Talk:Shrapnel

Does that guy have any trips outside rivet in his AI? I was following Mr Crowley to see where he went, got a bit south of Evergreen Mills, Crowley stopped, Shrapnel ran up to him and walked away.

Scripted or is the Radient AI still on the same standard of glitchinness as Oblivion.

Are there any quests related to him? I wanted to kill for his shop key, as well as me murdering everything I came across fitting how I was playing, and he was unkillable.

Dirk Gently 07:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

F&S

Go on; try to deny that Flak and Shrapnel are a gay couple. I admit I've never been inside their digs in Rivet City so it is possible they sleep in separate bunks but I have one answer to that; Fred and Wilma Flintstone baby, Fred and Wilma.--92.41.78.14 06:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Gay or not, does it matter or belong on the article?

Yes they sleep in separate beds. No it doesn't belong.

Some closet-case is still editing the articles to say they are gay lovers.

...Wait what? Since when are they gay lovers? This is the first I'm hearing. Schizmoooo 17:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Some people think it is tremendously important to point out their observations. I'm not sure why exactly. Does this mean we need to go and positively ID all the heterosexual couples as well? I'd rather people spent more time collecting data about the Strictly Business glitchiness personally. --Trithemius 12:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd just leave it as "partner" (which can mean not only lover but also business partner, which they are). Them being a gay couple is only implied in the game, not explicit, so I don't think it should be explicitly stated here either. Ausir 17:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm still baffled as to why people care so much. Yes, they're gay. That doesn't mean we need to shout it from the rooftops. As far as I'm concerned, if they don't flaunt it, why should we? Leave it open for interpretation by the player. Is there anything we can do to stop this from spiraling out of control? Schizmoooo 23:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to get involved with the argument but I thought I'd bring this to light for everyone's consideration: when getting credit for enslaving Flak in Paradise city, one of the 'success' speeches you can be given is "How the hell did you get old queen Flak into that collar?" --Kayleedn

I don't think the issue in in question, for me it was the manner in which it is (or was) discussed on the page. Some people feel the need to be a bit silly about this sort of thing for some reason. Still annoyed about the glitchiness though! ;) Trithemius 13:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Can I just say that I posted the original comment on whether Flak and Shrapnel was gay thinking it was just a minor observation which might amuse others (I may have been drunk at the time- I drink a lot to numb the pain). So, all this time later I return to find; well- all of this. I think it is relevant- there's lesbianism in this game and everyone comments on that, but whenever male homosexuality raises it's head some people seem to get scared and defensive (now *there's* a comment calculated to get a response!) I have no real happiness in life and existence for me has no intrinsic worth (hence the fact that I play computer games a lot and write inane messages on the internet) and as such I am extremely gratified that so many people have jumped when I pushed the button. Oh, one other thing; I never edited the article- I may be a closet-case sonny; but I'm not *that* closet case.

I, personally, am not gay but I am desperate enough to try anything once...--92.41.197.125 05:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Jefferson memorial

In the final battle I found him at the Jefferson memorial. I think he is trapt there because of the energi shield, poor guy. Every time I get past Jefferson memorial, it is standing that he is unconcius, ha ha

Unkillable

Maybe he'll be part of a quest in DLC? That way, it would make sense for him to be unkillable so you don't have saves with quests you can't do because you killed him before you found out you shouldn't. Last Face 00:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Neither Flak nor Shrapnbel is a part of Operation Anchorage. I think he will be part of The Pitt because his partner was an ex-slaver, and he may have information about how to get to The Pitt, or important people there.- Richboy33lb

Repeats and Page Mess

The first 4 paragraphs are just the same thing. Repeated 4 times.
Can somebody please clean up the page.
Shrapnel wandering the wastes is what happens when you enslave Flak, and the different situations mentioned arn't glitches or unique. It is just his AI reacting to monsters and threats as he wanders around.
123.211.101.161 14:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I've cleaned it up. // Porter21 ^{U | T} 15:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

No, I dont think it is cleaned up. The entire 'Bugs' section restates over and over what the first four paragraphs are saying. 67.172.16.255 12:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)