User blog:Ausir/Bethesda's lawyers use The Vault and some other lawsuit details

To be honest, I doubt you could word the statement in a way which would not be somewhat similar to what's in the FAQ, considering it's about the same arguments.

Hmm... I wonder, if we had totally made up all of the stuff we had on V13, would the lawsuit swing in Interplay's favor?

not really bc they still would have nto got the moeny to make the game

Actually, the best proof that they used the wiki is that the information is not entirely accurate. "Vault 13" was indeed an early working title, but not the *initial* one.

I have only one thing to say to bethesda.

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2 of my favorite game companies are fighting over my favorite game franchise.. this sux..

@ anon 22:15:

according to the true stella awards, every american pays $34 a year in tax just to fund lawsuits

To the guy above me ^ ....RIGHT ON....They should please their buyers more thats NOT just MS its all of us on PS3 too.

Bethesda fights with Interplay... That just can't fit in to my head... I mean why in the f*ck are they fighting if they have no f*ckning reason for it?!?!?!

OMFG bethesda stop being greedy ^%$#$%%^$#@ seriously the game has flyed of the shelfs. they got paid by M$ to do timed exclusive DLC. the bloody game even got GOTY and has its own GOTY edition comming. GOTY? only if that abbreviates to buggiest game ever released. every 5 minutes the friggin thing freezes.

Interplay needs to start OBEYING THE LAW. It has a bad track record of NOT doing so.

@ Anon did your mother ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say go fuck yourself

I find it funny that the Fallout Trilogy was ok when it was being sold physically, but when it became a downloadable game, it suddenly "jeopardizes Fallout 3's sales (which is a bullshit argument)." Even though Bethesda has total free reign to do this, I think it isn't right and they could've done something about this issue BEFORE THE DAMN THING WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC WHEN IT WAS OFFICIALLY HINTED AT FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED.

Well, Bethesda Should Shut up and dont worry. If it is V13 and Is the online game, Then they have every right to sue em, but seeing as it isn't Its not cool. Besides, this stupid lawsuit is distracting them from more important stuff like Video games and fans and video games. Thanks alot Bethesda you Blew my mind again

at this rate there will never be a fallout online:( dam lawsuits!

I think Bathesda has issue with the term Trilogy is used for the pack when the third fallout is no part of the package. Easy for someone to be confused if they see fallout 3 and then fallout trilogy right next to it for only 20 bucks.

It's funny you use the term monopolize, at it's root it an economics term. Ya see Bethesda is a company just like any other, they expect other companies to play by the rules. Just because interplay made a very good game a while back does not mean they are exempt from these rules. Since they broke the rules and tried to screw Bethesda out of money, they deserve to suffer all the consequences. They tried to pull some sneaky bullshit and they were caught, this is how the world works. They tried to pull some other shit a while back, turns out THEIR OWN PEOPLE don't appreciate it when their company doesn't pay them. Interplay does not deserve your pity, they are not the saviors of Fallout, and left to their own means they will never produce another Fallout game ever again. Obsidian's "New Vegas" is your best hope for recapturing what you think Interplay can still make. Fallout isn't dead, Interplay is. This is the hard truth, accept it.

Guys stop, Beth's games are great although I do agree....GIVE PS3 USERS THE FRIGGIN DLCS. No, I play it on PC, but it's not about pleasing Micro$oft it's about pleasing the fan base. No fans = no money.

Anyways give Beth a break fan boys, they have the right to sue them if it's legit, as any company is able to.

Excactly. Graphics were awesome, story line was shit.

The Characters were lifeless and posessed none of the wit, charm and survival needs from the first two games. Actions were almost without consequence. There was only one real town, not much decent trading to be done. Giant titan robot for killing people? come on, lame.

It was ok as a FPS goes but did not have the spark of life present in the originals. I think Bethesda just have no balls, to scaired to make a real fallout sequel, so we got the sensored version.

The graphics were realy good tho :)

I've never seen so many people whining about something they have no control over. Enjoy it or don't buy it. Don't bitch to yourselves because you didn't have the patience to try before you buy. I like the game though, a very nice freshman rebirth of an otherwise dead franchise.

Fu**ing Bethesda, such greedy bastards, like they haven't made enough money off Fallout 3 anyway and they are sueing Interplay for "cannibalizing Fallout 3's sales".

Sounds like Bethesda are a bunch of jerks... Claiming that the old Fallout titles are cannibalizing their market for FO3 - embarrassingly stupid.

"just enjoy the games"

First of all, Fallout 3, isn't that enjoyable, and plus it also fished alot of money. Though Broken Steel was good, why add a new DLC, when bethseda could've added it in the original game. It was for money, this is why betheseda sued Interplay, and also, i think Todd Howard was saying something about "I was really pushing everyone to get the rights", or something, and he said it would be really fun to work with this new genre. What he meant to post is, "I was really pushing everyone to get the rights, so we can fish money from the people, you know guys, that isn't a bad idea...." Thats what he meant to say...

You know, this is a little silly. Bethesda required Interplay to raise money in order to develop Fallout Online, and so they repackaged and re released the first three fallout in order to raise that money. So, Bethesda sued them. That makes a lot of sense /sarcasm

Pleasing Fallout fans is an impossible endeavor. If the hand of God came down tomorrow and developed a new Fallout game, the headlines would read "God to develop new fallout title; Fallout fans pissed"

I like Fallout 1 and 2 as much as the next guy, but people seem to deify them in retrospective. Fallout 1 and 2 were also buggy as hell on release. Try playing them unpatched. But people are willing to overlook that.

As far as the lawsuits are concerned, they both seem to make sense to me. The Fallout Trilogy pack does seem suspect... trilogy seems to imply a game and its two sequels, not a game, a sequel, and a spinoff...

Maybe instead of Beth suing Interplay ... All disgruntled owners of the bodgily coded Fallout 3 should sue them in a class action ... for making a product that will not work properly unless tweaked to the max or fixed by community members!

As it stands, Bethesda is in the right here. They paid money, consideration, for a contract and rights to be acquired by it. Rights Interplay specifically agreed to. Interplay didn't play by the rules on two different occasions and even told Bethesda to it's face that it could do what it wants regardless of the agreement in consideration for V13.

Sure Bethesda might have taken an argument point from a wiki, but as one person said that doesn't make it invalid. If they took law from a wiki and tried to apply it, then they would be laughed out of court.

You might hate Bethesda, and you might hate Interplay... It doesn't matter. This is a valid claim between the two that needs to be settled. As for the production of new games or DLC from Bethesda, a lawsuit is not going to stop them. They have the rights and there is no question towards their ability to do so.

That's the reason for a legal department. That way the other departments can do their job while the lawyers do theirs.

Its strange that anyone wants to put the franchise back in Interplays hands. According to Chris Taylor, Interplay more or less ruined Fallout Tactics, and... Fallout POS? FALLOUT POS??

For Gods sake Bethesda you would'nt even have Fallout 3 if it werent for Bethesda .

Bethesda own fallout, just face it. If you buy a loaf of bread from a shop, you're not expected to give some of it back to the shopkeeper to sell again and it's the same principle. People here just complain cause they hate Bethseda for "ruining" fallout. As has been said, the first 2 we're extremely buggy too, and I'm sorry if this sounds naive, but could you really make a game in 2008 that remains the same as it was over ten years before? Bethesda brought the fallout serires into the 21st century. You can't get away with making games with 10-20 locations in as an RPG, not these days. People may say it's too similar to Oblivion, but thats hardly true. Sure, they added a traversable world map and random, non-storyline specific locations, but it's called EVOLVING, all the base concepts are the same as the originals. BIS themselves even began to shift towards realtime combat, as shown in Fallout: Tactics, so this is just the natural evolutionary step. Well, this comments probably gonna get slated nonetheless, but I think people here are just blaming Bethesda for Interplays shortcomings.

It doesnt really matter does it? u got games like Fallen Earth and Borderlands coming out for god's sake! Stop moaning, groaning, and bitching cause it aint gonna do no good... You wanna vent that frustration, start up fallout 3 or whatever and gun down entire towns. Go out and get, or in this case, pre-order Borderlands and enjoy 1 million weapons and 10 thousand parts for your vehicles! Or play Fallen Earth, and build on your own 95% of everything in the game! Just STOP wasting your energy here!

i side with bethesda. interplay sold the creative rights. they belonged to the company not the creators themselves, so now that bethesda owns them thay can do what they want. Even is sueing wasn't necessary, it is completely within their rights. And PS3 users quit bitching about DLCs. Bethesda is a BUSINESS meant to earn MONEY not please YOU. So therefore; it is run like a business. They saw that releasing DLCs to Microsoft would be more profitable than Sony, especially because there are more Xbox 360 and PC users playing the game. be patient.

It's all about monetary gain i say forget both bethesda and interplay. The fans can argue for both sides , but all we really want is a dam good game that exceeds all of our expectations. If we could all somehow put our heads together, not for money, but for purely an ultimate gaming experience than they would both be S. O. L. lol

why cant interplay and bethesda hug and make up and do the game both togetherit would make the perfekt mmorpg if they would...

please guys at both bethesda and interlay dropp everything say both your sorry and work on this thing together!

"As has been said, the first 2 we're extremely buggy too..."

Oh lol... are you kidding me? I have never crashed in Fallout 1, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics... EVER. On x86 or x64 OS! I still have them installed! Intellectual Property isn't like a loaf of bread. It's like buying the the right to exclusively use the recipe FOR bread, and then turning out nothing but really shitty oatmeal... and that's EXACTLY what Bethesda did. No doubting their ownership, but calling their game "Fallout" is like me naming my dog "Car" and then trying to drive him to work.

Interplay IS Fallout. Sorry, Bethesda can make all the attempts in the world but Fallout is gone now, probably forever.

Bethesda did every dirty trick in the book to try to kill Interplay. In no way does fallout trilogy OR FOR THAT MATTER FALLOUT SAGA! try to convince the consumer your getting fallout 3.

Bethesda broke the contact and now they are screwed. The 2nd contact will be null and Bethesda will get burned.