This User smells sedition....

Look I’m tracin’ ya right now, pal. Any second now, and I’ll have internal security all over yer freakin’ ass… Dickhead.--Eden2012 (talk) 17:29, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Video Edit

As good as the Mass Effect soundtrack is, I'm afraid you can't upload videos to your user page to be used, as it says here. Feel free to use the Youtube extension though, an explanation of that is also on that policy page. Thanks. --^Talk 10:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that, didn't realize it was against the rules. Won't happen again.--Eden2012 (talk) 10:39, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

VideoEdit

By policy you are to use embbed videos. If you have any questions see ma talk page. Energy X ∞ 10:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to intrude, but you can still keep your video as long as you put <youtube>olQSBu3glAE</youtube>. Of course, you'll have to put your own video in there. Just get the URL of the Youtube video you want, and copy the jumble of letters at the end of it between where it says Youtube, like I've done. Enjoy. 11:49, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Herr PresidentEdit

{293}{prs62}{Not at all. Look to the future. Sure muties and men could get along for a while, but before you know it, the numeric pressure of your kind would tell. No, a line must be drawn in the sand - the buck stops here.} <- Richardson
{294}{}{What do you intend to do about this so called threat?} <- Chosen One
{295}{}{I don't have time to listen to your bigoted, mad ravings. Goodbye.}
{296}{prs63}{The government of the United States of America has been working towards a solution for quite some time.} <- Richardson again

From Qhprzrch.msg. Nitty ^Tok. 08:40, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

And where does the word 'Final' come into play exactly?--Eden2012 (talk) 08:42, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

{243}{}{Altered the virus? Why?}
{244}{prs43}{To turn it into a staggeringly effective killer. Any humanoid that isn't inoculated against its effects before its release, will die. That is the Project.}
{245}{}{That's insane.} {246}{prs43a}{No, no. That's humanity's last, best, hope. That's what we've been working towards all these years.}

{265}{prs50}{You can't stop it. The tests are complete and the toxin is ready for release. In hours, your villagers will be the first to make the ultimate sacrifice. The other mutants will follow. An unfortunate footnote in the continuing history of the human race.}

{267}{prs51}{Oh, I don't relish this decision. If there was another way- but there isn't. No price is too high for the survival of the human race. you were human, you'd feel the same way.}

{298}{prs64}{I assure you, I'm quite sane, as is everyone on the Project. We're dedicated to the salvation of the human race. You can call single-minded dedication to a cause madness, I suppose, but if so, it's divine madness.}

I hate that line break template. Nitty ^Tok. 08:46, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Right, now would you mind showing me where the word 'Final' is? Better yet, where 'Final Solution' is directly stated rather than the Project?--Eden2012 (talk) 08:51, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

You don't really get this whole 'Hmm, maybe I shouldn't sass the admin and should take a look at his legitimate concerns' thing, do you? I'm not joking with you, the last time somebody made all sorts of pro-Aryan, pro-genocide comments (or implications thereof) it wasn't pretty. :/ Nitty ^Tok. 08:56, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

And that would have some merit if, a: you had any proof whatsoever that I was implying pro-Aryan/pro-genocide beliefs other than my subjective beliefs within a video game and it's fictional universe, and b: you were an active admin rather than an inactive one, and c: you acted like one. Cease the harassment.--Eden2012 (talk) 09:06, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

I hate to say Eden but he is right. Even though it is a video game, taunting to pro-genocidal tendencies of the Enclave sounds kinda bad. And regardless if he is active or inactive he is nevertheless and admin and still deserves your respect.--Kingclyde (talk) 06:24, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

I've not seen any effort made by Nitpicker to respect me quite honestly, I respect those who respect me. All I've seen is his effort to scare me into accepting his opinion by holding a ban over my head and practically threatening me with it for fixing the ridiculous and inaccurate Nazi mentions in the Enclave article.

Differing philosophies isn't a crime, differing opinions isn't anything new nor is anything wrong with it. I'm not sure where this became a matter of right and wrong. In any case, I thought this situation was long over with.-- 11:56, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Enclave ReportsEdit

You have caught my attention, Eden. I completely enjoyed reading your blog post on the Enclave. I am an Enclave Scientist, and without taking the spotlight, lets just say I'm actively making the Enclave real in our world. But this message is for you! You did a great job, and I thought I would applaud you on it. I'll be looking forward to more from you.

Legacy Technology, signing out.

I am Legacy Tech. (talk) 23:45, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Commendable work my friend. I appreciate your kindness. For America!--Eden2012 (talk) 22:22, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ban Edit

-sigh- I was really hoping it wouldn't come to this. But you have acted in clear defiance to my order. 3 times, in fact. In response to this, I am forced to give you a 3-day ban for continually attempting to censor the community here at Nukapedia. I hope you can come back after your ban with a better ability to handle criticism. I also expect you to show a little more respect when an Admin tells you that you're doing something wrong. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 01:31, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

I will do so, when it's underlined in the rules. I'm not wrong for having an opinion in a fictional universe. Period.--Eden2012 (talk) 02:05, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Gunny explained the situation with me, and I have agreed to just let you off with a warning this time, seeing as in how this is your first real incident. However, I want to ask you to respect the rules around here, and when an Admin asks you to abide by them. It also would have helped if you would have explained the situation to me, instead of me having to hear it from a secondary source after I was forced to ban you. Anyways, I'll be lifting your ban now. I'll be here hoping it stays that way. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:06, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

It is in the rules. Everything uploaded to Wikia belongs to Wikia. So actions like locking a page, or even just commenting is censoring the community. You have to remember that just because you put up a blog, doesn't mean that it's yours, and that you can do whatever pleases you. Locking the commenting option is an absolute possibility. But it needs a good reason first; not just because you don't feel like continuing a legitimate conversation. So your opinion comment goes both ways. I respect that you have your own opinion. So how about respecting ours? ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:08, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

It was no longer a legitimate conversation. I don't even feel the need to justify that. I do respect others opinions, and that was the reason for making the blog in the first place as I said previously, to get other opinions. My opinion was not being respected by a few individuals. Call it censorship, but further blogs from myself will have comments disabled for that very reason.--Eden2012 (talk) 02:14, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Locking a page right off the bat is fine. The community has never become involved, and so removing commenting is not censoring any conversations. Although, for that, it'd be a lot more convenient for you to create a sandbox. You are not to lock your current blog though. I hope you can understand that. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:18, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

When I've determined that locking a blog of my own creations comments is against the rules just because it has comments on it, I'll do so. Please, enforce -the- rules and not the rules of your own making. Thanks.--Eden2012 (talk) 02:21, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

The blog post is yours, but the comments are not. When you have allowed commenting in the first place and comments start coming in and debates initiate, you may not stop the commenting then. And please, I do not have to respect your opinions. I do respect your right to an opinion, but that does not mean I must respect your opinion itself. The same goes for you too, you do not need to respect my opinions themselves. --Skire (talk) 02:29, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

You're quite the belligerent one... I'm going to give you an ultimatum: I'm going to look at your recent blog in about 5 minutes after I get done calling my friend. If it's locked, I will be reinstating your ban, and increasing it to a week. That's it. Final. I won't respond any further, and I expect you to abide by this very simple rule. You can keep saying it's not one, but that's not really my problem. Like I said before, nothing you put on here at Wikia is yours. It'd be good for you to remember that. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:33, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Really? Because it's the good word of two non-admins and three other admins that I've done nothing wrong. You clearly don't communicate with your fellow admins often, at all. I'm a member of the Vault, not a member or contributor to Wikia. Belligerent?

You'll have to excuse my being upset just a tad with being wrongly banned, and then rightly unbanned only to still be bug banned by the wrongly enacted ban. Not to mention my blog being derailed entirely by the both of you primarily. The comments will be disabled, and unless the friendly agreeable admins that you two are show me where this is a rule of the Vault, they'll... still be disabled. There's no reason to carry this on any longer.--Eden2012 (talk) 02:42, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Woah there leon. Whethere or not a rule is a rule is your problem. You can't enforce a rule that does not exist. I've been trying to stay out of this, but I think this is going too far now. The closest I can find is an administration policy that says "User pages may be protected at the request of the respective user." and Pages in the "User" namespace are generally considered to be the property of the user they belong to. You can put whatever you like on your user pages (as long as you do not violate common rules of decency or insult other users) and nobody else is allowed to edit without your permission. In turn, you may not edit other users' user pages without their permission either. which would seem to leave it up to Eden. Agent c (talk) 02:38, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

• As seen in his comments, he's obviously flamebaiting, and very disrespectful to anyone who doesn't share his views.
• It is clearly stated in the ToU that everything uploaded to Wikia belongs to Wikia. Images, videos, and content that are uploaded in violation of the original creator's consent is still legally recorded here, and can be used by Wikia at any time. (The uploader may still be punished, depending on local and international laws.) So once he uploads something here, and the community becomes involved, it becomes an affair that is outside of his control. If it's a spam blog, it can be deleted. If the blog is old enough without any activity, or if something extreme happens that threatens the wiki's stability, it can be deleted or have commenting disabled. Not just because he got butthurt.
• Locking a blog just because you don't agree with someone's opinion is not okay.
• Mocking and refusing to listen to two Administrators is also not okay.
  • Trying to talk about this civilly would have worked better. He has not even attempted this. He has jumped straight to flatly telling us no, and that he can do whatever he pleases.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:47, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Butthurt, what a civil and admin thing to say. I've got nothing further to say to you.--Eden2012 (talk) 02:52, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

It is clearly in his userspace, and thus as per the guidelines, is up to him. If the community want to respond, they have the option of creating their own blogs, rather than effectively editing his page without permission. The published rules seem clear here, and I see no rule published to support you blocking his blocking of comments. Agent c (talk) 02:50, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

That first quote of yours I cannot find in the policies. If it's there, then we need to possibly change it to fit overall Wikia policies. Halo Nation might be able to get away with breaking the ToU, but I'd rather us not. As for your second quote, I'd like to point out that this is a violation of common decency. He just locked a page from a community that was showing interest in that blog, just because he didn't like having his opinions challenged. That's mighty selfish and low. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:52, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

To me, the matter is quite simple. To cease comments amidst a debate or discussion is simple disruption. Disruptive behaviour may warrant disciplinary action. Like I previously stated, the creator of a blog post has only the option of turning comments on or off upon the blog's creation or before its first comment. After that, since there are comments, it is out of the blog creator's control. --Skire (talk) 02:48, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just going to leave this here and here. I think we ALL need to look at it so we ALL have the same preconception of the ban/blocking rules. -- ^{"This is my road, you'll walk it as I say"} 02:50, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

This doesn't serve much real purpose, the rules are up to interpretation. What we have in our policies serves as a general basis for determining administrative action, it doesn't list every specific instance. --Skire (talk) 02:55, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Quote 1, I had the wrong link but is now corrected, its the page protection policy. Quote 2 is the paragraph on the page linked under "user pages". Yes, unlike halo nation we do not ignore the TOU, but we also can only enforce the rules of the site, and cannot make up our own. Now a ban maybe for the butthurt comment, I can see maybe an action for that - maybe - but this banning for what is effectively protecting a page in his own userspace is protected by the rules. Agent c (talk) 03:02, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reasons Edit

Since we're throwing policies around, I suppose I'll do so as well:

• "Most pages should remain unprotected and allow editing by both anonymous and registered users."
• "User pages may be deleted at the request of the user they belong to." Notice the word may?
  • This, conjoined with the first quote shows that pages should only be restricted if it's absolutely necessary.
• "User pages may be protected at the request of the respective user."
  • User-Pages are an entirely separate entity from the blog feature. Blogs are clearly stated to be a community tool, which is why it has its own unique comment(s) section. If he didn't want anyone discussing anything on his page, he should have added his thoughts into a sandbox, where he can do almost do anything he wants with it. There's a reason why we have sandboxes, the fora, and blogs.
• "Be polite: It's not only important what you say but also how you say it. Be civil when talking to other people and treat them with respect. This site is built on cooperation."
  • Eden here hasn't tried once to settle this matter civilly. I asked him not to lock the commenting. He mocked me, went to locking the page two more times, and has continued to act in arrogance over his talk-page.
• "Do not edit other people's comments: Editing or removing other peoples' remarks in the forum, on discussion pages, or their personal user page is considered bad behavior. Post your own thoughts on the talk pages, and leave others to their own."
  • Last time I checked, the blog space is a discussion page, and is not yours or another user's talk-page. Disrupting a community discussion that was going on between many different users is not okay. Especially when he did not have a reason to do so.
• "Don't flame: Comments intended to provoke other users (flamebait) or insulting them outright (flaming) will be deleted by the staff and may be grounds for blocking."
• "Don't be rude: Excessive rudeness to other posters (whether they are anonymous or not) is not welcome. Such comments will be deleted and may be grounds for blocking."

^{Some Assembly Required!} 03:04, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Leon, please stop. Its borderline harassment now. I know you mean well, but please take a step back and look at how you're acting. Locking a blog post is not in breach of rules, end of story. 03:12, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

the use of may there I think is Synonimous with "Can" or "Will". It doesnt seem to give any guideline for not doing so. In any case, its not the issue.

The space area still begins with user, and this policy I believe pre dates the blog feature. No specific rules have been written for the blogspace, so it seems only natal that the main user space ones continue over.

Whether or not he was polite I wont address. My issue us I believe you're enforcing a rule that doesn't exist, and is in contravention with policy. I agree that Eden is not helping his own cause, but I can understand that he's feeling a little frustrated.

Actually I think he did try and solve the matter civily. He locked the thread to comments to prevent further disruption and what he felt was derailing. He did seek advice as to whether or not he was permitted to lock it, and at :least one administrator has believed that it is okay (note, this is not me, and I think you're "Making crap up" line is not helpful, nor respectful.

At this point, it may be worthwhile you joining us in chat so we can resolve this issue quickly. Agent c (talk) 03:15, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

That's way too dismissive, Yessie. How is it not against the rules to perform such a disruptive action? (See my above comments)? And Leon has done nothing wrong and his behaviour is what I'd expect from someone that has the site's well-being in mind. --Skire (talk) 03:16, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to join chat when you're interested in resolving this matter like adults.--Eden2012 (talk) 03:23, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

I would like to point out that he's not even banned. :P In fact, the only reason this got out of hand is because everyone and their brother decided to jump into this and throw in their two cents. These sorts of things don't become such a big deal until everyone decides they want a piece of the action. The truth of the matter is, overall Wikia policies trumps ours. If we have a policy that violates the ToU, then I'm going to consider it null and in need of a re-write. Now, he did not handle this civilly. We were having a debate. I expressed my concern over parts of his belief. Neither me nor Sigma insulted him in any way. He then starts throwing accusations that we did insult him. We prove otherwise, he makes false accusations again of how I called him a Nazi, even though I did not, and then proceeded to lock the blog down just because he didn't have control anymore, and he wasn't able to argue his points further. So not only was he entirely rude, but he also just shut down a community discussion hub where many users here at Nukapedia were partaking in. So not only is he showing disrespect just because we didn't agree with his views, but now he's also robbing a seemingly popular blog from the people who were interested enough to participate. And no, no one is going to create a blog with the specific intent of responding to something on a locked blog. Point out one instance of this happening, and I'll drop this whole thing. Also, Chad, the word may is an auxiliary verb. It has no definitive point, and using it expresses that the reaction can go in any direction. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 03:26, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

I am just dropping this matter. I have a feeling people aren't going to let this go, and to be frank, I don't currently have the time to deal with this. I am still remaining adamant on my belief, though. Locking a blog just because your pride has been dented is not okay behaviour. Especially so when any blog added here becomes part of the community; not the individual. Consider this matter closed and done with. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 03:38, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, however context does matter here. A user may decide delete their page, a user may decide not to delete their page. Now if you want to block him for being rude, or insults, then fair enough, there are rules for that, but there is no rule in either Nukapedia policies, or even in the TOU that you've quoted that I can see that covers this. Bans were threatened, and at one point actioned for this comment blocking. I think its time to call in a third party to clarify what the sitation is. Agent c (talk) 03:35, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

Sincerely,

Nuclear_Joe

GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!

God bless us, every one! America will be reborn, it is inevitable.--Eden2012 (talk) 15:50, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

 ? Edit

Hey i just wanna know why i got banned from the chat room earlier today? I did nothing wrong and it wont let me back in. Please let me know why. Thanks Swingingmybat (talk) 07:56, September 11, 2012 (UTC)Swingingmybat

I don't have the slightest clue, I'd take it up with one of the chat moderators because it's really none of my business and I'd rather not be brought into it.-- 08:04, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Federal government Edit

Undoing each other's actions over and over again is extremely counter-productive, and really, just plain immature. Next time, seek mediation instead of mashing the undo button with no discussion at all. I've locked that page for 3 days. ~ Toci ~ ^{Go ahead, make my day.} 05:11, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, I just didn't see the purpose in undoing a perfectly good quote that, imo, gave the article more emphasis. I'll seek advice for now on though, and I apologize again.-- 13:13, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I agree with Tagz in that it doesn't say anything about the federal government and seems to just be a quote for a quote's sake. I don't agree with the way he handled this, but I think he's right. ~ Toci ~ ^{Go ahead, make my day.} 13:54, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

"Becasue it isn't a quote made by anyone related to the actual, pre-War federal government."

I can't say I do, I could have told you that response before he did frankly. The subjective reasoning for it lies in the emphasizing comma he put after actual, but okay.-- 17:20, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Couple of thingsEdit

First; Do you mind if I copy this youtube template onto my talk page? Second, You are now being offered a job in my enclave. Would you like to be one of my congressmen? ^{"Hail to the Pigeon!"} 05:41, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

By all means, feel free. And, I would be honored.-- 13:14, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Templates for your new position. Edit

Hope you enjoy your position!

This user is a congressman in the Enclave.

This user is pigeon approved

^{"Hail to the Pigeon!"} 22:59, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

I will not fail in my duties. For the Enclave, for America!-- 23:06, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Example Edit

<center>A present, just for you!</center>

* Some assembly required. * Because of your actions, the Enclave Administration has either banished you from chat, or you've been banished from this wiki entirely. Please read up on our chat rules & our policies and guidelines. The responsibility of knowing how long your banishment is and when to come back is solely on you. Ban Length & Reason: 0-day ban for Blargle Hargle If you have any questions and/or concerns after your banishment, feel free to express them on my talk-page. Alternatively, you can leave a message for any of our active administrators or moderators.

The White WashEdit

Eden, i need a hand, i've found out a problem with the white wash on the quick walkthrough thingy, so i edited it but its all fucked up. Could you fix it?

^{"Editing With Triple S Technology!"}

Sure, I'll try.-- 10:56, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

To Eden2012Edit

The Enclave have good intentions but there methods are brutal and unethical. They want bring back America but America never left. So all the people they unjustly killed claiming them to be muties are actually American citizens. The Enclave aren't evil they just don't know the difference between Meta Humans and Human beings. Maybe they lived on that oil rig to long who knows. Good luck with your cause my friend I support your cause but not your actions. POWERED ARMORED BOYSCOUTS FOR LIFE!!!--KnightAce (talk) 21:30, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

The Enclave is not deadEdit

It may not be my cup of tea, but its all true. POWER ARMORED BOY SCOUTS FOR LIFE!!!--KnightAce (talk) 01:14, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Paragraph 1:"It's come to my attention that quite a bit of fellow Fallout fans seem to have convinced themselves that the Enclave is dead due to two losses throughout the course of two games."

The Enclave from the Poseidon Oil Rig yes, that distinct 'enclave' of fascism lost the west then moved to Raven Rock to begin again. Due to Bethesda’s linear gameplay it can be assumed that this didn't go well. "Some members of the Enclave retreated to remote locations in other parts of the world, but when the bombs hit, they lost all contact with the main group."<Refrencing> Fallout Bible 0

Paragraph 2: “Even more so I find this to be a bit selfish. We haven't been given the chance to join the Enclave yet... unlike practically every single faction in Fallout including the UNITY, which would effectively destroy all of humanity slowly but surely unlike anything the Enclave has attempted.”

Again Bethesda’s writing.

Paragraph 3: “'Too late, they're dead.' How is this not a selfish outlook, exactly?”

Not selfish, just not informed/miscomprehended that there is more than one ‘Enclave’ (again the term) of this pre-War shadow government.

“How many players have sought for an option to join the Enclave? I'd wager a lot more than those that claim the Enclave is dead, frankly.”

It doesn’t matter how many want this (though I disagree about the number), again misinformed/miscomprehended) a RPG or Role Playing Game needs to be at the command of the players choices not pre-scripted by writers beforehand.

“In the interest of fairness, it's ridiculous an option hasn't been given when in the very first Fallout you're given the option to stand down and join the Master and his goal of total doom.”

Agreed it should be your choice not someone else’s.

Paragraph 4:” Joining the President of the United States in the course of two games? Hell to the no. Why... why is this?”

Only due to writing laziness.

Paragraph 5:“They have the means to give still occupied Vaults the all clear, disperse modified FEV throughout the -entire planet-, construct and use Vertibirds as well as multiple models of Advanced Power Armor, call down ICBM's on Transformers...”

Give me at least one reference to them being able to produce Vertibirds. Yes they can produce power armor, it may have taken more lives than years (and it took a lot of years) but they did it. Also they can call down ICBMs but anyone who can access the same weapons systems can do the same.

See: Ghoul scientist and Highwater-Trousers

Paragraph 6:” This would be -the- faction to align with in all honesty. “

Your opinion.

It is because of their near-unlimited amounts of resources from the pre-war era that makes them so powerful, and yet it is their limited manpower that makes them so vulnerable. I see that issue easily corrected.”

They don’t have near-unlimited resources of the pre-War era. They have access to most the technical data yes, but they are still scavenging the resources like everyone else.

Paragraph 7:” And yet, we have... what, 47 states and who knows how many Commonwealths yet to be revealed and theirs already claims that the remnants of the U.S government is totally eradicated because... they lost in two sequels?”

Not all, just the main group (of remnants of the pre-War conspiratorial/shadow government and military industrial complex VIPs).

Paragraph 9:” The Enclave is not dead. If they are, and we're going by this same logic declaring them to be, then so is the NCR in New Vegas if the Courier assassinated President Kimball and/or assisted the Legion. Or so is the Legion if the Courier assassinated Caesar and/or helped the NCR.”

Not the NCR they should have a chain of command if the President is assassinated, something similar to the pre-War government. Also it’s said by many knowledgeable people that if Kimball is assassinated he would become a martyr for the Mojave Campaign.

Yes the Legion. Caesar’s Legion follows Caesar not any sort of shared culture. When he dies the Legion falls apart. And yes this is referenced many times by many different people.

Now let’s talk about your images. Not the quality, the context. Your images are spectacularly well done.

“Aiming for a better tomorrow today”

Yes, if by that you mean he’s aiming at you then yes. Fire away with that slogan and image. (Pun intended!)

“Remember a clean workspace is a safe workspace!”

“Together… for Victory”

“Delta labs Working hard for you! Cause you’re fighting hard for all of us!” (My comment: “US”) and

“STOP Idle chatter Enemy ears could be listening…”

All well done.

“Real Solders Obey Orders”

I COMPLETELY disagree solders shouldn’t follow orders blindly.

Like the Trail of Tears and the Holocaust they were certainly, “--Just --Following --Orders—“

“Doing what must be done… to purify humanity” and

“Marching toward a purer America”

What’s the response you’re expecting of these? “Zig Hail!” Or perhaps “Yea I agree let’s kill all the impure.”

“The human race needs you!”

Beside the homage to Uncle Sam (he was originally against war by the way), I doubt your definition of “Human” is the same as most peoples’.

“Holding the high ground.”

Defiantly not morally. And Finally

“Patriotism means no questions”

No the definition for Patriotism is: “devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.” Not shut up I’m in charge here! --Ant2242 (talk) 02:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC) P.S. Eden I just noticed you should put a notice that all responses should be on your talk page.--Ant2242 (talk) 01:18, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Troll Edit

I understand trolls can be frustrating, but please keep it professional in the edit summaries.-- 15:06, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, it was just an incredibly childish graffiti attempt, trolling used to mean something. I apologize, the immaturity just got a bit under my skin.-- 15:12, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Personal images Edit

	Hello Eden2012,  Please remember to add the category [[Category:User page images]] to all images you upload for personal use. You should take this opportunity to completely familiarize yourself with Nukapedia's user policies and content guidelines, if you have not yet done so.
	The Gunny   18:49, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

IdeaEdit

So I have idea for the Enclave. As you've made, people sign the 'Enclave Members' Section on your profile but besides that, they should have to state their Character's name and then their username.

If you wanted to, you could go even further and have them right a Infobox on their character, either kept on their profile, or make a blog that you edit to post the members of the enclave. Or I can do that for you. Your choice.

Oh yeah Inappropiate Pack items added to inventory - MattoSnap (talk) 06:29, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Once we have enough people interested, I think I just might make a free for all blog for all those who join or want to join to do what they wish with it, but in respectable moderation and neatness. That way we could have a consistent way of keeping a consensus and maintaining numbers. It's just starting out for now, we should slow our role for now at least until we receive more sympathizers and/or members. -- 06:59, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

Enclave Edit

So I see you're founding a new Enclave. As you can see from my user page, my character is a level 50 monstrosity who is maxed out in everything. My unbridled charisma and intense survival skills make me the ideal candidate for...Ambassador of the Wastes! I guarantee an uptick in support from wastelanders everywhere and the immediate execution of any and all dissenting voices. Choose me in good faith my fellow comrade! 02:08, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

You're hired. -- 02:17, October 9, 2012 (UTC)

Friendly advice Edit

Hi Eden, just a note on that comment on the poll blog, and I know you know the one I mean. If it wasn't over the line, it was close to it. I know it's an emotive issue, but you need to make sure you're arguing the argument, and if you must the behaviour, don't argue the person. Avoid anything that might look like a personal insult. Agent c (talk) 09:58, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think I did step over the line a bit, and I think an apology is in order. Thanks for the advice in any case, I let my pissed off state get the better of me though. -- 10:31, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Comments on my talk page Edit

I have made a general response to all the comments on my talk page there. The Gunny   20:50, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Come to chat, i need to talk to you. Couldn't be bothered doing my good sig or date and time

Dwellersims (talk) 09:25, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Profligate! Get on the chat! ;D ^{"Veni Vidi Vici"} 00:42, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Profligate! Get on the chat! ;D ^{"Veni Vidi Vici"} 00:43, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Profligate! Get on the chat! ;D ^{"Veni Vidi Vici"} 00:44, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Fine, since you asked so nicely. :P-- 03:04, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Don't let them bait you Edit

I'll admit "I GOT HUGE ANGER ISSUES". I'm on meds and I see VA therapists no less than once a month.

So please hear me! I understand how things can get out of control.

I don't want to see you walk into traffic because some punktard across the street wants to watch you die.

• When you get angry & you feel taunted. Please just take a moment. Let it UN*unravel..

Take a breath and allow those who would be your enemies time to chew on their own bad karma.

Taking a time out "by your own accord" This dose not make you pussy. It shows you can be man enough to out live your enemies.

You are not alone, like I said, I got anger issues to. Give your self a break.

• sleep it off don't give them an excuse to ban you.

Have fun & I hope to see you here tomorrow brother. I feel your pain.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 09:28, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Not sure what advice to give there, have you tried reporting to wikia? Agent c (talk) 03:37, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Obstructive signature pictureEdit

Hello Eden2012,  your signature image is outside the parameters established by the User Conduct Guidelines, as it defines the image's maximum height as being 20 pixels. Please make it compliant by adding the |x20px parameter to the signature code, or by resizing the source image. You should take this opportunity to completely familiarize yourself with Nukapedia's user policies and content guidelines, if you have not yet done so.

Limmiegirl Talk! ♪ 03:14, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Edit war Edit

Paladin made sure to point out to me that you only removed the information once, so you did nothing wrong in this incident. However, I would still like for you three to get together to talk this through so we can figure out how best to treat this situation. Whether we should let it remain, remove it, or slightly re-word it so it makes both parties happy. In any case, I am just tired of seeing all of this arguing over such minor issues. I'd rather see this become a rational debate where we can actually gain results instead of further animosity. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 14:46, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

There is absolutely no rational reason to leave what I originally removed intact in my honest opinion, it reflects on the quality of Nukapedia's editors and the quality of Nukapedia itself as simple fanboys relying on subjectivism in relaying Fallout information. We are not No Mutants Allowed, the type of bias Paladin and I fixed is a stain that needs cleaned vigilantly.

The irrelevant, opinionated, stated 'This location is the best because it's the best(!!!)', versus the nitty gritty factual 'this is the location of Fallout and Fallout 2' is what we're dealing with here. Personally, I believe Tag is so offended because the notion that a jab can't be taken under the auspice of stating, not proving mind you, the originals' superiority in every single conceivable way compared to Fallout 3 ever so subtly is unacceptable.

This is why he locked the article, because someone caught onto an inconsistency he obviously approved of so passionately enough to -lock the article-. That is an extremity that was... well, ridiculous. This is my first piece on the matter and we can host the mediating talk here (on my talk page) if that is okay with the other two. I just ask we get into the heart of it and solve the matter permanently.-- 16:06, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I guess I'll leave what I have to say next here then. We learn of the politics, major settlements, major events, etc. of almost every location that's been revealed in the games. If anything, the Mojave has more details about these then what's been stated about the Core Region. Furthermore, the believe that it's more detailed because it has "a great deal of major factions", quantity of factions does not equal qualitity. Other regions have introduced major factions, the Legion, other Brotherhood groups, New Vegas, various other towns, the Institute, and others. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 04:45, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Vertibird articles. Edit

I'm glad you appreciated it, Eden. It was nothing; always my pleasure to add good-quality pictures to the FO 1 and 2 articles. They're my babies, so I have to take care of them. ;-) Cheers, --C'n-Frankie ^-ArroyoTalk 21:16, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Messed up achievementsEdit

Actually it kinda makes me smile at the moment. 54,000 edits out of 10 does look rather funny. I think they're working on the badges. Before you could view the entire list and now you can only view them 9 at a time and you have to click a button to see the next series. Just give it some time, I'm sure in a few days they will have figured it out. Jspoel 00:02, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

Happy Veterans day.

Semper Fidelis,  The Gunny   17:34, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

My thanks to you Edit

Yes it is a re post but all of your kind thoughts should be shared as equals.

I, the guy who never shuts up, even when it's in his best interest. I am dumb struck honestly speechless.

The tokens and well wishes remembering the service of folks like me and Gunny offered mean more than you might imagine.

I consider my self a manly man. Man enough to admit when I saw the tokens and fine well wishes, You, Dead Gunner, Eden 2012, The Old World Relics and Tocinoman honored my talk page with, it left me speechless for more than an hour.

When I saw I had a message, literally, I spoke aloud "Quote" Wholly Fuck, what have I done now? "End Quote" Then I bared my teeth in a smile of acceptance and opened the page. What I found, well it honestly brought a tear to my eye.

Y'all shared your thanks for those of us who served. So I will do as my V.A. Therapist tells me and open up to share as well.

I have not been dealing with my "Most Honorable" yet, Obama, FORCED retirement. It has weighed on me most heavily since the 8th of November. I have been trying to keep a happy face on it. Still your kind words and more than fair tokens today means more to me than any metal I have socked away in a drawer.

So now it is my turn to gladly thank you all. I would do it all again. Thank YOU!

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:41, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Fantastic Edit

Hi there! On the matter of Fantastic... Besides his behaviour, if you go down a certain dialogue path, you can say that you are here to replace him, whereupon he will tell you that he needs the job for his chem addiction. And please don't assume bad faith. See you around! --Skire (talk) 19:36, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hitler PageEdit

Hello Eden2012,  please refrain from edit warring. If you feel your edits have been reverted without cause, leave a message on the article talk page, with the reverting editor, or one of Nukapedia's active administrators. Do not continue to edit war, as this will result in administrative action. You should take this opportunity to completely familiarize yourself with Nukapedia's user policies and content guidelines, if you have not yet done so.

Agent c (talk) 16:41, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

ImagesEdit

When you upload images, can you categorize them? You're uploading a lot of them and up until now I'm doing that. But you keep them coming for the blogs so I'd rather see you do it yourself from now on. Jspoel 23:14, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

After you upload an image, go to Recent Changes, then click on Upload (or Special:Log/upload) to get a list of uploaded files. Yours would be the top one. Right now it is your File:Noprisoners.jpg. Click on Edit (top of the page) and add

[[Category:Blog post images]]

. That's the correct category because it's an image in a blog. Then save the file and you're done. User page images go in

[[Category:User page images]]

. Give it a try. Jspoel 00:10, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

ChatEdit

Yes Eden, it is completely irrelevant. TBH, I cant even remember what you said, nor do I care. You get told to stop, you stop. End of. I've kicked RamboRob for doing the same when he was on my side, and would have had no problem kicking anyone else, including Jasper, had he continued. Agent c (talk) 21:08, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Me and Chad being from the Same PlaceEdit

Chad is an Aussie living in Scotland. He isnt English.
Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 21:09, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

The whole room had its warning in being told to end the conversation. There is no bias here, as Jasper rightly pointed out I am from nor do I live in England. The only bias I see here is that you got kicked, and are upset about it, which is why you cannot see why the kick is fair. I'd do the same to anyone else, that I happen to like you personally makes it harder - if anything I am biased in your and Jaspers favour equally. Agent c (talk) 21:25, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Eden, I have no wish to take away anyones freedom of speech to discuss other nations and yes, even poke fun at steriotypes. In any case, that isn't against the rules. Continuing a conversation after rule 9 has been invoked is. As such, Jasper hasnt broken the rules, but you did. Agent c (talk) 21:44, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

JSYKEdit

If you're wondering, this is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about. I tried it myself and it was still present, even with all patches and DLC. Юра 04:04, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

VideosEdit

I had to remove those videos from here. It is forbidden by the policy. Instead, use <youtube></youtube> tag, with the end of the URL from the video you wanted. Energy X ∞ 13:57, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, just between those tags, <youtube>example</youtube>.

It should appear something like this:

The Enclave Edit

Agreed. I'll go ahead and add myself to the list.-- Reconnaissance   04: 21:17, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re Edit

Eden. First off. Calm down. Second off, go see Gar's talkpage again. You will see I am also having this crazy ass glitch. That's all it's gotta be. Some crazy ass glitch. Don't worry I'm sure Gunny will figure it out by tomorrow. -- The Old World Relics ^{(talk/blog/contributions)} 07:03, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Ban Edit

I am terribly sorry if I have somehow banned you by accident. I'm not sure what happened, but I had banned an anon who had blanked an entire article page. I apologize for any inconvenience caused by this event. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 07:07, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Is that one or 3 Edit

It get's hard to keep track don't it

• First there is a joke Ban hammer & then there are small disputes. Ah DAMN then it all goes to hell..

What is there for a good man to do?..

Are rules just rules? ~ Is there no room to live and let be >

• How many bans make a good member into a villain ?

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 07:21, December 19, 2012 (UTC)happe

I am sorry this happened to you.

We poor mortals weep and woe for the days we walk in this fragile coil.

I hope your holidays find you better served.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 07:33, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Saint, you should know better than to assume that I joke banned him. I banned an anon for removing content from an article page, and it appears a wiki-wide glitch has occurred, banning other users in the process. Don't believe me? Look at their ban history. It shows up as them never being banned by me. I am attempting to figure out the cause for this glitch right now, so there is no further incidents. In any case, everyone should be back to normal, now. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 07:36, December 19, 2012 (UTC) May it all be sorted out soon..

I never assumed more than was posted

Much like my own history.

Shit happens.

It is good to see they are working on your behalf Eden

I might not be a fan of the Enclave but you seem like good folks.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 07:56, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! Edit

You have been given an Enclave special edition Sentry bot. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. Here's to the Enclave! Strong and free forever and always! Merry Christmas Eden! -- The Old World Relics (talk/blog/contributions) 01:57, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Eden2012! Yours Always; -- The Old World Relics ^{(talk/blog/contributions)} 01:44, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Happy holidays Edit

Merry Holidays Edit

You have been given The Holiday Feast. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. Merry Christmas Eden!.... Quaere Verum!, my friend. --Ant2242 (talk) 17:24, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Happy Holidays Edit

You have been given the take that BOS card. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. Happy Holidays SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:19, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:19, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

As a message of good faith... Edit

... and a potential spot on the Enclave's "Do not kill" list:

You have been given the Mutagenic Serum. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. This lovely serum will replicate biological conditions that will make you immune to all known carcinogenic effects and any mutations thereof... but not any currently present, so don't bother injecting me with it. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 04:38, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!Edit

You have been given A promotion!. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. Hello, my new General. Merry Christmas! "Hail to the Pigeon!" 06:45, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

You have been given a new tool for destruction. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. This works great on helicopters, don't ask how I know. Happy Holidays! "Semper Invictus" 04:10, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, you haven't been around lately, thought I'd leave you a present, sorry it's late. Message me back soon. ^{"Semper Invictus"} 04:10, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Content Inquiry Edit

Which armor mod/texture pack is this from in this image? http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/File:CRONOSinfreeside.jpg

CONTROL Station Mojave needs additional upgrades to our APA MkI, in order to begin our campaign against all sub-humans in the Southern Mojave.

Sincerely, Base Commander CONTROL Station Mojave DEPARTMENT OF ARMY ENCLAVE - U.S. GOVERNMENT 2281

Yo, manEdit

Hey, Eden, you've been out of chat lately, and we're all wondering where you are, at least I am. Come on back man, or at least give me an update on what the happenings are. Later, ^{"Semper Invictus"} 02:18, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Fini Edit

A Treatise by Quaere Verum I'm finished finally. ;)--Ant2242 (talk) 23:54, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I LOVE to hate you Brother Edit

I dig your passion for the Enclave.

*DAMN THE Enclave! Ass pound them all into ELITIST BUTT GANKED HELL !!!

• Still I say that with much love for you as a member ~;D

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 07:13, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah we all got to do what we do. Rock on Brother Eden. Have fun with it.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 07:57, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Autoplay is now verboten Edit

Hey Eden please remove the autoplay from your TP's player, it is no longer allowed. Limmiegirl ^{Talk! ♪} 11:52, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Eden2012. You have new messages at Limmiegirl's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

CategorizingEdit

I asked you a while back to categorize your images. Why aren't you doing it? Jspoel 15:08, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

And can you give your images better names from now on? 15340454951719119 BZgY4tTK b.jpg and 65010681863709471.jpg aren't that. Jspoel 15:24, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

You have been warned...Edit

You have been given a warrant for your arrest. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. You're lost ambitions shall be put to an end soon... -- A Safe People is a Strong People! 16:06, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Raven Rock Edit

Nowhere that I know of is it suggested that Raven Rock manufactures Vertibirds. Just because they aren't seen, doesn't mean the other models weren't present on the West Coast. Even then, the Vertibirds may have simply been stored at Raven Rock when they arrived or elsewhere, like the refueling stations. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 06:02, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Wow Edit

You're love for the Enclave revived mine when i fell out of love for them. Enclave patriots and fellow soldiers unite. For this i give you a present. Couldn't be bothered getting the pic. If the prezzie doesn't work out, disregard it but still take the message

You have been given Autumn's Laser Pistol. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. Happy Holidays -- "Broadcasting: Retro Radiation King" 11:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Brotherhood Edit

Hey Eden. Your edit on the Brotherhood page is bordering on biased. I understand your love for the Enclave however it can't distort content. You removed some useful and accurate information. For instance, the Enclave did begin a systematic purge of the wasteland, using the FEV and the Lone Wanderer as tools to do so. Also, it is incorrect grammar to end a sentence with an ellipsis (three periods). In addition, 'subsequently proceed along with carefully consolidating their power' does not need to have the word 'along' in it. I don't want to revert the edit and have it be misconstrued, so I'm just giving you a heads up and give you the opportunity to fix some of the errors while keeping your information and wording. If you think the 'purge' part needs addressing in a different way I welcome dialogue on the subject, but I do think that it is a reality and should be included on the page. Again, this is nothing personal, just my opinion on the matter.

All the best, ^{nihil novi sub sole} 11:34, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with much of what you say however it cannot be denied that the Enclaves (more specifically, Eden's) intention from the outset was to use project purity as a means to eradicate mutation (whether it be ghouls or all mutations, i.e. anyone not from a vault, is I guess debateable) in the wasteland. I replaced this information because I think it should be noted. You can see what I did here. Again, I think it merits inclusion. Thanks for your prompt response and happy editing! ^{nihil novi sub sole} 20:12, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Power to the PeopleEdit

You wouldn't happen to have anything to back up your claims, would you? Because right now, it is indeed speculation to state a direct comparison between the perk and that song. Also, even if it weren't speculation, it'd have to be removed or re-written simply because you used the word 'probably'. Just a heads up. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 05:18, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Too bad there's not enough of a distinction to determine one way or another. I know that quite a few perks and quest names are direct references to varied songs. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 05:22, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

Music Edit

I don't know why so may folks feared if the music players were mutable then their music would never be shared.

I dig that theatrical back ground you play..

What is that from?

What would you think of a blog just dedicated to folks sharing their top 3

favorites

What sound tracks help define you ?

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 11:43, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

No worries Brother.

That is indeed epic like Epica or Ennio Morricone.

Different yet similar

P.S.

I get your Enclave vibe

In Hell only a villain can be the hero.

If they let me wear a tux & use throwing knives

I'd be 00 666 Secret Enclave agent man

Maybe

I'm just looking for a sponsor for my Space monkey program

Major Tom

SHALL LIVE!

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 12:22, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yer kill'n brother Edit

"Quote" The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end..."End Quote"

LOL & HEHehe don't cover it.. It sounds so much like something I might say..

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:14, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Just to be clear Edit

I know I been yank'n the Enclaves chain a bit lately but it's just part of the game. You choose your role & I got mine.

Just because we are on opposite sides of the board dose not mean we can be friends.

Have fun out there.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 10:39, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Screenshots Edit

Went ahead and figured out what I wanted, so I'll go ahead and leave the details for you for future reference:

• Sabaoth -
  • Ralph World Model
  • Remnants Power Armour
  • Breathing Mask
  • Gatling Laser
• Commander Jarreth -
  • Talon Combat Armour
  • Supervisor Helmet
  • Lieutenant Monroe World Model (One without the helmet, and one with the helmet in a combat pose.)
  • Infiltrator

^{Some Assembly Required!} 05:17, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Don't apologize, you're the one doing me a favour. ;) But yes, I would still love to get my hands on those 2 images for my Apprentice entry! ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:46, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, again! I was just wondering if there was any chance to get those two images tonight? No rush for now, as I still have... 3 days? But I'll be finishing up everything tonight so I figured I'd go ahead and ask. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:46, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Profile Edit

Let me know if he doesn't respond in any form by tomorrow at this same time. I'll blank it personally if he doesn't. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 00:25, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Anytime. Not sure why anyone would blatantly copy over something like a user-page, anyways. As a side-note, it seems that Sigma went ahead and blanked their user-page. (I was originally wanting to see if they would at least acknowledge us before I did anything.) So just let me know if he decides to do the same thing again later. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 06:43, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

CapsEdit

Hi Eden,

Richie is correct in that eyebot should be lower case.

This is a part of the Fallout_Wiki:Editing_guideline#Capitalizingwiki caps policy.

Proper names, such as Pancor Jackhammer, Ranger Sequoia, or Stealth Boy should be capitalized. But common words or descriptive names, like combat shotgun, hunting revolver, or stimpak should not. This also includes names where part of the names constitutes a proper name, like Gannon family Tesla armor.

• Incorrect: A Stimpak is a type of hand-held medication used for healing the body.
• Incorrect: The Gannon Family Tesla Armor is a piece of armor in Fallout: New Vegas.
• Correct: The RobCo Stealth Boy 3001 is a personal stealth device worn on one's wrist.
• Correct: The Gannon family Tesla armor is a piece of armor in Fallout: New Vegas.

Generic character names should not be capitalized.

• Incorrect: A Raider killed a Super Mutant with an Assault Rifle.
• Correct: A raider killed a super mutant with an assault rifle.

Hope this clears things up. Agent c (talk) 21:45, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

New pages Edit

Hey, I didn't mean anything by that except to leave an edit summary for other editors indicating some additional work is needed to bring the article up to standard. I really, really hope you do not interpret it as being discouraging or anything like that. If anything I admire your efforts in bring fresh, new content to the wiki, which is always exciting. --Skire (talk) 03:23, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Always glad to help =) And also, since there isn't too much information on domestication units (not sure about capitalisation either), perhaps we could give more about where it's mentioned and its usage by the Enclave. I'm not very familiar about this (never seen it before) so perhaps you should handle the writing. When all the available content is covered then the stub template can go. --Skire (talk) 03:36, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Destroyed the EnclaveEdit

Oh you sure do know how to make a girl blush, but yes I destroyed them for you... and the Brotherhood. -- ^{You are considered an enemy in the eyes of the High Elder} 21:43, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

You'll like thisEdit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_B4GQkKVI ^{"Semper Invictus"} 01:41, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Smoking Edit

I smoke as well. I don't smoke TONS though. I bought a pack about 3 weeks ago and I've only had 5 cigarettes out of the pack. It's good if you can moderate yourself. You see a lot of people who smoke a pack a day, but I have willpower, so I won't end up like that. Like you said, it's quite enjoyable to smoke.

Brandon Fox (talk) 09:41, March 20, 2013 (UTC)

Question Edit

I got one for you: I finally got the type 3 body model textures to work. I'm currently using this one. Everything works perfectly, except it seems that the colourations don't match once you reach the neck-line and up. It seems to come in the form of the skin appearing much paler. I've looked around, but I haven't been able to find anything solid to fix this. You wouldn't happen to know of a solution? It's not game breaking or anything. But it is annoying after a while. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 06:52, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Bleh. What a nuisance. I have one more for you. It's not so bad, as I can still sort through all the crap and come out with a decent looking character. But I was wondering if you've ever had issues with going in to choose your race, and having numerous copies presented? So, for instance, there will be about 8 options for Caucasian, and choosing any of them looks exactly alike, but gets rid of the pre-existing face models to choose from. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 08:39, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

All I have it singled down to is during the process of installing the Spice of Life mod. Not sure if it's that mod, or the two body-model retexture mods that I have to download first. (One for male and one for female.) ^{Some Assembly Required!} 09:08, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Come to the chat ASAP; need to show you something. ^{"WHY!? For the glory of Sheogorath, of course!"} 01:46, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Apology Edit

Apology

I linked you a New Vegas mod, but didn't realized... it was unfinished. Sorry for doing that, didn't mean to. Enclave all the way. Bring Down the Sky (talk) 00:51, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Forum discussion Edit

Hello Eden. This is a message I will be rotating among Nukapedia's sysops and regular contributors. I would like your input on this forum. In an attempt to remove redundancy and confusion, I have proposed some tweaks to user rights, including the elimination of the moderator position. Thanks for your time, and let me know if you have any questions. ^{nihil novi sub sole} 09:53, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

My "Advertising" Edit

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm just spamming links to my Treatise blog in the comments section of yours. But the only reason I do this is so that I don't have to copy-paste whole sections into the comments section, making your comments unnecessarily long. I do not want to to clutter up your pages.--Ant2242 (talk) 16:02, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

But you say the same things over and over and over. Doesn't matter if you dress up the armaments different if its the same points. So I address this with my comments which is too long, I DO NOT wish to clutter up your blogs Eden.--Ant2242 (talk) 17:21, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Enclave. For a better tommorow. Edit

Hello, Just want to say I share your common interest in the Enclave and think that your page is ( for lack of a better term ) Superduper Great! Although I think it could use more mentats... Just a thought.

Hello agian, question this time. Is it possible to become a memeber of the Enclave on this wiki? I see on your profile you have a members list, is it possible for me to join?

To TinmanEdit

For signing a few checks o' mine.

This user is Mercenary/Invictus approved.

My Official Resignation Edit

Dearest Eden;
My dear brother in arms, you have been with me for some time as my faithful General in arms well I was serving my term as Vice President under our dearest President Denis, and then again under me you served my as my faithful Vice President during my acting term as President. In your time you have elevated The Enclave to new levels and continuously sough to keep The Enclave's ideals alive in this monstrous waste we live in. For your work The Enclave and most importantly, myself will always be thankful.

This being said though, I have come to terms with my time as President was overshadowed by your passion for The Enclave, and thus, along with the fact that I feel it it time to turn a new wave in my path, I am officially resigning as President of the Enclave, and as my last will and testament to our great nation, hereby elevate you to role of President of the Enclave.

This user is the current President of The Enclave.

This user served as Vice President under President Relics.

Best of luck here on out Mr. President. All I ask of you is that in your new role, you keep up the passion you have always had for our great nation. If our great nation shall ever need the use of myself, I am but a moment away. Yet I'm sure with you in charge their will never come a need of myself ;) Good luck and congratulations my dear brother in arms. Long live The Enclave! --The Old World Relics ^{(talk/blog/contributions)} 00:47, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to change up the userbox images as you see fit ;)

Chat Edit

Hey Eden, I have a proposal to run by you and Chad for this "Blog War". Whenever you get into chat leave me a message on my Talk page and I'll tell you what I have planned.

Thanks!

"'The One, The Only, The Gunslinger!" 15:52, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Pure Human Edit

Why are you adding Pure Human to the race for the Enclave characters? Somebody else suggested doing that and it was shot down by almost everyone immediately. 12:29, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

How about the GECK? We use the GECK to decide what's in a character's infobox, and the GECK says they're human, not pure human. If we're making this change, we're going to have to start changing other things in the infobox as well, like the Karma values everyone complains about. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 12:44, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well, then the problem is that you're not editing the lore part of the articles. Infoboxes are for gameplay purposes. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 12:53, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

If you want my opinion on what we should do next, it's getting some outside opinions on this matter, I guess. If you want my opinion on what I want to do, it's removing "pure human" from the boxes all together. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 13:27, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Pure humanEdit

Just to inform you, Pure human is not valid - it has been discussed before and it is supposed to be Enclave propaganda... one you seem not to have resisted. Energy X 19:02, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I was just messing with you about your alligeance with the Enclave. But the fact stands still - Pure Human was discussed and shouldn't be put into the infobox. Energy X 21:02, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

There have been multiple, but here is the latest vote, where it is a clear no from majority of users. If you still think you want to discuss about it, you can make a new forum. Energy X 21:23, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Pure Humans Edit

Ah. That. I'm going to be up-front and state that those discussions/votes have left a sour taste in my mouth. However, I'm still more than willing to jump into chat with you sometime next week and discuss where we might want to go with this idea again. It seems most editors around here don't like the idea of the term being used as a category listing nor as information to be listed within the info-boxes. However, it has a bit of support to have an actual page written out over it, which might be our best avenue of approach. We do have a minor sub-page written over the term, but I'll admit that it's a sad way of including a subject that spans through every Fallout game from Fallout 1 to Fallout 3. (Not including the spin-off games and Fallout: New Vegas, although I have a vague re-collection of the term being used in Fallout: Tactics.) ^{Some Assembly Required!} 00:27, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

Removing "archival messages" Edit

No, it's against the rules to delete user talk page messages. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 17:36, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Purity and the Beast Edit

When will you be available today? I have a bit of free time that I can dedicate towards us figuring out a new discussion for this idea. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 18:50, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ask not what the Enclave can do for you.. Edit

• Imagine.. Your text here.
• Why not ?

1 of 2

Add image

Have fun with it. Use any you like brother

PH Edit

Get back in chat if you want to talk. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 01:35, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Enclave satellite dishEdit

It's a world object. I checked the Fallout 3 and New Vegas miscellaneous world objects and it's already there. We mostly don't create separate pages for world objects but rather keep them in this overview page. Sorry. Jspoel 12:12, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

A reward for your seditious propaganda Edit

You have been given The Truth. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. You will pay for your treason and injustices. User_blog:Ant2242/An_Anti-propaganda_by_Quaere_Verum User_blog:Ant2242/A_Treatise_by_Quaere_Verum Quaere Verum!! --Ant2242 (talk) 00:46, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Ohh and for your trouble...

You have been given A head. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. He committed treason, murder and slavery, his punishment was death as a traitor. --Ant2242 (talk) 00:49, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Cool Things Edit

Yeah. I happened to have been looking out for them, since I was beginning an outreach program Chad had started to get us involved more with other Fallout communities. I told some of NMA's owners about possibly running our stories since they seem inclined to run stories over minor stuff for The Vault such as finding an image for Fallout: Extreme, or their Facebook page being hacked. As if that was news, ya know? It looks like their bias runs a lot deeper than just not running our stories, seeing that very non-flattering article-piece that they're written about us. They didn't even bother messaging me back on NMA before running it. Gives me something to think about, at least. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:10, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I can't really say that I'm surprised, either way. But I do plan on talking with them more in-depth about this as soon as they message me back. (If they do.) I think it's interesting that they say that Nukapedia has been under the radar, though. I seem to recall our activity and stories being pretty constant, while most Fallout communities outside of ours have been withering away in the dust waiting for the next title. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:20, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Might still be a salvageable situation. I made note that the person who wrote up my story wasn't even one of the people that I messaged. I was hoping to get Brother None since it seems that his articles are pretty neutral and detailed. Not sure who this Sander guy is. He hasn't written anything in a while, so I'm not sure why he's the one who tackled this article. Anyways, I'll make sure to update you should anything else come of this. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:32, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Just keep in mind to remain as neutral as possible. ;) There's always the chance that this is an isolated incident. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:47, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I share your pain. A lot of love is put into this wiki. Would be nice if this was ever recognized elsewhere. But hey, you have to admit that we do a damn good job keeping our community alive just by ourselves. At least we know that we can survive as an independent source. :D ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:55, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

MSG filesEdit

Thanks for joining the disambig clearing taskforce. I just changed your edit to an msg. file back again. You can format the files, but other than that, I like these kind of text files to stay original, like the design docs. Jspoel 11:46, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

hey eden thanks for helping me ^^ i wont be on for 2 months because of Camalex12 cya

Goodbye see you soon Edit

hey Eden thanks for the help i really appreciate it see u in 2 months im gonna miss u even if we just met ur like a big bro bye

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Pure Humans Edit

I started up Part II a little while ago. I meant to finish it up tonight, but something has come up and I won't be able to start work on it again until tomorrow, so I've left the forum as a WIP until then. I have pretty much everything written out and ready to transition over here, but I wanting to ask if you could do a couple things for me:

• Can you run through my lists and figure out if I'm missing anyone? And, for that matter, if I listed someone who doesn't need to be mentioned?
• If you can, would you go through and see if there are any additional dialogue files or transcripts that I can link to as a reference? I found a few more, but additional links certainly couldn't hurt.

Thanks a lot if you find the time to do those for me! Anyways, if we can get this last discussion forum set up completely by tomorrow, I'll make sure we have the vote up next Monday. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 04:07, May 14, 2013 (UTC)

The VaultEdit

I'm not entirely sure it was you who removed content from the Vault, but reviewing the logs it would appear so. Don't do that anymore, it will give us a bad name. If there's something to say about copying content, it's best done by words and not otherwise. Jspoel 18:39, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

(Late) Birthday presentEdit

Sorry it's late, but better late than never, eh?

You have been given the means to an end. Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation. I'm just giving you the option... use it wisely. Happy B-Day, Eden. "Semper Invictus" 10:27, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Like I said, just an option... just an option... let's not make any rash decisions, eh? Get on chat later, we need to finish the Vault 50 RP, mane. ^{"Semper Invictus"} 10:41, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

PHV Edit

Just wanted to give you a heads up that the vote is now up. But to be brutally honest with you, I have the feeling that at the most, we'll only be able to come out with the lore page. And from the votes I've already seen and the ignoring of my voting guidelines already, I'm starting to have doubts for even that. I'm just waiting for the comments and votes saying that this and we are racist. :P ^{Some Assembly Required!} 15:51, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Patroller Edit

I will do my best IRS impersonation and go over every edit you've ever made to assess your suitability for tax exempt status patroller. Actually, I'll probably check some of your recent reverts and stuff. I will let you know accordingly. The Gunny   20:32, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I found you! Edit

Taking breaks between writing my Apprentice entry and creating Nukapedians as Fallout characters. Finally got around to you. :3

^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:27, May 21, 2013 (UTC)