event of a dispute.

When GeckAnon was publishing logs of criticism against him we specifically termed this as a threat against the wiki. If the logs are being misused we may have to cease logging altogether, which would make investigating events such as your recent event more difficult.

As I have said numerous times of late, everyone gossips. Everyone criticises everyone. It happens in public chat, PM, Skype and elsewhere. And yes, sometimes it may even be considered at the level we would action as an "insult" if said to the face.

But this sort of gossip is normal human behaviour, it has occurred in every community since the dawn of communication, and is an important part of society and bonding, and may even help release stress.

Please, resist the temptation to use the logs for this purpose. Agent c (talk) 20:19, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Rather than engage you further on this, I am simply going to quote The Gunny.

I have made it abudandly clear that if the bot is used for what you are using it for I will turn it off. As such, your behaviour is now putting the wiki at risk. If the bot is withdrawn it makes investigation of potential power abuse impossible. The Gunny UserGunny chevrons 21:45, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

This is longstanding policy, I didn't even create it. I'm sorry if you feel this is "causing a problem". Agent c (talk) 20:45, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

If you want to play policies, fine. There is no such policy, just as there is no policy that says we can/will log. I'm sorry you consider removing the log to be "blackmail", but if it isnt used for the reason the Gunny and myself introduced it, we're forced to remove it. Agent c (talk) 21:03, June 25, 2014 (UTC)


You're taking this wiki a bit too seriously if you ask me. You've created a weak position for yourself by making a big deal out of a few hour chatban, using logs involving people all around and trying to countermand every comment on an aftermath forum thread. I've not even involved myself because I thought it of it all really rather pointless. Ban was lifted in a few hours and that should have been the end of the discussion. You should go more easy on things. If you want I can ask the main people involved (which user is Duncan?) giving it a rest, but you've got to work on that yourself too to make that happen. Might also be a good idea to take a break for a few weeks from the wiki, you sound somewhat stressed out from this. Take some rest, clear your head and try a more relaxed approach when you return. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:38, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Not sure what I can do about it other than asking a few people to lay off and act according to their position. Personally I'm not going to monitor the chat and be some police officer. Part of the problem is I think also people are bored after 2,5 years without anything new, done talking about the game and are looking for something else of interest to talk about it. You appearantly create the most spark, so you're a target and people like to talk bad. I understand it's become a general problem, so if you want, I could make a blog of the subject and hope it has some effect. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:31, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Leon, I'm just going to say 2 things at this moment. I an not actively ignoring you. This may suprise you but I am a very busy person currently working 6 days from 7, planning an overseas trip and juggling a life. If that means I do not respond when you expect, it means I am either a) busy or b) was busy when you asked and forgot about it. This wiki is not the central plank of my existence.

This is not some conspiracy against you. You may have noticed I'm not on as much. You may have noticed the news is always late. You may have even noticed there hasn't been a hole in months. I am not a robot. Agent c (talk) 18:29, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Now that I am home, and able to have a few minutes I will now address your points

I was almost banned not long ago because I was allegedly trolling via the chat-logs by saying "Hi, Mel!". Yet I have been told that there are multiple users in our chat constantly trolling me by saying "Hi, Leon!" in chat, with Chad actively in chat at these times advocating this behaviour without a second thought.

If you are refering to yesterday, then yes, your person and your actions were subject to critisism. However, I do not recall anyone saying "Hey Leon" or doing anything that would indicate that they are trying to use the logs as a message delivery system to you. I did see people communicating and joking with each other.

And actually, I did have a second thought, and a third one. But at all times the conversation was on the correct side of the line.

If you believe I erred, then I trust you will explain to Dead Gunner why you believe he should be permenently banned for engaging in similar behavior refering to Gunslinger.

As I told Gunslinger the other week:

We have a longstanding policy of not banning for insults whilst the user is not present, as it is seen as a part of the normal gossip/bitching i have outlined above.. However whilst there is potentially a point where this can be considered harrasment, this hasn't been met in this situation.
To be clear, Criticism of you and your recent actions is fair game. Just as it is for me and my actions.
If this turns into overt insults when you are present, or into trolling behaviour (again, when you are present, or if insults are left on the apparent belief that you will read the log and are intended as communication to you), then this is actionable. Criticism, and even jokes, about your actions when you are not present aren't ordinarily actionable.

As both I and Gunslinger were friends, I trust this also stands as a retort to any claims of bias against you.

It seems like every time my name is brought up, some chat user decides to go off on some tyrade and tell everybody about how awful of a person I am.

Leon, I dont think you intentionally want to be an awful person, but let me tell you how your choice of actions recently have left me.

You have seriously prejudiced my ability to do my job. I can no longer have a private communication with any user on this wiki in the expectation that it will remain private. You and every other regular know the rule that I don't share private communications with anyone without permission except in the most exceptional of circumstances.

You however have taken a private communication I had with another user, I do not know if you solicited or encouraged it or not, but I do know you redistrubuted it (and yes, I do know that persons name too). You have also used private communications with other members of the leadership team publicly without their permission.

These poor choices have yes, helped paint you as a pariah; but it is a paint job you have done yourself without any help from anyone else.

But three users in particular, seem to have enacted some campaign against me in chat, and these users are Chad, Ever, and Duncan

You need to stop inventing a conspiracy against you.

There is no "campaign". I vent because you and your actions upset me. The only communication I have with The Ever Ruler is in Public chat and we have no coordination of message. If he doesnt like you or your actions, he has come to those conclusions quite independently.

As for Duncan, until last Wednesday, I cant recall talking to him in private since before the Dead Gunner Vote. If he doesn't like you or your actions, they are again independently of me.

For something that doesn't bother you, you are showing an awful lot of signs that it does.

And I am already sick of this new development of a Bureaucrat willing to ban me for something it turned out I never did, yet refuses to lift a finger when other users do what I was almost banned for, simply because they are a part of his 'hate-Leon-doctrine.'

I've already addressed this so called conspiracy, and the willingness supposedly to ban you. However, I'm going to paint a very clear picture of what is, and isnt, actionable here.

People critising you and your actions when you are present: Potentially actionalble as Trolling and insulting behaviour if it is over the line.

People critising you and your actions when you are not present and there is no log: not ordinarily actionable, even if you have a screenshot.

People critising you and your actions when there is a log, but is done in just general communication between the active users: Not ordinarily actionable.

People leaving a message in the log that says something like "Hi Leon, I know you're reading this in the log, you're a (insult here)" - Actionable.

This is why none of those users you saw communicate yesterday, nor Dead Gunner, nor Jasper, have been banned. You have to either be present, or the user must be intending to use the log as a message delivery system to you. If they are not, then they are not communicating it to you, you are choosing to eavesdrop.

Requiring people to censor their own words to that degree in the fear that someone not present may be upset I do not believe is acceptable.

And the policies also clearly dictate that harassment is against the rules

You were not being harrased. The other users were simply communicating and joking between themselves.

I have had a Bureaucrat attempt to start a conspiracy to remove me from the wiki. Now, I have a different Bureaucrat that actively ignores me, such as with the latest topic I brought up on his talk-page that he specifically asked me to look into and now will not show be the common decency to answer me

Look leon, I'm going to be blunt here. You rub a lot of people the wrong way, if there is a conspiracy against you, its not a particularly effective one if its taken them this long to get to here, and well, done nothing against you.

{{quote|harasses me in chat in a way that puts multiple users banned in the past for harassment to shame, such as Liam]}

Liam deliberately povoked me, in chat, as a moderator/admin in an effort to get me to ban him. I fail to see any comparison.

Is this seriously what the wiki is becoming? A wiki where the Bureaucrats get away with shit that no other user would get away with? A wiki where our leaders are hypocrites that refuse to lift a finger against their friends, while doing everything in their power to ostracize those they have a personal disliking for?

I believe I have addressed this point. The behaviour you are railing about - critisism of you and your actions, other users are getting away with regarding other users.

I again refer you to the message I left Gunslinger, and the refusal to act on critism of him.

I just think I am done for now. I have been successfully made into a pariah, and I find myself often being forced to watch helplessly as events unfold in front of me

Leon, you were in the drivers seat. You did that. Noone else.

and seeing every word I say on this wiki being twisted to the point where everyone that sits in chat 24/7 can make me out as if I am some awful person

Really Leon? You haven't been engaging in a bit of that yourself against me?

In this case, I have users openly mocking/trolling me in chat via the chat-logs, using the exact same words you agreed were legible to ban me over, and yet you do nothing even when you are reported talking at the same time your friends are trolling me via the logs. This place has become so stifled with users that are afraid to lift a finger against their friends and leaders, and it is disillusioning to me.

Let me be blunt Leon. If Gunny hadn't resigned, you would likely have been banned for your log stunts for "endangering the wiki" as Geckanon almost was. There isn't the level of bias you believe there is, and I still am trying to find a way to reconcile your actions with good faith.

The words you allege were there I didn't see placed at all. What I saw was you not being trolled by the logs but were facing criticism for trolling them - this may have even included a bit of satire.

I am absolutely sick of it, and I am disgusted by you advocating and participating in this behaviour with your asinine logic that it is "...human nature...".

Leon, you bitch about people too, in Skype. Everyone does it, including you. Everyone hates it when others bitch about them.

Want to know what else is human nature? Murder. Rape. Racism. Sexism - the list goes on and on, yet I do not see you defending these

At the risk of sounding like tag.... that is a false equivalence falacy.

yet you are fully willing to allow our wiki to become such a toxic place that it makes me physically ill at times to see how people act here

which is not going to be solved by turning it into a police state where people can't say one negative thing without fear that someone is going to trawl through the logs to find it, or another user is going to take screenshots to earn brownie-points to some user who might be slighted by it. I am not going to turn this into some happy-clappy-only chatroom.

If you do not like yourself or your actions being open to criticism and satire, then don't do anything worth critiquing.

will continue my Moose activities here, but aside from that, I have no plans to become active here again until I see a proper leadership put back into place. I wish I could be a part of the solution, but it has become clear that there is not much I can do with the way matters are currently being handled here.

Leon, this is the "proper leadership". We do not give into the demands of one user because his feelings might be hurt. We do not turn the whole place into a police state. I'm sorry you're not happy with how "matters" are handled, but from where I'm sitting, the only added toxiticty I've seen is from users trying to earn points with you by screenshotting evidence for you to use against them, and you being upset with users for critiquing you, and then being upset we wont ban said users. If you want to be a part of the solution to the wiki problems, great, I'm all ears, but this us vs them vs leon division is not it. Agent c (talk) 19:35, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Leon, one day your complaining about threats, criticism of you, and "blackmail"; then the next day you are doing it all yourself.

You need to stop blaming everyone else for the position you find yourself in and instead ask yourself "what have I done that has lead us here". Agent c (talk) 07:44, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Leon, I've had enough. You've spent the last few months making groundless accusations against me. You have badmouthed me in public and private, and distributed copies of private communications to others to build a case against me, and then complained bitterly that others are supposedly doing the same about you.

You have insinuated bad faith about me for such inane reasons as not replying to a talk page message.

You have accused me of bias in refusing to ban those who critique you, when I refuse to do the same in favour of slinger and against a user it is widely assumed I am just looking for a reason to ban.

when I point out that I'll have to remove a tool that is being abused, or pointing out how another would view your actions differently, suddenly I'm engaging in threats and blackmail.

Really Leon. Tell me what you think I should take from all of this. Step outside your skin for a moment and tell me how you think I should read your actions and recent behaviour.

You have engaged in exactly the same behaviour that you accuse of others and are demanding action for.

So tell me. What do you think I should do? Agent c (talk) 13:03, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

  1. The logs are not there to act as your, or any other users personal NSA. The Log bot was introduced for one reason, and one reason alone, to allow for easier/better/neutral investigation of alleged moderator misconduct in chat. FOWChatbot was introduced purely for this reason, and Quality Control was Authorised (as per the chat rules) purely for this purposes.
    There have been a whole 2 cases in the last 6 months that I can recall where the chat logs were used correctly, one was in your case and the use of the logs ended up being immaterial - A copy of the active events was also provided by another user (As FOW's logs were questioned), and the issue would have been resolved (probably with less drama) when Slinger returned. The other issue was with Fireburn, and it was a fair ban, with screenshots potentially available. The logs have been misused more often than they have been used.
  2. Action has been taken. Since the temptation to misuse logs is too great, there are no no more logs. There is now no ability to use the logs as either a message delivery service, to troll, nor to eavesdrop. The problem is therefore solved.
    As for your other complaint, you made an allegation that a comment was said when I was active in chat and I have no recollection of it being made. You provided no evidence of it. Reluctantly I have decided to dive into the logs, and can confirm ever did indeed say that statement. Here is the full context

<code> (Previous comments refer to Geck Anon Returning) [2014-06-26 22:41:20] <The_Ever_Ruler> That guy who I thought was going to be cool but turned out to be a bit more hot headed than I had hoped for? [2014-06-26 22:41:21] <Mbc0102> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:24] <MountHail> He's back? [2014-06-26 22:41:26] <The_Enclave_General> what? [2014-06-26 22:41:29] <MountHail> Huzzah! [2014-06-26 22:41:30] <Agent_c> Geck anon is back [2014-06-26 22:41:31] <Ant2242> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:34] <ArchDornan55> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:38] <MountHail> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:41] <ArchDornan55> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:43] <The_Ever_Ruler> And who I also expect to read that in this chat log? [2014-06-26 22:41:47] <ArchDornan55> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:47] <Mbc0102> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:48] <Mbc0102> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:50] <MountHail> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:51] <Mbc0102> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:41:59] -!- Dead Gunner has left Special:Chat [2014-06-26 22:42:03] <Mbc0102> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:42:03] <The_Ever_Ruler> Well hell, Leon reads this things too... [2014-06-26 22:42:06] <The_Enclave_General> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:42:07] <ArchDornan55> (NonRelevant Comment) [2014-06-26 22:42:08] <The_Ever_Ruler> Hi Leon! o/ </code>

I'm not sure here if the comment meets the full definition of trolling when viewed in full context, but rather could be taken simply as satire. However, in any case, the removal of public logs in the future renders the situation moot. There can be no reoccurrence.

In any case, the argument that you claim gives you immunity - that there are no rules about using the logs in the way you have, also would protect Ever.

3. No, this is not correct. Quality Control was introduced to be our logger at Gunny's request and acceptance. He authorised it as per the chat rules for the purpose of specifically replacing FOWchatbot, it was a continuation of what came before (the actual transfer of this you have no knowledge of and seem to have jumped to conclusions). Indicating that we will stop making these logs can only be seen as "blackmail" if you believe the bot exists for your personal convenience, it doesn't, logging was introduced for ours to assist in specific cases, like power abuse, not for eavesdropping. Gunny had said multiple times that if the logs were used for the wrong purpose they would be removed, now they have. Your actions have been a part of this.

4. I have not become a "Completely different person", I am just no longer swayed by your tales of conspiracies against you every time someone does something or says something that you don't like. As I review the Skype logs, my private views are consistent with my public views.
I have helped you with your other project, and endorsed you using our site to help launch it, and provided you with assistance in easier management of twitter and starting of streaming. I've provided feedback on proposals you've brought, and cant see anything I agreed with there I didnt with in public. The only evidence I can see of me turning around and not supporting something I hadn't previously was when clyde saying "I'll think about it" became "Clyde refused to step down"'; as best as I can tell you're making this new allegation up completely. A full log only shows a breakdown in our friendship following the slinger incident, where I chose to block you for your inability to respect private communications. As for threatening, I again have no idea what you are talking about.

  1. On what I should do, you have completely missed the point. What should I do about the behaviours that you've been involved in? I hate to break it to you, but you are already centre stage in the strife you fear begin a part of, by continuing to assign me, and others, malice in our actions and accusing us of being part of conspiracies.

You do not let a kid pick on the other kids in class because "Boys will be boys", and if owned an apartment, you would kick out tenants that are upsetting the other tenants and causing others to leave entirely.

But thats just it Leon, you're not in the class. You're not in the apartment. You are somewhere else either reading the logs, or reading screenshots that you -know-who has decided to forward you for brownie points. If you were being picked on in class, yes, I would act. But teachers do not police what the "bad boys" say behind the bike sheds, They do not police what the girls giggle and gossip about in the library, and nor should they.

You saying otherwise is not going to change what I have heard from the majority, and we even had a user recently express his feelings on chat and how he wanted to take a break

The funny thing about the "Silent Majority" people claim support them in arguments is they never show up. No matter how widely you publicise the meeting, or even if you offer them free beer to show up.

Perhaps rather than look at Chris, you might to better looking more widely, and ask yourself, are your actions a key part of other users resigning recently?

Rather than try to frame everything as harassment, maybe you should ask yourself if what you have been doing - distributing PMs and screenshot to attack people, assuming the words, painting them in conspiracies in public and private, might be harassing behaviour?

In short Leon. Perhaps rather than blaming everyone else for everything that hasn't gone the way you liked recently, I think you need to go and have a chat with the man in the mirror. On this subject I am now completely done, and consider this book closed. If you want to continue it, you may do so without me. Agent c (talk) 20:21, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Canon Edit

While I recognize that teh DLCs are in fact canon, the number of choices that can influence the couriers race, in as much as human, cyborg, lobotomite, etc can largely be in part to the players choice. By playing OWB the Courier would become a lobotomite, or a cyborg depending on how one looks it. In the end the way I see it, Human works as a catchall term to describe the Courier's race. Richie9999 (talk) 06:41, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

You are also technically a lobotomite, without a choice. Again, human works as a catchall term for what the courier is. Richie9999 (talk) 06:46, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

ayy lmao Edit

ayyyy bruh dont let people hold ya down ya heard, i got love for ya bruh ya heard. Detroit lions Hawk da Barber 2013 - BSHU Graduate 08:29, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Richie Edit

Thanks. Agent c (talk) 00:30, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Sentinel Challenge: Steam Summer Sale Edit

The favorite Post-Apocalyptic game I bought during the sale was RAGE. --WrightEveryTime 02:53, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I do have an account, same as my username on the wiki. ( --WrightEveryTime 03:05, July 1, 2014 (UTC)


Leon, the wiki has had a nice week, traffic is back up, and everything appears calm.

If you want to contribute to a better environment, you need to stop.

Stop beating dead horses, stop finger pointing fora, stop trying to "fix" things.

Just stop. Relax. Let stuff go. Take a week or two where you don't even think about this place.

Then come back and don't even think about changing anything for a while. Just be a chilled passenger and participant for a few weeks.

I think you'll find the new perspective it gives refreshing. Agent c (talk) 12:27, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

If you must, but I reject your premise that we are on some bad track. The only problems I see around here is when people squabble over tiny little things. Agent c (talk) 20:50, July 5, 2014 (UTC)


I am present now. Please state the nature of the burecratic emergency. Agent c (talk) 22:14, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Those nifty Profile page sub-sections Edit

Hey Leon, I was wondering how do you put those sub-sections onto your profile, you know like the 'Tragic the garnering' and 'Skyrim' sub-sections you have? I wanted to have one so I could put my favourite Fallout series characters into and another one for Mass Effect characters too :)

Brandon Fox (talk) 16:10, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Wasteland 2Edit

I wonder, did you talk bringing the Wasteland wiki to over here with the Wasteland wiki's bureaucrat before you started a thread here? If not, I'd expect him to be unpleasantly surprised. He (and I think Wikia) would have to agree with a wiki redirect. But I believe the wiki's name is (or should be) strong enough to hold its own. It is a pity the wiki is working with outdated look and infoboxes and is probably not properly prepared for the new game. It is an interesting game, I played some Beta myself and did some work on the wiki, but bringing it over here is a step too far I'm afraid. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:29, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

A present from the Enclave Edit

Fo3BS Hellfire Power Armour
You have been given a suit of Advanced Hellfire Power Armor.
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
Figured you ought to have this for all your hard work combating the infernal New California Republic and Quaere Verum. The least I could do in repaying you for the both of us speaking as one voice, is treating you to a gift only a valued ally would receive and deserve. In other words, put this on, or people might start getting confused. :) Enclavesymbol 01:02, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Appreciate the backup edit Edit

Yeah, I'm absolutely horrible for those humongous run-on sentences when I'm in the state of mind I'm in right now (higher than a motherfucking satellite). xD

Hell, I may be bad for them when I'm sober, come to think of it. I'm not sure, but thank you much for the help either way. <3 Enclavesymbol 20:38, July 15, 2014 (UTC)


I'm more of a 6 kinda guy, anyway. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 18:33, July 18, 2014 (UTC)


Ah yes, he did, forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me. Energy X 17:16, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Real World StubsEdit

I don't think there has been enough of a response so far to suggest a consensus, so I was going to take it to vote rather soon. I suggest just leaving the infoboxes as they are for now. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 19:18, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

The HoleEdit

Hey, you are this week's VIP commentator of the Hole. Just leave your comment below here, so I can copy it. This week's battle is Barnaky vs. Melchior. Energy X 22:05, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

A super mutant that defies the basic law of the conservation of energy, Melchior is able to materialize everything from mole-rats to deathclaws from thin-air, to help him destroy his enemies. Already sporting an impressive hide that is able to withstand most attacks, his strength is also complimented by his deadly long-ranged Wattz 2000 laser rifle, which brings swift death from afar as his pets entrap their victims. How does one defy a super mutant that bends reality to his will?

All right, it has been added. Energy X 22:52, July 21, 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Enclave DoctorEdit

I read the acronym "NPC." Since "N" has a vowel sound, it would need an "an." This is unless you are trying to say that the acronym can't be read simply as "NPC" and must be read as "Non-player character." Is that what you're saying? 69.l25 (talk) 20:53, July 23, 2014 (UTC)

Then there's the answer: spell out "NPC" and replace "an" with "a". Okay with making that change? 69.l25 (talk)

Looking for that girl... Edit

Alright, enough with the Tim McGraw titles from me lol. Anywho, I had a question about SNM for you. If your in chat tomorrow night could ya ping me? :) RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Moderator..." Wiki 07:04, July 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: StreamEdit

Sure thing, let me get my other laptop running and I'll be in shortly. --MountHail (talk) 23:27, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE: SGP Edit

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I appologise, that message is the only left here because last time I talked about it on the GoT wiki, the user in questioned tried to perma-ban me for questioning him. I only leave this here so that QueenBuffy e-mails me (I forgot her e-mail). Don't worry, we won't start anything here. DRAEVAN13 22:45, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

   If past experience is any indication, highly unlikely. DRAEVAN13 22:51, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Template Edit

Hi, you just left me a message on my talk page that I created a template page that is used to work properly for signature templates. However why you just deleted it, I'm quite well editing across Wikia. --Lt. Allen talk 04:44, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

Cross wiki issues. Edit

Hi Leon,

Some recent actions of yours on another wiki have been brought to my attention. Could I respectfully ask you to refrain from using your (former) status here as some sort of trump card in arguments off cite.

I know you have been rather vigilant in the past in keeping off wiki conflicts away from Nukapedia, and I appreciate your efforts in continuing to do so.

In any case, I don't really see the value in it as each wiki has its own independent rules, and your experiences with the administrative side of this wiki is of limited relevance where other wikis choose to follow a separate path.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Agent c (talk) 23:46, August 8, 2014 (UTC)


I know, it's kinda weird this, don't really understand any of the info that's come through really. Basically Jspoelstra uploaded this dialogue file to the wiki some time ago (Epac12.msg). I saw it the other day, had a read through it, and then made the page for Kitsune and all the other stuff within it. User ayyyy  OfficialLolGuy  Talk  Blog  20:33, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, would be a shame if this is the case and they've gotta go. When J comes online, we should ask him more about it, as he was the one who uploaded the dialogue file, he'd probably know more about where it came from or how he came across it. User ayyyy  OfficialLolGuy  Talk  Blog  20:37, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

( I may have gone a bit ahead of myself there. I admit. The Kitsune dialogue is from the Restoration Project which I presumed was part of the cut content. But now I realize it's probably not. I based a lot on the the Fallout 2 cut content page and for example the EPA design document, but thinking about it, those images (which are beautiful by the way), dialogues and characters, or at least a good part of them, don't have involvement from the Fallout 2 developer's team and wouldn't be considered cut. So there's a mistake on my part. I added some good deal of Killap content on the wiki, and now then is the time to decide what we want to do. If we want to keep it, we have to adapt the policy for a exception for the Killap mod, or decide against it and just include the legit Fallout 2 cut content (not sure how that's determined) and remove everything that's not. So that would probably include all my images and item pages. But if that's the case, so be it. We would also need to check Fallout 2 quest pages for RP references. I'll talk it over with Clyde and Agent c and personally I think we can set up a discussion thread about it, then possibly a vote. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:16, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the support. It would be a shame to see a lot of it go. The bc's will talk it over and you'll hear where to go from here one of these days. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 01:10, August 23, 2014 (UTC)


Would have done it off the bat but didn't want to seem too trigger heavy on my first day. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 11:18, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Missed you Edit

Have you missed me? I sure have. :) 12:05, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Vault 106Edit

Yo Leon Although Console Commands aren't generally noteworthy outside of "the bugs section and on CC articles" I think this note -

"By using console commands to turn off clipping, a few unfinished areas which are inaccessible from the rest of the vault can be visited. These areas resemble server rooms, and computer terminals in the area can be accessed to read "A Note to Me". Several notes with this same name are distributed on multiple terminals in the area, and after reading a couple of them they all change to say "Forget it, I'm through talking to you." Suggesting that the notes themselves may have been part of another hallucination which never made the final cut."

would be noteworthy since it talks about cut content (specifically a number of notes, and an event where they all change to read the same thing) so would surly be notable under cut content, right? Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:17, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Well, no more or less verified than any other edit. I'd take their word for it for now, as it seems completely believable. Anyway, we would have to make a notes page for "A Note To Me" and if at that point we find that it doesn't exist, we'd remove it from the page. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:29, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

So you're saying that we don't have cut content noted on the location it was cut from? Even if it still remains to an extent in that location? Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:34, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

But the location is still Vault 106. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:39, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

But it is never stated to be a different cell. It is part of the same cell that can't be accessed because stuff is in the way. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:48, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

You cannot noclip from one interior cell to another, because all interior cells exist in their own worldspace (or are at least not adjacent to other interior cells). If you noclip out of the rooms in one cell and walk too far in to the void (in other words, try to leave the cell) you get teleported back to the middle of the cell. Since he says he was in Vault 106 and noclipped in to this part of 106 it must be in the same cell.

And no, we have a rule against clipping bugs, not clipping notes. And this is not a "clipping note", just a note that is achieved through clipping. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 12:59, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Digital Utopia has confirmed that it exists, and is "in the same cell as Vault 106 Living Quarters" (Vault106b). Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 13:01, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

CC on vault aticleEdit

nvm, i was going trough the recent edits from old to new and didn't see jasp already posted here. - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 12:33, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

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Only just saw what you posted on someone else's tp Edit

"We have hit a new milestone of having 234 unique hits in a single day! As a comparison, after nearly 2 decades of existence, No Mutants Allowed has had around 900 unique hits as their highest number in a single day."

Bwa ha ha, that's awesome dude! Go get 'em ;)

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Net Neutrality Edit

I'm glad we mostly agree (on yet another) subject. I honestly believe though, that not utilizing the Wiki to combat these changes is unethical. Because not speaking up about it as a whole unified community, is just as dangerous as not speaking up about it individually. As a whole unified group, we'd be twice as likely to be heard. Enclavesymbol 03:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Does - Kaldire♥those that know, will - mean anything to you? Edit

Sorry I never heard of that.. What is it ?

SaintPain TinySaintPainHere to help."


Leon, I have at no time had any discussion with any user on this wiki about what twitter feeds they follow, and could not give two shits if someone chose to follow the Moose.

I am tired of your public campaign of harassment and intimidation towards me, and that goes for whoever else may be covered by your choice of the Royal Pronoun. I am tired of the blackmail and the smears I face from you.

Such a blatant false accusation is not acceptable with your alleged claim to want "peaceful relations". It is one thing to accuse me of something when its at least based on an event that has happened in reality - even when you've stretched the truth to something completely unbelievable. Its another thing when you make up shit out of nowhere.

I come here to have fun and enjoy myself. I do not come here to face unfounded shit like the comment you posted on my talk page today.

Any repeat of this behaviour and I will be asking another admin to investigate whether or not administrative action should be taken.

In the meantime, I am demanding an apology for the smears you have posted today.

There is also no "distancing"of the official Nukapedia account from the moose. Enquiring whether or not anyone has discussed Nukapedia officially "being associated with" an event is not distancing ourselves, merely asking who made the decision (if anyone) to put our name and brand to an event - one would think I would be informed at least so it can be relayed on the news. As it turns out, it appears it had not been discussed at the admin level, nor at the community level - whilst affiliate status does imply a working relationship to comarket and coordinate media messaging, it isn't cart Blanche to attach our brand to anything at all.

Agent c (talk) 06:25, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I can't recall ever following your account, but I suppose such thing is possible. I monitor both SNM feeds throught the Tweetedeck application where I can also post to them using the credentials you and Chris gave me - if I in some way wanted to harm the moose I have a much more effective way of doing it.

If you're losing Twitter followers perhaps it speaks more to the content you are tweeting than some conspiracy from me.

if you want to give a date/time of the alleged incident I'll investigate this as a possible security breach. In the meantime, I am tired of you, here and elsewhere, trying to cast me in the role of Moriarty in this ameteur production of Sherlock Holmes. Please inform the same to whomever it is you presume to speak for when you use the royal prounoun, and those other I an certain you are blackening my name in private to. Agent c (talk) 11:58, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I'm done with you Leon.

No such event happened. I haven't unfollowed anyone since you setup your moose account, neither has the NukaPedia Twitter.

If you would like to discuss this further then I want a clear, unconditional apology for your false accusation today. None of this "I'm sorry if I'm wrong but". You *are* wrong and you *have* jumped the gun.

Failing that, please have another member of the moose liason if you are unwilling to do this.

I am tired of what seems to be a campaign of Harrasment from you, and an attempt to create some false narrative about me. I am not you moriarty, go play that game with someone else. Agent c (talk) 12:14, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Leon, the only communication we've had in months is you attacking me for one thing or another. You've insisted I've done things or acted against you when frankly I ave done nothing - I CANT EVEN GET 5 HOURS SLEEP WITHOUT YOU DECIDING ITS PROOF OF BAD FAITH!. It hasn't even occurred to you that someone else who unfollowed has access to that account. Until or unless you are willing to apologise for your defamitory communications and your breach of the "assume good faith" directive, I have nothing more to say to you. Agent c (talk) 12:41, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Leon. I've been told by someone else who you believe has unfollowed you. Look at that list again, someone there has access to the NukaPedia account. Since you I sist on playing Sherlock, you can work it out for your damn self. Now cease communicating with me unless it's in the form of a clear, unequivocal apology. Agent c (talk) 12:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I refer you to my previous statements. If you cannot apologise, please ask another member of the moose team to liason. Agent c (talk) 13:06, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

How I see it, all this could have be avoided if you had taken a different approach in contacting Agent c about it in the first place. You always go in all guns blazing, no holding back. With such serious accusations you always should be careful with words, especially when you don't have ironclad proof of wrongdoing. Better to ask instead of accusing immediately, and then you can go from there. In the way of "I saw Nukapedia unfollowing the Moose, do you anything more about it? I'd like to investigate the matter". That's already a much better approach. Now you're damaging the relationship in almost one sentence. You can see it in Chad's response, I think that bothers him a lot the way you did it. Reading his responses after that, I'm convinced he didn't do things you say, at least not on purpose. If you don't want to apologize, then I suggest a different contact between him and the SNM if he wants that. Otherwise it's pretty much done between you and him I think. Or you can try to restore some damage. I'll leave it to you. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:37, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

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