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Copying of Pages to The VaultEdit
Look, I can see your frustration but it's what has happened. If you would have acknowledged us and asked the user, fine by all means COPY & PASTE but you did nothing of the sorts. You took several pages of our community and with no respectful acknowledgement to A.) Acknowledgement to the community you took it from, Nukapedia. B.) Not even a change of wording or anything of the sorts... I took time out of MY life and others THEIR lives to make those pages and you come along and copy the page, paste it over at The Vault and claim as yours. That's uncalled for and so is your response of 1.) I copied it from Wikipedia. and 2.) It was a coincidence. They are outright lies. We all caught you in them, we have proof of the plagiarism and of your denial. We tried to make this as civil as possible but yet you try and cower from everything brought before you. I have lost my patience for you (as have a lot of people) and what's going on over at The Vault. The few good users there have tried to create a peace between us and shit like what you do is ruining it. If I have to I will go over to T.V. and change those pages myself and claim the rights there to them. Would love to hear a response on either this TP or my own.
Then why can you not perform the simple task of providing a valid statement addressing our evidence and concerns? Why do you constantly shy away from the page histories and timestamps proving otherwise? In basic psychology, that pretty much crystal clearly translates to "I know I'm screwed and they know I'm lying but I'm just going to outright deny everything and think they have no evidence". It's common-sense. It's like me stealing something on CCTV with my face clearly visible and doing exactly the same as you, saying "I didn't do it, you've got no proof". Those very lines are also in fact a classic case of a lie.
The page histories and times clearly state otherwise. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Flatbush?oldid=2032670 - 21:07, November 25th, 2013 http://fallout.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Flatbush&oldid=1680365 - 00:29, November 26th, 2013
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Dunwich?oldid=2047697 16:46, December 17th, 2013 http://fallout.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Richard_Dunwich&oldid=1685496 17:11, December 17th, 2013
I have no doubt there are more pages such as this on TV. Blog 07:39, January 20, 2014 (UTC)
Look Ant, as a crat I'm trying not to get too deep into this dispute, especially given my history with a certain fellow admin of yours, but people keep pulling me in.
I'm facing calls to ban you. I'm not going to do that, because it wouldn't solve the problem. You ban a vandal to stop em vandalising, but I cant stop someone viewing and using Control C on the wiki.
You gotta admit this looks more than a little suspicious... 2 pages, almost identically worded, made within hours of the one here... and today I noticed you uploaded the Fallout Tactics manual not long after we did...
Ultimately, if you are copying without attribution, and you know for sure if you are or not, this is a situation that hurts everyone. Firstly, it hurts us - our users feel disrespected, and the work appears on our competitor... but it also hurts the Vault. The ultimate place where this ends is a potential DMCA takedown notice. If we issue a DMCA takedown notice to Gamepedia's host or ISP, then The Vault goes down - its as simple as that. Maybe it comes back up in a few days after the infringing content is gone, maybe it doesn't.
I think you'll appreciate this is the nuclear option... and noone wins in a nuclear war.
All you have to do to avoid any of that happening is attribute anything you use in the same manner Tag demanded of us. You're free to use it, as long as its used the right way.
Up to you where you want this to go. Ultimately until this is cleared up, you're going to find chat a hostile place... and I know you like visiting us.
A (late) Holiday GiftEdit
Your efforts and diligence have not gone unnoticed, and you have been given a small token of appreciation.
You keep calling me a 'vandle' on the Wikipedia Fallout (series) article for correcting your unfounded and subjective opinions in the place of objectivity, we're gonna have problems. Knock it off please. 07:04, February 3, 2014 (UTC)