Talk:United States of America
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Well, United States of America means in this article - US flag and Commonwealths.--dotz 05:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I have to say, I really like the idea of 13 "Commonwealth's" (adds to that whole messed up and different United States feeling) but really, Texas and Arkansas? Do we have any information from Sawyer or Chris on their reasoning behind the divisions? DarkUnderlord 05:52, 4 June 2006 (EDT)
- No idea (we could always e-mail them about it, though). Although I actually *like* the fact that the divisions aren't entirely reasonable, but were done for some vague political reasons. Ausir 05:59, 4 June 2006 (EDT)
Talking about "shadow US goverment":
- is US president presence on the oil rig hypothesis or some more sure information form designers?
- otherwise - check desiganted survivor procedures.Dotz
Remember about Federal District. After the War is was the oil rig.--194.146.219.130 09:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- a kind of...Original DC was a part of some Commonwealth, the oil rig just technically was federal district (and the Enclave mainland bases were federal property), for more detalis see: Federal government.--dotz 05:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I think the double source box in the Commonwealth section is redundant. I don't remember reading about the Commonwealths much in the VB documents so maybe we should cut that box and just leave Sawyer's PNP box. Daesch 01:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
While I am on the subject of the Commonwealths, I thought I'd put together a map of how I would distribute the States. I was not satisfied with all the generic names Mr Sawyer used in his map nor was I satisfied in his distribution. Hawaii, which is not on this map, would be governed by Alta California.
- Of course commonwealth division is fully described at Sawyer's PnP, however some Commonwealths were mentioned in van Buren also - check eg. Denver design document carefully as well as van Buren tech demo. Your names for commonwealths are a kind of fanfic, so please do not change it in articles. I can't see purpose for changing name of Alaska, in Fallouts it was simply Alaska (however due to distance I don't think Sawyer's idea to place it in North Commonwealth was right).--dotz 08:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Fallout Flag
Whilst watching the film 'Fatherland' I noticed this flag (or something very similar) as the Flag of the USA on a street banner in conjunction with a Swastika. Fatherland is an alternate timeline film where the Nazis won and 20 years after their victory they are in a detente with the USA which has just had its new president JFK.
87.194.234.156 21:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I have wondered about the flag, and noticed an anomaly on the loading screens, see here. Is this current day US flag an error in the picture?
http://www.gamebanshee.com/showshot.php?/screenshots/fallout3/loadingscreens/screenshot39.jpg
Most likely an oversite, but an in universe explation could the poster was made to be nostalgic
- Yeah, looks like an oversight on the part of the artist. Ausir(talk) 18:23, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Stars on the Flag
I was just looking at the number of stars on the flag in Fallout 3 at the Museum of Technology and it is as this article says, but the image that is shown has 13 stars with one in the middle. Should we revert it back? -Firba1 20:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
[edit] "No side gaining a meaningful advantage"
"with both sides unable to gain any sort of meaningful advantage over the other. Even the mighty T-45d Power Armor units don't tip the scales, as China's Crimson Dragoon units rampage behind American lines, disrupting logistics and transport."
correct me if im wrong,but Hadn't the U.S. turned back the chinese in alaska? Would any body mind if I made a slight alteration until it's proved that it was a stalemate?
- Well, it was the T-51b that won the Alaska campaign which wasn't introduced until 2076.--Amitakartok 18:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] An opinion
Every Fallout game up to date has been in the U.S. Not that I have a problem with this as it is a great part of what makes Fallout, but would anybody find it interesting to see a spin-off (or eventual add-on in the future) in another country like Canada or even China? Just putting this out there and I'm just looking for other users' opinions. --SSDGFCTCT9 01:42, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
I'd like a game set in Europe and China to. I mean Europe would be an interesting experience due to the fact that it is really fucked up ( worse than America, i mean why dud Tenpenny come over in the first place)And China could be the America of the East
[edit] Article Name
I personally think that the think that the article should be moved to "United States" for the sake of brevity. -- M.C.Tales 20:16, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Brevity is not really a concern when the title of the article is the full name of the article's subject.--Gothemasticator 22:27, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Capital Congressmen
This page isn't really the place for analysis of President Eden's speeches, but I'd like to suggest that the statement, In his speech about baseball, he makes mention of what is likely a Washington DC-based team, the Capital Congressmen, playing teams from every state, including Pennsylvania and Maryland, may be a naive reading of the Baseball speech. I believe a more sinister interpretation would be more appropriate to the Enclave. From one interpretation, that gives us "what is likely a Washington DC-based team", President Eden sincerely related the history of baseball in Fallout's America for the benefit of his fictional audience and us the players. In that case, the purpose of this monologue is to provide some world-building detail and to expose some of President Eden's motivation, that he wants Americans to be able to watch baseball teams play again. From another interpretation, President Eden is deliberately obfuscating history to enable a more autocratic regime. The "Capital Congressmen" is a lie intended to confuse wastelanders about the representational form of government the United States had before the Great War. Eden's motivation is to lay the ground-work for denying arguments to re-establish Congress.
- The statement in the article is there merely to acknowledge the mention of governmental bodies in in-game text. It makes no claims to do more than that. In any case, Eden's sincerity has no bearing on the truth or falsehood of the existence of the team. He could just as easily be insincere about a real team as he could about a made-up one.--Gothemasticator 07:07, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
