Agent c

aka Chad H.

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September 19, 2008
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Garoux's ban. Edit

The ban is a curiosity to say the least, Chad. Proper policy wasn't followed (Leon wasn't warned or kicked). Additionally, no one in chat, beyond possibly Gunslinger can see what Leon did that would warrant a ban. Policy dictates a warning and then a kick and lastly a ban. Not a ban due to things said in logs through a user's special contributions page. Richie9999 (talk) 04:16, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

Heck, Leon is still in chat as we speak cause there wasn't any autokick, no one in here knows why he was banned and the only reason we realized he was is because I'm watching RC. Richie9999 (talk) 04:19, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

GB's banEdit

It is not a proper ban since there was no notification, and at the very least Garoux should have been expelled from chat, which didn't happen since it was a backdoor ban. The proper procedure was completely ignored, making the ban illegitimate. In this case, the benefit of the doubt goes with the user. I'm making the administrative decision to suspend the ban until the proper procedure is followed. Please do not undo my actions this time.
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:21, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

If you equate it to an edit war, they you're violating procedure as well by reverting me. The policy states: "1)Administrators are allowed to undo each other's administrative actions. 2)However, it is expected that the one who reverts an action explains the reason for the revert. 3)In addition, if the admin whose action was undone disagrees with the revert, they should contact the reverter and discuss instead of simply reverting the revert. If consensus cannot be reached, a third admin should be asked to mediate." I acted according to 1) and 2). You violated 3).
Limmiegirl Lildeneb Talk! ♪ 04:28, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

I am completely baffled as to why a site block was added on top of a ridiculous chat ban. Garoux did absolutely nothing to deserve a site ban and cannot "block war" while having no extra rights. Please explain yourself. --Skire (talk) 04:41, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

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Chat logEdit

915 to 917 051214 chat Sorry for potato-ish quality. --Kastera (talk) 05:22, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

GB's Chat Ban Edit

I am now being told I fabricated chat logs and made stuff up. I am simply gonna do this as I just pulled this out of the chat logs. Which is the exact thing I posted to show you what was going on. If no one believes me, fine, I don't care. I have no reason to fabricate logs nor the desire to see people worked up, but I will not by any means condone what I thought was harassment.

Here are the logs. Exactly like I posted them earlier.

[03:11] <Limmiegirl> I remember someone giving you a hard time because they said you endorsed rape GB

[03:11] <Limmiegirl> Don't quite recall the details though

[03:12] <GarouxBloodline> Heheh.

[03:12] <GarouxBloodline> That might have been Mel. I did have to block her for a lot of reasons, with one of those reasons being that she was calling me a womanizer that advocated rape.

[03:12] <Kastera1000> Back in time to not see Siggy leave ;_;

[03:12] <GarouxBloodline> Block her as in over Skype and stuff.

[03:13] <Kastera1000> Is she a Tumblr grade feminist or something?

[03:13] <Richie9999> You advocated rape?

[03:13] <Richie9999> Shame on you.

[03:13] <GarouxBloodline> She is the worst kind of feminist, Kas. The kind that hates you for having a penis.

[03:13] <GarouxBloodline> I never advocated rape. >.>

[03:14] <GarouxBloodline> She started making up all this weird shit, like the one where she accused me of going around sleeping with every woman I meet. As if she has even met me or known me personally a day in her life.

[03:14] <Eden2012> What the hell's a feminist in the year 2014?

[03:14] <Richie9999> uh huh

[03:14] <Eden2012> Real feminists stood down in the 60's.

[03:14] <Kastera1000> I'm just a cismale shitlord, I guess. Sorry I'm comfortable being male.

[03:15] <Limmiegirl> GB's clock:

[03:15] <Eden2012> And why be a feminist when you could be something 'much' more positive and valuable like a...

[03:15] <Eden2012> Humanist?

[03:15] <Eden2012> I dunno.

[03:15] <Eden2012> I'm batshit crazy, I guess.

[03:15] <GarouxBloodline> That was a secret between us, Liemgrilz. ;_;

[03:16] <Limmiegirl> Well, it's rape past rape right now

[03:16] <GarouxBloodline> I really want to watch that scene now where Pyramid Head rapes a mannequin.

[03:16] <GarouxBloodline> Damn you.

[03:16] <Limmiegirl> Which one?

[03:16] <Limmiegirl> Lol, thre are three of them

[03:16] <Limmiegirl> there*

[03:17] <GarouxBloodline> The one where he just tosses it aside afterwards. lmao

[03:17] <GarouxBloodline> I also like that for a quick moment, it seems like you two have some sort of weird psychic eye contact where he knows you are watching.

[03:17] <GarouxBloodline> And keeps going

[03:17] <Limmiegirl>

[03:19] <GarouxBloodline> Giggity

[03:20] <Richie9999> Those ragdolls though

[03:22] <Xeno126> What's up left the elder scrolls wiki there's a dumb argument about abortion going on other there so I moved here

[03:22] <Xeno126> playin skyrim

[03:22] <Richie9999> k

[03:23] <GarouxBloodline> Good idea: we should talk about abortion here

[03:23] <Xeno126> and fnv at the same time

[03:23] <Richie9999> So abortion.

                                    End of Topic

This is what posted exactly earlier. If no one believes me, fine, I'm not in the caring mood. I banned at MY discretion, the others took to their discretion and unbanned Leon.

RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 08:42, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

This "fabrication" is a misunderstanding. These word "Also, sorry to be rude. I didnt say hi ;_; HI MEL!" is NOT fabrication!!! This is my Personal Hello to Mel! I didn't give her a proper Hello when I pm'd her. I, The-Gunslinger, said this to Mel as a personal hello. I am putting this here for all to see. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 08:48, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


Your contents list is waaaaay too long. I miss you! Like lotsies! :) NextTattoo"Even In Death May You Be Triumphant" 11:51, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


Not a problem, I'd be happy (for lack of a better word) to step in on this. I have done a preliminary investigation and I have outlined a report as well, although I confess that I've been quite busy the past few days and I don't think I've looked into it as deeply as I believe to be necessary. I'm planning on looking further into everything later tonight and I'll likely come to a conclusion sometime tomorrow. When I inevitably reach a conclusion, how would you like me to relay the information? Blog post? Forum? Talk page message to you and all parties involved? Let me know what you would prefer. FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  18:52, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

Images from the CryptEdit

Chad, I found a few gem images in the Fallout 2 cut content game files. Check 'm out, especially the Star Wars gathering is a fine one (for your digest)!

Thank YouEdit

I think you won't remember because it is long time ago already (uhh i think December 2013) but thank you for restoring my page because some anonymous user removed everything on my page and that time I was panicking and don't know what to do, again thanks for restoring my page I owe you one --User:Jarence chan 19:35, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Cut Companions Edit

Hey, could you possibly verify that Victor, Vulpes and Benny were supposed to be companions when you would happen to speak again to Chris Avellone? Some anon posted in the Vulpes notes that he was supposed to be one, so i did some googleing and found this[1]. - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 10:09, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Possible Fallout 4, TES VI, leakEdit

Hey. Since you're the person responsible for news blogs in this wiki, I wanted to message you. A friend just sent me the link to this Picture: It's apparently a leaked document from Bethesda, mentioning that Fallout 4, TES VI, and "Project Greenheart" will be announced at this years E3. This is also being discussed over at the official Bethesda Forums. AngryEnclaveSoldier (talk) 13:56, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

It's very, very, very likely to be fake. Read this reddit post for investigation info. --Kastera (talk) 17:26, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

An official "dead chat" form Edit

As the chat is frequently "dead" I propose an official declaration for calling it 'dead". "At [time in 24 hour time] hours, on the [day of the month] of [month], in the year (optional: 'year of our lord' it sounds cool ok?) [year], I hereby declare this nukapedia chat, dead." I think this is needed because "Im calling it (dead)" just doesnt sound cool enough, chad. RaulTheGhoul (talk) 20:39, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit


Videos in the right railEdit

I've asked Wikia to remove those videos in the right rail. Can't be done, they say; it's obligatory for every wiki now. Great. Now I've asked to move the videos down the chat bar and image add button. It's annoying you can't see those straight away. And also it's the same videos that appear over and over again. Asked them to take a look at that as well. Wikia seem to have a few hundred licensed for Fallout. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 19:47, May 24, 2014 (UTC)


I disagree. While it is true that bureaucrats have administrator rights (i.e. sysop rights), their position is distinct from the administrator position. If the policy read, "...endorsed by at least one active sysop user" or " least one active user with administrator rights," then I would agree fully. However, it clearly reads " active administrator," referring to the position. It's for good reason too -- bureaucrats are supposed to maintain at least a façade of neutrality in order to be in the right position to make the final decision. That's the way I see it. If you have a different interpretation of the policy, I can fully understand and respect that, but please don't allow it to supersede mine. --Skire (talk) 20:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

It reads, "...other people's administrative powers," not "other administrators." They are clearly separate positions. --Skire (talk) 21:27, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
We are talking about two different things. There is administrator in the sense of the rights they have, and administrator in the sense of the actual position. In context, the chat moderator requirements (to me, at least) refer to the latter -- the actual administrator position. And it is clear that bureaucrats aren't regular administrators. They have more powers, one of which is making the final decision in rights requests, which is why an endorsement from only admins makes sense. So to summarise, yes bureaucrats have admin/sysop powers (just as sysop powers include chat moderator powers), the positions are nonetheless separate. I hope that makes my position more clear. --Skire (talk) 21:34, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
I am not arguing that bureaucrats aren't administrators, I am arguing that in the context of the policy, my interpretation is that the endorsement is for administrators (i.e. users who hold the specific "administrator" position, not the "bureaucrat" position). --Skire (talk) 21:46, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I know that is your interpretation. And policy clearly states that bureaucrats make the final decision, so if a bureaucrat endorses a chat moderator and then is expected to make, with neutrality, a final decision... the policy becomes an absurdity. What you're saying is that it doesn't matter -- bureaucrats have all the powers admins have. In general, I can agree with that. However, in this case, that specific power (i.e. endorsement) seems to conflict with a de jure duty to make a final decision for the request. If an endorsing bureaucrat would excuse himself from the deliberations, then that will be fine. Also, I'm not trying to call you out or anything, and the applicant you endorsed clearly passed. This is mainly in consideration for the future. --Skire (talk) 22:05, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Does moderating chat conflict with another prescribed bureaucratic duty? Again, because bureaucrats have the responsibility of making the final call, I believe they should be exempt from making endorsements. While it may not be viewed as such on paper, I hope that bureaucrats would at least voluntarily opt out of endorsing users to maintain some neutrality in making the final decision. --Skire (talk) 23:38, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Nuka Break 2014 Edit - Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 20:23, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit


RE: Cut stuff Edit

Yes, well, I'm interested in things that exist in the game files that date back to development time to later never go used, like the unused narrations for Ron Perlman on destroying either the Cathedral or the Military Base. That'd probably be good reason, since the FMVs of the destruction is more satisfying... Also, you should hit the "Leave message" button up there rather than just choosing to "Edit", that way you can make another topic and it's more convenient that way. --Breakin'Benny (talk) 22:22, June 6, 2014 (UTC)


As you already know, I'm growing weary of the poorly functioning javascript based chat bot we're currently using. We've received 2 offers to run a fully scripted chat bot on it's own server, and after we discussed it last time, I decided to give a test run to User:Lil' Miss Rarity's bot. The bot, just like Sactage's, will write the logs to the wiki, as mine had done, but with the addition of all joins, exits, kicks and bans being recorded also. Also, like Sactage's bot, there are lots of other things the bot could do, if we desire. I've stopped using my chatbot account for the time being and we'll see how Rarity's bot does. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 20:58, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Voice actorsEdit

Still no word form GStaff from Bethesda (or other PR man) about the voice actors? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:08, June 8, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Chad. A new user came to join the NUN. Since he has some basic template experience, it would be good to pair him up with Gunny. Just a thought. Energy X 22:16, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit



There is something we need to discuss, and it needs to be discussed in public. Lately you have become vindictive to the point where you cannot differentiate professional boundaries with personal boundaries, and it has gotten to the point where I need to say something. You have ignored me, even when making helpful suggestions such as pointing you to articles that you might like in your news digest. Then you blocked me entirely on Skype, even though that was our best avenue of discussion since I do not frequent chat much. And now, I have reports of you taking this even further by bitching about me in private and doing your best to make me seem like a complete and utter asshole, and now you are taking that even further by moving it into public chat to the point where you have made multiple users uncomfortable with your unprofessional attitude.

So I am asking this in a blunt way, but not one that is trying to make you feel bad: please grow up. I know you do not accept the way I think many times. But I find it disappointing that just because you do not like my opinions, that you have decided to cut all contact with me entirely, except for when you decide to attack me in chat, or in other forms of wiki contact with me where you regularly use sensationalist terms against me such as 'witch-hunt' and my 'drama of the week'. I would hope you would not be the kind of person to hold a hateful grudge against others, especially since you are studying to be a judge, but if you choose to do so against me, then all I have to say is that I am deeply sorry it has to be that way. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:51, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

The reason I started this discussion, is because I see us heading down an ugly route I would rather not seen taken. After multiple users have come to me with private screenshots showing you have a very choice vocabulary when talking about me, and then hearing that this has now spread to public chat where we both know that our community is hugely impressionable, I decided it was about time we made this open so we can figure out where we both go from here on out. I know you feel as if my after report was just some big dramatic stunt. But if you empathize with the situation, it should be taken into account that I see it as standing up for myself, just as if I was arrested for doing something I never did, or being whipped by my parents for something I never did.
So we do not have to be friends. Our opinions and beliefs vary vastly, and I perfectly well understand that not everyone is compatible with each other. But I do want to see a professional relationship continue existing, and the way things are going now, that is simply not going to be possible. So this is my attempt to talk things through and explain my frustrations, in which you can do the same. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 23:24, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
Slinger has been been dragged through this, and it is regrettable. But ultimately, he was involved, and his ban set off a series of events that involved me being accidentally site-banned, Limmie having her rights thrown into question on two different fronts, and two different investigations formed that failed to produce their intended parts (although it is nice to see Follower is taking action and getting together an official report ready). This whole matter has been one part me standing up for myself, and one part identifying how we can avoid a major screw-up like this again.
My belief is that people naturally shy away from confrontation, and attempt to forget about everything by creating an 'Out-of-sight, out-of-mind' scenario in which people replace accountability with pretending nothing ever happened. The ban itself was only a minor incident, and by itself, would not warrant my after report, which is why I do not care much about the ban itself aside from standing up for myself, and I have spoken with Slinger multiple times in which we both agreed it was a mistake, and I do not hold what he did against me. The big issue I see is what transpired after the ban. So I am sorry if this is seen as simple drama. But I like to keep people accountable, and if I ever did or do anything to cause these sorts of events to happen, then I want the community to make sure I am accountable. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 00:04, June 11, 2014 (UTC)
I have chosen to believe Slinger that the trolling/harassment via the chat-logs deal was a mistake in communication, and I have told him this. However, it is hard to ignore what has been piling up, including a couple of emotional moments for Slinger that happened literally right before the ban, and then that private quote shortly afterwards to compliment those moments. I mean, what was supposed to be a simple chat-ban turned into a whole slew of poor decisions, confusion, and a lot of missing information. But no, my problems do not currently lie with Slinger. Do I still find myself under the impression we need to talk about his actions? Yes. Do I believe his rights or anything need to be taken away? No. Have I lost my trust or faith in him? No, and this is two-fold: one, I still trust him enough to hold a position of power on the Moose, and two, after what his ban caused, I highly doubt he will make a mistake like this again.
I should go ahead and be clear on this one, then, just to avoid possible confusion later: I do not respect private conversation. I do not even own a phone (except for an old Android that can hook up to the Internet), or really use my E-Mail, because I cannot o cstand not having open conversations with others I speak with. However, if I am specifically asked not to reveal private information, and so long as I am not thrown under the bus for keeping that said information private, I will not go around spreading around that private information. Otherwise, however, I consider everything the other person as well as myself has said, as public grounds for quoting should the time come. But keep in mind that my loyalty is to myself, and the wiki. If private information harms either in some form, I am not going to risk my own integrity just to keep the other person feeling secure.
I want accountability. I want to see admittance that mistakes were made, as otherwise, there is no lesson to take from any of this and no one will have learned anything. A good example is at my old school, we had one of those teachers that would do the shtick where he would tell his students whenever something was stolen that if they returned it on his desk before he came into class the next day, no punishment would be given out. This did not happen often, but when a stolen item actually was returned, the only lesson that was given is that they did not have to be accountable for their stealing, and that pretending nothing ever happened is the best route to take. One of the big ones is currently being taken care of by Follower, and I have come to peace with that, knowing that Slinger and I will finally be given a bit of closure.
That is a perfectly reasonable demand, and I am actually pretty happy to finally be asked. The after report was just a condensing of everything that happened, so it will be good to make my grievances a bit more concise:
  1. Improper Procedure: This is not a serious matter at this point. But there is still a lesson, and that is while proper procedure does not always have to be followed, it is typically best to follow it anyways. If Slinger would have waited first until a time where he could properly warn/notify me of his ban intentions, then a discussion between the two of us would have taken place, and I can guarantee none of this would have ever happened.
  2. Committee: This one is a pretty serious point to me, especially with recent revelations. We have never had to rely on the corresponding policy before, and so I understand why there has been a lot of confusion. So I took this chance to point out what a committee should mean: if a possible rights abuse situation has come up, our policies declare that a Bureaucrat must create an investigate committee. When the 1st committee was disbanded, Skire later told me that he had come up with a second one, which was later illegitimized. What made this a problem is that this was only done because the 1st committee was disassembled, and also, because there is no rule stating that someone other than a Bureaucrat cannot begin their own investigative committee. Then, to make matters even worse, the committee did not handle matters properly. Neither Slinger or I were asked any questions, one of the board-members did not even know the most basic information involved in the case, and then almost a month after the incident, neither of us had received any closure on the matter, which we have both publicly noted. But then, to add icing onto the cake, we actually had a user try and argue the point that our committee policy can be bent to the point where a committee can take as long as they please just as long as they promise to give a report before they die. The only solution I saw at hand was to point out the misconceptions and mistakes, as humility is usually the best way to make sure something is done right next time it happens.
  3. Limmie: I do not want to fight Limmie's battles. She is her own person, and she does not need me to stand up for her. But something that shocked me is seeing her threatened two different times, all because she was standing up for me in the face of what was a questionable ban. I am not really sure of the solution to this, except maybe you two talking it out. But I did feel like it needed to be pointed out at least, as no one here should be afraid to stick up for those that they see as being done an injustice.

I can understand that. A lot of incomplete information led to a lot of points that had to be corrected or at the very least, rebutted. I was being as thorough as possible, and was entirely open to my arguments being clarified to the point where they were no longer a concern, as with the site-ban deal. So maybe now, with Follower getting some closure ready, and us talking, we can begin officially closing this chapter soon. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 17:44, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry it has taken me a bit - been working on the Moose, and simply had not been in the mood to reply quite yet. When it comes to the first point, I think what really got me the most is that I was never spoken with. It is a general rule on Wikia that banning someone should only be done as a last resort, and as a long-standing member at Nukapedia, being banned like some random anon that made their first edit vandalism is just wrong in my opinion, as well as others. And many times, even vandals at least get warnings first. I understand that no one is being forced to give a warning or talk with someone first before banning, but I think you can understand that is not the right way to handle matters when concerning long-standing members that have proven themselves to the community for years.
I did approach you, actually. When I was told that you were telling everybody that I was banned because I was trolling Mel through the logs, I went straight to you on Skype, and you told me you would deal with Slinger personally if it turned out he had falsified the logs. After that charge was dropped, I no longer felt a need for a committee personally. But obviously, other users have, which means a second committee was warranted, whether I agreed with it or not. Just because I was the one banned, does not mean I am the only one that can call for a rights abuse investigation. As for the rest, that is understandable, although technically, our community does have a right to investigate matters, and to call for anything from ban removals, to ban instigations.
I am not so sure that is a good idea, and you should understand that it would require the Bureaucrats to change their ways as well. I have 3 reasons why I have been campaigning since 2012 to bring more control back to the community, and one of those reasons is because in the past, both Administrators and Bureaucrats have been known to go in and change bans they do not agree with without ever telling anybody. The not telling anybody is the problem, but I do not believe the act of reverting a questionable action is the problem, as reverting simply means restoring to its original state, which forces both parties to either have a discussion, or to bring in mediation. Otherwise, the person who instigated the questionable action can just refuse to acknowledge those that question the action, and then we would be forced to drag out long ass forums, when instead, we could have handled matters a lot more personally, and a lot more easier. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 03:55, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

DoctorMcFetus anon Edit

It did the thing. Special:Contributions/ . Great Mara (talk) 11:30, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Lua Edit

Oh, and have you heard of this? If not, this is something that Gunny and them need to know about so we can begin preparing. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 17:45, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

BC Endorsement Policy Edit

As the policy states, we as administrators reserve the right to veto a policy change if we choose to do so. On the endorsements referendum, we could not reach an absolute majority on whether or not bureaucrats can endorse and what restrictions they would have/would not have if they could. Only a (and this is debatable) plurality was reached, and it is looking like users are deciding to forgo continuing the debate and deny bureaucrats (sysops) the right to endorse. Thus, I am making a polite attempt to gain supporters for a veto of this policy change. I am sending you this message because you appeared to be in favor of bureaucrat endorsement. In closing, I would like to ask the following question: Can I count on your support in a veto of this policy change? Thank you for your consideration. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 05:47, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

In light of Leon pointing out a flaw in my message, allow me to clarify why I am doing this: I believe the policy change to be unfair on the grounds that it is a split vote. In total, 10 users voted for options 2 and 3 (both of which allow bureaucrats to endorse; 4 users voted for option 2, which places restrictions on that right), which tallies to 10 users in support of bureaucrat endorsement, and 8 users voted for option 1, which opposes the right of endorsement. Thus, the side in support of bureaucrat endorsement was split. The veto policy states that vetoes can be used for valid reasons. I cite my reason as improper procedure. See the referendum results for further clarification. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 06:16, June 14, 2014 (UTC)
That's what I originally thought was going on, but I'd suggest giving the referendum a read. While I know it is not a popular wiki usage time and not many users are awake right now, two users who are awake are under the impression that we are simply moving forward, and I do not recall the matter being settled. Navy athletics Don't give up the ship! Bill the goat 07:17, June 14, 2014 (UTC)

Courts Edit

You would really hate it in America with that expectation. :/ I was just telling Skire that you reminded me of back when I lived in Florida, there was a man that was arrested and thrown in jail for killing his wife, even though a body was never found and no hard evidence was pinned to him. We heard about the story again about 7 years later, and it turned out his wife had just ran away with an old boyfriend of hers to California. Shit like that happens constantly here, even though it should not. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 23:39, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

My absolute favourite example, however, is that if a child goes missing, unless there is hard evidence from the beginning, the parents are always the number one suspect. You would be shocked at how many parents have been released from incarceration because they were thrown in jail as the reason their children went missing (it seems the most popular explanation is that they sold their children), and were later found innocent. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 23:41, June 15, 2014 (UTC)
Stakes are a lot lower - it is good for our community that way. I remember when I first came to Wikia, I really took it to heart that banning should be a last resort. Do not hesitate those that only come to our wiki to sow discord, and fight with every ounce of your being to make sure those that genuinely care about the wiki are not faced with the possibility of exile. Saint has always been that perfect example for me, that someone beneficial to our wiki and community should always be fought for. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 23:51, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Embedding Edit

Got some bad news for you:


ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 08:51, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit


MediaWiki Edit

Here is the code at its most basic form. This is only for experimental purposes for now, to make sure it would even be compatible with MediaWiki. If it ends up working, I will update it later - if you would like your stream added, it is pretty easy to do so, and I can show you how to update it as well. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:57, June 17, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Chad. Take this as my official resignation from my position as Moderator. With everything that's transpired in the last few months, the amount of hostility brought down here (on myself and others), and Gunny's departure, I have started to question my own rights and have come to the conclusion that I must step down from my position. This place has caused a great deal of stress (here and in the home) and I feel the best course of action is to walk away. In conclusion to this (and for your knowledge) I will be shutting down my Skype and removing the contacts list from my page. Thanks for everything. RangerSequoia "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Wiki 16:19, June 18, 2014 (UTC)


Okay, understood. Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 21:16, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Slinger IIEdit

I don't really know what I would have done wrong, but okay, I'll refrain from such behaviour.-Red Lucy (talk) 21:22, June 21, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, since I don't have much work here (unlike the other Wikis I edit to) and there seems a greater need to "entertain" the viewers, I could run the Hole again. I ask for your permission to continue, actually. Energy X 22:03, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

(coolcake05) i've only played fallout 3 so you do have a point about the brotherhood and enclave being used to much also is there anything important i'm missing from the old fallout games? considering your advice i may redo the whole thing but your welcome to give me ideas for the bad guys and stuff

The Gunslinger Returns AgainEdit

Whatever. I'll go with whatever you want to do. If people want to seriously get this offended over a joke to the point where I could get banned for slinging the usual shit I sling at people (with no harm meant of course) then I'll just go with it. I, of course, don't want to ever hurt anyone's feelings, as should be completely obvious. Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Semper Invictus" 07:05, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Iframe Edit

Alright, I did some digging, and I found a work-around for not being able to directly embed our chat-rooms - what are your thoughts about activating the Iframe widget here at Nukapedia? ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 18:53, June 23, 2014 (UTC)


Well, made the test blog. As you can see, it had a re-design, with a few additions. If there are no mistakes, I believe it can start in Friday. Energy X 20:55, June 24, 2014 (UTC)


All right, the colors will be modified. Well, will Thursday work (considering it is between weekend and Hide and Seek blogs).

Also, I may not be as great to make those mini-stories like you did with Sulik, but I had another idea. As you might've read, I'll pick two editors each week and have them point out why the people should vote for their characters (under Commenter 1 and Commenter 2 sections). Energy X 21:03, June 24, 2014 (UTC)

I think I have exhausted a lot of options and this is nearly the final product (excluding the challengers and the commenters will have to be picked). Although I just saw that Hide and Seek with Helena is made on Thursday(s), so I should wait until Tuesday to launch it... Energy X 21:28, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Behaviour Edit

I feel as if I should caution you against your recent stance on chat behaviours - being an enabler is not healthy for any society, and that extends to smaller communities such as ours. Creating an environment where its people feel comfortable and safe being vitriolic and negative only fosters further vitriol and negativity. Any stance against those that choose to call out this negativity, is essentially replicating a one-sided road, with those being negative finding themselves protected, and those seeking a more positive environment finding themselves stifled, and essentially told to be pussies and accept the negativity.

If you are fine with a disrespectful and vitriolic community, then that is fine. But just warning you: this is what led to our chat-room becoming so poisonous before, and continuing to foster this negative social norm will only see to the hydra's head regrowing. For me, I find it more constructive to dissuade this from happening. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:18, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Chat-logs still would not have mattered in this case - I have a screenshot detailing everything he said. Anyways, yes, I will continue using screenshots and chat-logs should they be relevant to a rights forums, whether asking for them, or having their already existing rights brought into question.
But what is more important, is that I used what he said as constructive criticism, and Raul took this criticism well. We have even continued the discussion on our talk-pages, and have remained civil to each other, meaning you are the only one causing problems right now. So, again, I am afraid I must decline your stance - Raul has taken the logs I provided as constructive criticism, and you are the only one causing irrelevant problems on the forum. I prefer constructive criticism. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:26, June 25, 2014 (UTC)
2 points, and then I do not really have anything further to say:
  1. If there is a policy, then please point me to it. I do not remember a community vote, nor an Administrative decree, so if I somehow missed a chat-logger policy being created, then I would like to read up on it.
  2. Blackmail: "The exertion of pressure or threats in an attempt to influence someone's actions." ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:50, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Welcome BackEdit

Thanks for the warm welcome! I hope to be here for a while to add some GECK information where it's needed. 20:52, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Edit

I just think I am done for now. I have been successfully made into a pariah, and I find myself often being forced to watch helplessly as events unfold in front of me, and seeing every word I say on this wiki being twisted to the point where everyone that sits in chat 24/7 can make me out as if I am some awful person. In this case, I have users openly mocking/trolling me in chat via the chat-logs, using the exact same words you agreed were legible to ban me over, and yet you do nothing even when you are reported talking at the same time your friends are trolling me via the logs. This place has become so stifled with users that are afraid to lift a finger against their friends and leaders, and it is disillusioning to me.

I am absolutely sick of it, and I am disgusted by you advocating and participating in this behaviour with your asinine logic that it is "...human nature...". Want to know what else is human nature? Murder. Rape. Racism. Sexism - the list goes on and on, yet I do not see you defending these, yet you are fully willing to allow our wiki to become such a toxic place that it makes me physically ill at times to see how people act here. And I am obviously not the only one - I have so many users that unfortunately are not vocal, but are constantly coming to users like me because they are sick with how certain users act here. And now, even Chris has thrown up a blog about taking a break, because of how our chat regulars act.

But I will leave that up to you and others. I did not come here to become a pariah. I did not come here to be harassed. And I most certainly did not dedicate years of my life to this place, doing numerous things to help this wiki, just to find myself being made out as some monster, to the point where even the newer generation of users assume me to be some horrible user that deserves shunning. I will continue my Moose activities here, but aside from that, I have no plans to become active here again until I see a proper leadership put back into place. I wish I could be a part of the solution, but it has become clear that there is not much I can do with the way matters are currently being handled here. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 18:49, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

I really do not have much further to say. What I will leave you with is this:
  1. Ever was trolling me via the logs, and you did nothing about it even though you were reported talking at the same time. Even if you did not see it personally, you still are not doing anything about it even with this knowledge in your hands.
  2. You are an enabler. You can spin it all you want, but you are one of the main reasons why our chat-regulars get away with turning simple venting and criticism into blatant hate and harassment. You can pretend I am the only person noticing this, but it is clear as day that most of our wiki users hate going into the chat-room now at certain times - even the people causing the chat to be such a toxic environment.
  3. I have been here since nearly the beginning, and I know what I have seen. We were strong after the split, and in a lot of ways, we were better than the old Administration and how they handled matters. I do not care if you agree with me. I know how the wiki used to be, and I know how the wiki is now. And since 2012, our community has been slowly deteriorating, just as Sodom and Gomorrah did when the people began embracing a hostile and degenerate way of behaving towards each other. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 07:04, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Also, as a side-note, while I do plan on sitting on the side-lines for now, I will not have you passive-aggressively bringing up how I could have been banned in such an unjustified manner again. While hard, I was willing to swallow the fact that Gunny actively was looking for loopholes to ban me/remove my rights simply because Theo left, and never once acknowledged how petty and pathetic that was. And now, you are transparently threatening me by saying I could have been banned for "endangering the wiki", which is utter bullshit and you know it. Not only were the chat-logs non-officially sanctioned by the wiki, meaning that there were no policies or guidelines in place on how to use them, but there is no way in hell that using the logs to keep users accountable was, as you put it in such a sensational way, "Endangering the wiki." I am not asking - I am telling you: you will not talk to me like that again. If you are going to connect me to a possible ban in any way, then it better be clear that I did something actually legible for banning over.
Take these as my final words on this subject, as I am officially washing my hands of this matter. There is a very discernible line between being a martyr, and being a fool. As much as I love Nukapedia, I am not going to stick around trying to fight a hopeless cause against ignorance, when I know nothing will come of it. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 07:19, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Replace criticism with harassment, and understand that it is neither a threat nor blackmail by putting my foot down against your vague threats that you know you can spin off so you will never get into any trouble for them, and you will be correct. I am just making it clear: if you want to want to suggest that I can be or could have been banned, then you better provide a legitimate reason to back up your insinuations, or else you are just blowing smoke, and I am no longer tolerating that. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 08:00, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
First, you are going to have to explain to me how, exactly, I act like the people I have a problem with:
  1. I have never, and I mean never, gone off on some irrelevant tyrade about a user, simply because someone brought up their name. Have I ever been critical of another user? Of course - I have never denied this.
  2. I have never used chat to complain about one or multiple users on a near daily basis.
  3. Contrary to what you want to believe, I do not go around bitching about you to everyone. In-fact, outside of two people, I rarely ever even bring you up in conversation, and with those two people, only very very very very very little of that I tell them, is stuff that I have not said to you as well.
  4. When have I ever complained about users using private conversation information against me? Never. I could not care less if someone calls me out for something I said in private.
Secondly, I want you to explain these:
  1. I use the logs, very rarely, whenever something I think is of importance comes up that requires the need to keep users accountable. How is that abusing the logs? Because I have only used the logs for: explaining a bit on the Clyde reconfirmation, on my chat-ban after report, to explain myself on Raul's request when he was showing signs of not understanding my vote, and when users have personally asked me to prove something by going into the logs. Please explain to me how any of that is wrong. If you have a problem with any of that, it should be the fact that there is a belief going around with certain users, that someone is wrong unless they provide the logs, in which they demand logs to be shown.
  2. The reason why I am telling you to look into what happened in chat, is not because I personally care, else I would be reporting a ton of other people that do the exact same thing. What I am concerned about is that you are pulling double-standards. I would really like for you to explain to me how it is any different when you told Slinger it was okay to ban me because you believed I was trolling Mel, who was not in chat, by saying "Hi, Mel! o/", and then refusing to lift a finger when Ever says "Hi Leon! o/" when I am not in chat, yet you are.
  3. I have broken no rules using the logs. Gunny's bot is gone, and a new bot was put into place that was separate from Gunny's personal rules, and that bot as well had no rules or sanctions attached to it. So when you see me using the logs for a reason you personally dislike, and say there will be consequences, even though you are only basing these consequences off of your own personal rules, that fits the bill of blackmail. If you would have just said that you are feeling uncomfortable with the way the logs were being used, and shut down the bot personally, that would be one thing. But making it out as if it would be my fault should the bot get shut down, in an attempt to get me to act differently, even though it would be you or someone else that would be the reason for the bot shutting down, makes what you said to a scenario of blackmail.
And the final point: How am I supposed to think of you? Ever since you have become a Bureaucrat, you have turned into an entirely different person, and I am not the only one noticing that. You have turned your back on me over stuff we agreed about on Skype, for reasons I am unsure of when it came to actually having a public opinion on the matter. You have gone around calling me a liar and how no one should trust me, all because you interpreted a specific word differently than I did. You are constantly threatening users whenever you do not get your way, even against users that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic/argument at hand. You are slowly dropping your presence here, which is understandable due to your real-world aspirations, but then you choose to use your free time to go around adding onto what makes the chat-room such a poisonous place.
So then we come to what I think you should do. The fact of the matter is, it has gotten to the point where many of us can no longer trust each other, and that is not the fault of a single person. It has gotten to the point where I understand that by standing up for my beliefs now, I am more than likely going to cause some sort of strife on the wiki that would not have happened 2-3 years ago. I do not want that, but at the same time, I am not going to just lie down and take it when I feel an injustice has been done. This type of issue can only be healed with time, and will require baby-steps. So what I think needs to happen, and not just from you, is that everyone needs to stop seeing the chat-room as a place to act in a degenerate manner. You do not let a kid pick on the other kids in class because "Boys will be boys", and if owned an apartment, you would kick out tenants that are upsetting the other tenants and causing others to leave entirely.
I have had more than a few users tell me about how they hate going into our chat a lot of times, and this is how I know what I say to be true. You saying otherwise is not going to change what I have heard from the majority, and we even had a user recently express his feelings on chat and how he wanted to take a break. When it comes to the wiki itself, Nukapedia is still very healthy. And while the chat has improved in a lot of ways, it has also fallen into a bad state in other ways. I think that is what needs to be focused on. Do I believe people need to censor themselves, or suggest that we have special rights users policing every word everyone says? No. But there is a clear difference between criticism/venting, and plain being hateful. When a user gets to being hateful on a nearly daily basis, then you seriously cannot expect for the chat to be some rainbow land where everyone feels secure and happy. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 19:22, June 28, 2014 (UTC)


I take it due to the recent commotion about chatlog abuse it is taken offline? What do you mean by "might be tampered with". That a log recorded off wiki might be tampered with? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:38, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Guess it's back to oldfashioned screencapping then if something happens in chat. Did you see the latest visitor numbers? For a few days now we're close to 1M, and in the top 5 again. I have the feeling that reddit post from the supposedly fired Bethesda employee may have some to do with it. Was an interesting read. So it may seem doom and gloom for a some people here but we're doing all right. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:25, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Caption picker Edit

I don't know about image picking, but I wouldn't mind picking the captions for your contest.

Brandon Fox (talk) 22:34, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

News Edit

Remember that Richie recently made Admin. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 00:26, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit

Ly'ssane Garoux - 寧靜Fox
TALK - 06:13, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Forum Edit

A lot has happened recently, and it has gotten to the point where I have begun contributing to a growing problem. I have been putting a lot of thought into everything, as I hate to see our community suffering - and as I have contributed to the suffering, whether intentional or not, I figure I ought to do my part in finding a more long-term solution. Thinking back on my earlier attempts, I came to the realization that in most of my arguments and theories, I have the tendency to rush my thoughts out, which gives the impression that everything I am saying is based off of personal perspective, when many times, I am basing my social theories around existing studies and examples.

It might take a while, as I have other matters to attend to that take a bit more priority. But I will be gathering my thoughts, so that I might convey them in a more structurally sound manner. I am sending you this message, because you have shown to be either just as invested in this aspect of the wiki as I am, or possibly more. So when I have written my thoughts out, I will be wanting to take that chance for your peer-review before anything is brought to the community.

In a lot of ways, I am still unsure of how you perceive the state of our wiki. I think it is about time a better understanding is found. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 09:41, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

I have thought of that. But then I think of what happened to the Creepy Pasta wiki. I think of what happened to the FF wiki, and what is currently happening to TES wiki. While I only know of what happened to Creepy Pasta because of the after-effects, I have personally seen what has happened to the other two, and I do not want to see our wiki reach that level because we chose to ignore the problem instead of addressing it. Do not worry - what I have in mind is not finger-pointing, nor will it spark some controversial vote. When I am finished, you can let me know what you think. I would guess maybe in a week or two from now. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:05, July 5, 2014 (UTC)
Squabbling is not such big deal. People have opinions, and it is always healthy to have a diverse selection of opinions and beliefs. I will do my best to explain when I get around to writing down my thoughts. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:21, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit


ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 02:40, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Let me know when you are in chat next. It is sensitive, so you are more than likely going to want to know about it. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:37, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Referencing Guideline (Final?) Rough Draft Edit

Finally got a decent draft going, so I'm officially flushing it your way.

Happy reading! --The Ever Ruler (talk) 02:54, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

New Life into Van Buren?Edit

I added a video of a group of fans who try to revive Van Buren on your news digest. Interesting n'est ce pas? Let's keep track of it. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:43, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

News of the wastesEdit

Hey Chad, have you heard that you can become a cartographer, like Cristopher Columbus?

Here is the newest map, while here is the discussion. Energy X 00:10, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

SNM SentinelEdit


Saturday Edit

Yeah, I should be on at that time, assuming my parents don't pull anything. Paladin117>>iff bored; 22:09, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Chad, funny story. Remember how I said I could make it as long as my parents don't interfere? Well, they're interfering. I have to go out tomorrow now so I cannot make it. My apologies. Paladin117>>iff bored; 17:46, August 8, 2014 (UTC)

Reply to:Referencing Edit

Ok yeah I'll try and be there i'll just have to check what time it'll be in australia Enclavesymbol Vice President Spocklan116 03:34, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

CWI Edit

I have never used my previous position here to get my way on other wikis. Literally the only thing I said over my past, is that I have been a long-standing member of Wikia for years now, and that I know what I am talking about (they were making the claim that I knew nothing about Wikia). ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 00:46, August 9, 2014 (UTC)

That one thingEdit

  • "Pre-War cops were getting really tough with punishments for drivers running stop signs."-RaulTheGhoul
  • "Those street officers had enough of people violating traffic laws, so they took the matter in their own hands." -Energy X
  • "If this stop sign wielding madman doesn't stop you from reaching New Vegas, the deathclaws up ahead certainly will." -Anon (
  • "The Courier...causing post-apocalyptic traffic jams since 2281" -Coloneljosef
  • "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with stop signs and stones." -OfficialLolGuy
  • "if there was ever a sign I should stop smoking, this was it" -JASPER42

NCR-Enclave -JASPER42
Fo2 McClure -Jspoelstra
BigChiefLogo -JASPER42
Ballcap with glasses -Jspoelstra

How are these? (wouldn't have done my own images but I didn't see many others that weren't for peace's blog)

Jasper: The Wonder that is Shroomman! 01:13, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Forum for News DigestEdit

The vote was bound sooner or later to happen. Energy X 11:03, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Quorum Edit

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Addition to news digestEdit

This looks interesting and related enough to me to be added to the news digest, don't you think? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:48, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

We couldn't let this one slip by. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:57, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
Err... as much as the news are appreciated, the game was released 31st August 2013. Energy X 22:59, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, too bad. Did we have an item about it last year then? Don't remember. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:06, August 16, 2014 (UTC)


Ah, here's the reminder of the food blog. Energy X 23:35, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hey brah I just did a blog about Fallout New Vegas on Tumblr. I was thinking that maybe you could stop by to give an opinion or an idea or something. I named it "The Prospector Saloon". It is still in development so i am open to suggestions and all that. If you want to know more just ask that I will give you the link. Grazie mate --StevenSeagull (talk) 22:33, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Tumblr blog Edit

Hey brah I just did a Tumblr blog about Fallout New Vegas If you want to know more just ask. I am sorry but I don't have time to say anything else --StevenSeagull (talk) 22:36, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Link :D Edit

[2] I think that this is it. I am still working on the colors and avatar and I haven't posted anything yet...

Temp mod in chat Edit

Just a heads-up, I've appointed User:The-Gunslinger as a temporary chat mod. I'll also leave this message on the other BC's talk pages.Richie9999 (talk) 04:13, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

  • Tried to ping you in chat but to no avail. Would like these temp mod rights removed. You are not in chat like it shows and some other admin or Bureaucrat who is active now could remove them it would be nice. RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Moderator..." Wiki 08:13, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

So... Edit

What do you think of the Saloon? I already started posting stuff :D--StevenSeagull (talk) 15:16, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Shadow of Mordor versus tournamentEdit

Hi Chad!

I'm reaching out to see if your community would like to be a part of a versus tournament we're hosting on the Shadow of Mordor wikia. It would go live in September, and we would be pitting Veronica Santangelo against Ioreth from Shadow of Mordor. The voting would live in a blog on Shadow of Mordor and we would post a button on Veronica's page here encouraging your community to vote for them. On the voting blog we would link back to your wikia, and we'll be promoting the tournament around Wikia. If your community would like to be a part of the tournament, which would include the button on Veronica's page as well as a link back to your community from the voting blog, please let me know by 8/29.

Thank you! Mark@Wikia (talk) 22:20, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

I like the idea of a button. We can always advertise ourself in a news digest, can't we? Or a small blog from Mark here. We can do both. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 22:50, August 25, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the fast response! I also like the idea of posting a home page blog instead, or even posting both the button and the blog. I'll leave it up to you guys to decide, so let me know what you prefer. Mark@Wikia (talk) 15:54, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Dead Gunner's banEdit

What happened? Is an infinite ban really necessary? He had bans from 3 to 1 day, then the last one 2 hours which was undone. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 23:03, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Personality quizEdit

Hey, if you are interested, maybe you can add this personality quiz for the news. Energy X 22:27, August 29, 2014 (UTC)


I need to be put on the inactive mods/admins list and you know why, if you or someone else could do it, I'd appreciate it. Dead Gunner's SMG JPG1 "Float" 07:20, September 1, 2014 (UTC)


Psst, Chad, just a reminder about the Hole's update was supposed to be yesterday... Energy X 22:44, September 2, 2014 (UTC)


Yes. Damn security. It didn't accept my IP anymore because of a new PC I think. I sent an email to you with a new password. But now it turns out I still can't login. Can you help me out somehow? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 00:05, September 8, 2014 (UTC)


Cola defeated the Krabby Patty in the last round! We face the Bacon Pancakes in this round!

Energy X 20:06, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Soundfiles mayhemEdit

I sent a request to Wikia about the soundfiles. They are pushed down the infobox and it's affecting a lot of pages. It got a quick response, which was:

It looks like this is a related to a change we implemented to fix an issue with videos - we had to tweak centered media to clear content before and after it. This appears to have been a side-effect of the change - I will inform the technical team and we'll look into what we may be able to do to fix this.

So this way you're informed, if anyone should ask later on, maybe in chat. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 15:13, September 17, 2014 (UTC)


Ah, chat crashed. Please report to the conversation office. Energy X 21:05, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

*whispers* That is a PM. Energy X 21:08, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sarah LyonsEdit

Chad, you think you could get in contact with Matt Grandstaff from Bethesda for some advice on a reference? I saw a great one added to Sarah Lyons and am very tempted to let it stay where it is, even if it's not iron-clad. Maybe also some news about the Fallout 3 add-ons voice actors...? Jspoel Speech Jspoel 20:13, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

Twitter Edit

Going to skip the obvious points and cut to the chase, since we both understand what is going on between the lines: we already know that you are going through the efforts to talk other users into unfollowing us, as well as doing so personally. This I do not care about, and does not warrant any discussion - however, please keep in mind that the community did support our two communities becoming official affiliates, and that does mean that we are connected to the official Twitter account, as we both, in the past and even the present, have relayed information through each other.

The official Nukapedia Twitter is community-ran, so please keep in mind that you do not get to make unilateral decisions to distance it from an official affiliate, all because you have a personal issue with us. If you continue to act in such a biased manner against us, then I will respectfully ask for you to relinquish your control over the official Twitter account, onto someone else (not me or Chris). I would really like for relations to continue in a peaceful manner, but I am fully willing to start a community forum over this if you continue hijacking the official Twitter for your own personal ends.

I am not really willing to discuss this too much further, but I am willing to hear what you have to say on this matter, and the reasoning involved with your actions. So, in conclusion, I am fine with you and other independently unfollowing us over social outlets - however, please keep our official pages out of your personal views, when we are, indeed, official affiliates. Thank you for your time. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 03:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Here is what I am looking at:

  1. You start an entire forum to complain about our Twitter, instead if coming to either of us directly.
  2. Shortly after Chris leaves his last message, you unfollow me, Chris, and the official SNM Twitter.
  3. Not even 10-30 minutes after you unfollow all 3, so does Nukapedia.
  4. You were the last person to post anything on Twitter, and you are the one on there essentially 98% of the time.
  5. As for the telling people to unfollow us, I said that that was not worth going into further discussions over, as all I have is that 11-13 other people also unfollowed us at the same time as you did, and nearly all of them were from Nukapedia (a few were just random people that are not connected to either Nukapedia or the Moose - but only a few). Since I have no real proof aside from the considerable circumstantial evidence, I will just drop that like I had already dropped it earlier.

But the rest paints a rather clear picture to me, and all I am asking is to have the official Twitters brought back together since they are affiliated with each other by the community. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 11:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

My worry is not that you can harm the Moose. My primary concern at the moment is that we are official affiliates, and it has been decided, without any formal sort of discussion, whatsoever, to partially cut us off from Nukapedia in this manner. And while I do not have 100% proof that it was you, the circumstantial evidence most certainly points towards you, as both you and Nukapedia unfollowing us within such a short period of time is very telling. Then, even though you know of what has happened, and you are suggesting there might be a security breach that needs to be investigated, it has still been 5 hours since our message, and no attempt has been made to return our Twitter affiliation.
I will apologize if someone else steps up, or if it is discovered that there was some sort of security breach. But at this time, I do have grounds for my accusation, as the evidence is coming from two different accounts, with both acting in the exact same manner within such a short period of time. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 12:07, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
Also, please stop making the assumption that I am out to get you. I have done everything I can to return to normality, and I have never taken out any sort of grudge against you. I still have you as an ambassador, as you mentioned I have still allowed you access to our Twitter, and contrary to what you believe, I hardly ever speak about you. I did speak with Chris extensively over this matter, but that is only because he is essentially the second-in-command over at the Moose, and we always share our thoughts when it concerns our community. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 12:12, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
A good suggestion, but an impossible one - I always have safeguards put into place for as many sites as possible, in which I am sent an E-Mail alert if someone else tries to, or manages to access my accounts. Twitter is one of those sites that allows such an option. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 12:49, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I read that wrong. In that case, I have already acknowledged that there is a small chance that someone else that has access did this. Which is why I am also looking at you doing the exact same thing a short time before Nukapedia followed suit (you did follow me, as my account used to be the official account, and I gave you access to that one, as well). Anyways, I do not really have the time to draw this out, and like you, I am already tired of the discussion.
All we are asking for is for our Twitter affiliation to be reinstated, or for a community forum to go up if our social media affiliation is under question. If there is a possibility that there was some sort of security breach, and that you genuinely know nothing of the matter, then I will leave the rest in your hands. All I know is what I saw happen in the span of returning back to my account after only being away for a short period, and I would simply like to see the affiliation return. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 12:58, September 22, 2014 (UTC)


Sounds good to me. If you say you didn't do any such thing then that's good enough for me. Bit of a strange accusation, especially if he can't back it up. We'll see how he responds. Hope the good way so we have get back to having a bit of fun here instead of annyoing each other. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 06:44, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I left a message with my view on the matter on Leon's talkpage. That's from my perspective. Hope it helps. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 21:41, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Time's almost up for review of SNMEdit

I just reread the authorization of the affiliation with the SNM. It was clearly stated that the association would be reviewed after 6 months. That will be in 8 days. I was wondering what form that review will take? Another forum to discuss the advantages/disadvantages? Just wanted to get the ball rolling on this, please let me know. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 19:59, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Affiliation Edit

I just wanted to correct you on something, as it is a rather important detail:

It was made clear to us, in public and in private, that we were to undergo a 6 month trial period, and a final decision would be made at the end of that 6 months, in-case we died off in that time or did something to alienate ourselves from Nukapedia. The deal was never that we would have to have a re-evaluation at the end of every 6-months. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:30, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Also, I did notice that Duncan started that forum. I am sending him this message as well, and please let me know if I also need to message another appropriate party. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:35, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
It is my fault for not clarifying - I just saw that you were the first bureaucrat to respond to the forum, and I so I am referring to this: "The community vote will take place to legitimise the renewal for another six months upon the termination of the current affiliation." I was not referring to anything you said specifically, so I apologize for the miscommunication. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:38, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
Conspiracy? What in the world are you talking about? ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:39, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia newsEdit

Hey, C, Wikia has made a new beta navigation, though it affects a certain amount of Wikis for now. You can see it and read here. Energy X 17:56, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Request to lock my profile pageEdit

Hi Agent c, I would like to request to protect my page for 1 week against vandals, they are getting on my nerves, sorry. --Jarence chan 12:24, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

The Chat is Getting Out of HandsEdit

Hi c, This user is trolling on chat. --user:Jarence chan 14:05, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

nevermind, NCR and X already took care of it --Jarence chan 14:09, September 27, 2014 (UTC)


Even if it is not important, I think it might be good to include this blog in the next news. It is important, especially to any admin. Energy X 21:08, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

You sure know how to give a man a heart attack. Edit

G'day, Agent. Just had a look at last week's news, and saw all this talk about Bethesda cancelling Fallout 4 and stopping work on RPGs. Don't scare me like that!

Jonesy95 (talk) 03:35, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Worthy of a mention in the news?Edit The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 19:55, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Need HelpEdit

Chat won't load, need to talk, please help. Thelonedrifter0 (talk) 14:09, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


Hey C, Wikia made a new gallery feature (still in beta). You can read it here and include it in the News Digest, if you wish. Energy X 16:41, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

A Request Edit

Sorry to bother you, if you get the chance tonight, please PM me in the chat. I've got something I need help with. Thelonedrifter0 (talk) 19:10, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

New galleryEdit

C, about Wikia's new gallery, we could already implement it if we wanted, as it is available in Wikia Labs (won't be mandatory, for now...). The Council members were in on the progress, I knew about it anyway. But I don't like it (and I do have a good eye for images I think), and if you read the comments on the blog you can see why. You can also try it for yourself and see how it looks. Put ?gallery=new behind the page its name. The images are cut into a square and they're massive, squished together. Sometimes with an uneven number they're even bigger. Don't even consider it worth a try at the moment. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 11:25, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Bad Screenshots for captioningEdit Corgi (talk) 15:59, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

Request Temp Chat ModEdit

Hello Chad, I would like to take the temporary Chat mod since there are no moderators inside the chatroom. --Cassie.Y MikuPink534629280947623198Talk 02:25, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Chad, when can I meet you in the chat today? Energy X 12:45, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Dear Agent c,

I say this with the utmost sincerity and respect that I can offer, so please don't mistaken this as a act of provocation or slandering (which is why I truly wanted to tell you this in private, instead of a publically visible post). I was trying to remove the post you made on my talk page (not out of shame, but as a way to bury the past, if you ever wish for me to give you more details then that then I'd be happy to next time we're both in chat), yet it was returned by Cassie under one of this wikia's rules (fair enough).

Though this is where I see an error, my post was returned, yet my post I left you awhile ago isn't visible on you're talk page (which I assume was removed by you for some reason), which I find most unfair. I'm not trying to sound over-sensitive, arrogant or disrespectful, but I find this pretty hypocritical and ironic (so far, the only explanation I've come to is that the reason this was is because of you're current status here).

Which I believe is self-defeating cause what's the point in rules, if not even the highest ranking of members follow them? As one of the main members of FW you have a responsibility to uphold the rules and being a role model that others here look up to I firmly believe (and if any see you or any others of such status acting that way I fear it'd cause a bad precedent that would probably enable others to not follow the rules too).

I know this cause I saw it took place before multiple times on a site I use to browse years ago (out of respect for some former friends there I won't mention it publicly, though I would mention it to you in pm, if you wish to know more about it).

I know I'm just some random average-joe ranting to you, but I speak the truth (at least how I perceive it anyways). So please, may you return my comment I made to you (if you won't remove mine, just to make this fair, just and mutual)?

Anyways that's all I had to say, I'll be awaiting you're response and I thank you for you're time. Take care and farewell (have a pleasant day/night).

Sincerely yours, TheOracle7. TheOracle7 (talk) 23:34, November 4, 2014 (UTC) TheOracle7

chat Edit

hey can you come into chat please? I need to talk 12:41, November 7, 2014 (UTC)


Yeah. I'm in now, just lit a cigar and will be around for probably an hour and half or so, then again later tonight after dinner. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 21:12, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Checks Edit

Since you have given that discussion a read, what is your opinion on what I should classify the images as? I originally put that I was the creator of the images, since I was referring to the cards. But Jasper brought up a good point there, and after checking out the license, I see that it added a copyright symbol to the image... that definitely needs to be changed. So what would be your best guess as to proper licensing in this case? In any case, I will have that changed later today. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 14:03, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds about right to me - I will keep that in mind as I reclassify the licenses later. Will probably delete a few images, as I already did with 2 - I have discovered 4 copyrighted works from my images, and I have already sent messages asking for permission to use them. Will more than likely take a while to hear back from them, so I will go ahead and have those taken off. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 14:15, November 16, 2014 (UTC)
Cannot really stop you there, and I guess it does not matter - I can just keep a text-based blog here, and place the images onto CC along with the blog, after I get through checking the images. Wikia Staff knows about the public domain images, and have no problems with them so far - not to mention that playing the game itself is entirely text-based due to incompatibilities. With our hosts not having a problem with my use of public domain images, and with my legal use of them until being notified of which ones are illegitimate, I am not entirely sure where your fear of me putting the wiki into danger lies.
I guess the only thing left to say is that this reminds me a bit of when my dad and I would go to parks to take pictures, and we regularly had people threaten to call the cops on us because we were taking pictures of people without their permission. An extremely common misconception, but something that the law supports 100% regardless of such a misconception that even many cops believe in. Just because something does not sound right to you, does not mean that it is illegal (ignorance =\= representation of the law). Anyways - back to work. I still have to try and fit in 164 image checks this week and juggle physical therapy. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:03, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
I am really slapping myself over that one. I used dozens of sites, and I did not bother to favourite them since typically, all that was available were the images. So, unfortunately, I cannot provide the sources. But I have integrity - I have already replaced images that turned out not to be public domain, and I will do the same for any other images discovered.
If you have any information on illegitimate images that I am using, then I would be grateful if you notified me. I am having a lot of trouble trying to search around for each image, and I want to make sure that I am not missing any. Anyways, sorry if this has seemed like a fight - I do understand where you all are coming from, as I want to provide credit wherever possible. I think that the only real difference presented here, is that I find it unrealistic to be able to prove the authenticity of every single image I use.
If it ends up with the images being removed, it will not actually affect the game at all. The images were only created to provide a visual example as to what every card does. Since the gameboard removes all images from cards anyways, this will not be a huge change, and the tournament can proceed with no hitches. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 01:17, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
I thought I would have the time, but I do not. If you feel that it is for the best, the images should be taken down for now. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 17:09, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

( I know how you feel, but personally I feel the pressure on Garoux of crediting these images is a bit overdone to be honest. I'd classify it as fair use. But that's just me. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 18:02, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Have to say I've not scrutinized the details of the fair use policy. Perhaps he doesn't qualify then if you take it to the letter. As I see it, he doesn't intend to make personal profit (even giving away some prizes) on it or disavantage others, it's all a bit fun and game for everyone and the cards/game will only get a little bit more fame from this tournament. He's made a lot of work of it, spending a lot of his spare time on it, and gets shot down on a good attempt. You can't expect him to find every creator of an image (found a few of my own), and I felt the disclaimer was good enough. Well, the images are deleted now..., if he wants to place them on CC on link them here, let him do that then. No harm in that, in my view anyway. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 17:07, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

CC Edit

I have been fine with the concerns presented, and I have been trying to do my best to address them, even when I have 2 jobs and physical therapy keeping me busy most days. But I do find it exceptionally disrespectful, to go behind my back over this, without even letting me know of the conversation being had behind my back.

The going behind my back is not a problem, as I would have done the same thing in a similar circumstance with any other user. But you have a real problem with blind-sighting people, by not giving the common courtesy of linking to/relaying important discussions about them.

No need to respond to this: nothing else needs to be said, and I will more than likely not respond even if you do. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 07:51, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Why would I have? None of the discussions I have had with Sannse, have been about you or Jasper. The conversation you started on CC, was specifically about me, named me, and involved possible legalities, which means that was a discussion that required my mandatory presence, yet you failed to notify me of it. That is what I have a problem with, and your speculation as to anything I discuss with Sannse, is both wrong and irrelevant. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 20:47, November 23, 2014 (UTC)
Are you insane? First of all: I speak with Sannse over Skype. If I did speak to her through E-Mail, though, I would be legally liable by sharing with you any responses from Wikia's E-Mail accounts. Second of all: I am not going to share anything I say in private with Sannse, unless she gives me permission. Third: what is it with you and the false speculation? You are still wrong in your assertion. When Sannse becomes involved at CC, she will say the same thing, as our discussions are typically, and strictly, professional, with discussions regarding TtG fitting into those two categories of discussion.
I would highly advise for you to set your biases aside, and stop fabricating discussions between Sannse and me, based off of your feelings of me. It is not making you look good - and I am sure that Sannse is not going to appreciate reading what you wrote on CC, either. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:01, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Finished Edit

Here is the deal: you took my comment, saying that I have discussed TtG with Sannse, and her position upon allowing me to host it on CC with her blessing, and you decided to arrogantly pretend as if you were involved in that discussion to the degree of understanding what was said, and then you fabricated the conversation as an arguing point, using points that are not true, which is something that Sannse herself will more than likely confirm when she becomes involved.

So I have nothing further to say. You are going into highly unprofessional realms, and I no longer want a part in it. Since you continued acting like you had a part in the private discussions had between Sannse and me, I have decided to file a formal complaint with Wikia Staff. I have no idea if that is something they will even take into consideration, but it is still something I feel obligated to do, as in no way should you ever be fabricating such discussions. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:19, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

User Conflicts Edit

Both you and GarouxBloodline have been in a conflict and this needs to stop. You have both left messages on each others talk pages to the effect of being done talking to the other and I suggest you adhere to that. Richie9999 (talk) 02:26, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Chat Edit

Could you pop into chat within the next hour or so? Need to run something by you before I make my final decision. Thank you. RangerSequoia "Some say this user used to be a Moderator..." Wiki 06:57, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Things Edit

Hey Chad. Haven't heard from you in awhile! Would you mind chatting me up on Skype? I wanted to discuss some things about NotY this year =) --Skire (talk) 20:58, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Fallout 4??? Edit

I have heard a lot regarding the suspected future release of a fourth installment in the fallout series. Does anyone know if this is necessarily true, or is this really just a hoax? I have looked on many sources and have found much conflicting information.-- 16:23, December 4, 2014 (UTC)Swaggalicious

IRC Edit

Hey, so like I said in the webchat I'm one of the OPs of the IRC channel ##fallout on freenode. We've been around (albeit on a different channel) since late October 2013 (right before thesurvivor2299 hoax happened), and we've managed to remain active since then. At this point we have maybe about 40 people who can be found in our channel, with 10-25 being online at any given time. Our goal is to create an active chat where Fallout fans from all over the web can join together, and we would love to work with the Nukapedia leadership to make that happen. When you get a chance let me know if you and rest of the leadership here are interested in working with us, and feel free to stop by ##fallout at any time! I look forward to hearing from you! --Hitops (talk) 21:41, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

Old chat logsEdit

Can you guys think of any reasonable reason why we should keep the old chat logs around? I don't see any, since they are so dated. I reckon we should just delete the whole mess of them. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 03:29, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Interview on Wikia Games HubEdit

Did you ask Wikia to add the Rene Auberjonois interview to the Games Hub From the Community? I don't see it there yet. Jspoel Speech Jspoel 14:03, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Request Edit


I have a request.

Can you paint logo for my wiki?

(It is Russian)

Всегда Ваш, GoldenGroza! 18:56, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

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