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Photo[]
It looks like the screenshot selected was taken with the Commando perk as I only see 31 damage.
Tyler Szabo (talk) 04:10, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
DPS?[]
Is this the correct DPS?
Based on the default Submachine gun as well as the Silver submachine gun (which also looks wrong but on the high side - 127 rounds/sec? Not likely!), this S&P SMG DPS seems incredibly low.
The listed "attacks/sec" also seem very-very low which is probably where the error came from. 2.1 rounds/sec for an automatic? I don't think so. My testing using a iPhone stopwatch (so the time may be a bit shorter for human reaction error) is showing a fully loaded (100) drum empties in about 8.5 seconds or more like 11.7 rounds/sec.
Using straight math on the listed 34 damage this puts the DPS at 397.8/sec not including the additional 15 AOE damage of 175.5/sec (unless thats added already which I'm kinda doubting).
I know the stats change based on other items but here's what mine displays: Damage 45, Fire Rate 127, Range 77, Accuracy 77. My level is 58 although that should not matter (its all in the perks!)
I have 0 perks in the automatics (using rifles xL5 instead) and took down a deathclaw in no time flat with this thing. The rifle, a ~200 dam/shot x3.5 critical (Ninja L3) with a 95% chance, barely took a sliver off the health using the tail (my target for both weapons). This had a 60% chance and took it down in one AP grouping with some left over. (I know, other factors may have affected the outcome).
Where are these numbers coming from? I assumed it was the PC GECK but a quick check shows it may not be released yet.
I'm doubting all the values in the info-boxes now. Not sure if I should change them though until I know where they are from. Any in-the-know let me know so I know how to proceed. Thanks!(Philbert) 72.128.208.82 21:44, January 4, 2016 (UTC)
- Update - It looks like there are three ROF's. 1) Freehand, 2) VAT's slow speed, and 3) VAT's high speed (similar to #1). I tested #1 for the above rant. I also had #3 several times prior to the initial post. Recently I had #2 occur a few times and its much slower, more like the speed that's currently in the info box. I have no idea what triggers the difference between 2 & 3 and will update if I discover anything. (Philbert) 72.128.208.82 03:44, January 5, 2016 (UTC)
Search distinction[]
Could this and the other Spray n' Pray page use some distinctions? What I mean is, if I type 'spray' in the search bar, two identical results come back. They both just say 'Spray n' Pray'. The first result goes to the New Vegas perk, the second comes here.--64.127.136.202 14:44, February 19, 2016 (UTC)
Modding crashes game?[]
It appears I can only attach 4 mods to the gun. I am not sure if this is a game mod that I am using, or if it is something with all Thompson SMGs, but I can change the frame, the barrel, the sights and the stock. If I try to change the end barrel attachment or the clip. the game crashes to desktop. Since it's all Thompson SMG, it might be the mod (Allows me to add mods to all weapons) but I don't use them very often, so I am not sure. Anyone else encountering this problem? CO 41st Corsairs RCT (The Black Hawks) (talk) 01:38, July 4, 2016 (UTC)
Base Damage?[]
The Spray n' Pray comes with A Powerful Receiver (+6 damage according to the wiki). The default for A submachine gun is Standard Receiver. So isn't the base damage actually 28 rather than 34? Noobyorkcity (talk) 03:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)