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Reptile dogsEdit

I said this in the comments on the news post, but I think these things look more like some kind of mutated hyena than a reptile/dog crossbreed. Any thoughts? 17:11, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

And the scales around the eyes are... what? They're the Hounds of Hecate, silly. :P Nitty Tok. 17:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
On closer're right. 17:27, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

These people are going crazy over the "reptile dog." I doubt that's even the name. Basically every two minutes there is a new edit. TrailerParkApe 17:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Welcome to Vault 15, the Vault filled with people of a diverse ethnic background and prone to fights! :D Nitty Tok. 17:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I was the one who created this page and I just hastily came up with "reptile dog" because that what it looks like to me. If you have a better name for it then please edit it. 21:31, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Call it Snogs. They are a x between a snake and a dog- Snogs. Tezzla blah blah blah 21:35, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds way too ridiculous. 22:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Or, y'know, we could totally not make up names and go with what they look like. There's nothing specifically snake-like about them. Nitty Tok. 22:34, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well there are 2 pages for the same creature, which is a bad idea. I vote we keep this page since it's more general, although they /are/ specifically snake-like, they have the 4 nostrils (used to sense heat) that venomous snakes do, which is unique among all other animals and reptiles. Only venomous snakes have this, other snakes do not have this same feature. And rattle tails, which other regular 'reptiles' do not have. Sorry I'm kind of an animal nerd... But you can see these features in the trailer. Science! Metalspork (word vomit) 23:07, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

What's the second page? Snogs is already a redirect here. Nitty Tok. 23:10, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sorry, I just realized that when I went to find the pictures. Here is a clearer picture of what I was talking about before: the larger 'nostrils' on the bottom are the heat sensors, the nostrils closer to the top of the nose are the 'regular' nostrils. Rattledog Metalspork (word vomit) 23:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, I think I remember something about the Vipers having dogs. Viper-dogs? Hopefully not, too close to Avatar's Viper-wolves. Nitty Tok. 23:24, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
@ Nitty, the split tongue, the fangs, the rattles on their tails, the way their jaws open so wide when they jump at their prey, you really don't see anything specifically snake-like about them?
I mean it's face looks dead up like a rattle snake's
In my opinion something this weird can only arise out of the ever present FEV. FinalWish 21:10, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

You guys this a simple thing to figure out, it's a fishdog 00:51, June 15, 2010 (UTC) Decadent zombie

Ehhh.... Edit

Im not sure I like this concept too much... they just look like somone placed a snake's head and tail onto a regular dog's body for christ's sake!! They better have a GOOD explaination to how thy appeared or Im gonna hope they dont appear in the game

Maybe it's a cross-breed like the basilisk. Some dog might've sexed up a snake and out comes this abomination. 11:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I definately see what you mean, but there have been weirder, less realistic creatures in Fallout before. Like the centaurs from Fallout 1 & 2, they were kinda stupid looking on first sight, but they worked it into the game pretty well. As for an explaination, I garuntee they'll cook up something good for how they came to be. my guess is that they're similar to the centaurs and are a result of some sort of controlled mutation from FEV.

Still they look kinda retarded.... Maye if they had the whole thing covered in scales and not just adding a snake head it would look at least half decent. I mean seriously they look like god got drunk one day and mixed up his animals

"They look like god got drunk one day and mixed up his animals", yeah, that's actually a pretty good description. So, have you ever played the Fallout series? That's kinda how a lot of the creatures in Fallout are. Look at the centaurs for instance. Sure, it's a little cheesy, but thats kinda part of what Fallout is.

I mean centaurs look better because there skin is one texture and it doesnt look anything like the creatures it was before. I think the snogs look retarded because it looks like a four year old took a dog toy and put the head of a snake from another toy. Its a good concept (albiet strange) but they could of done a better job of combining the animals

I can agree with you there, I'd say they could have done a better job at making it a bit more realistic even given the concept

Possible explanation for the creature Edit

Is there any chance it could be a reference to the "legendary" Chupucabra if you read the details of its appearance on Wikipedia (i know it's not the most reliable) it sounds very similar 23:50, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

A reference? ...anythings possible, but I don't think it really looks like a chupacabra, and why would chupacabras end up In vegas? Don't they supposively live in countries with a lot of water? I just don't think it would really fit.

Is the reason for coming up with a posssible explaination is that youre refering to the comment if said before? If so i was talking about how it appeared in the game, what caused them, ect. not the reference......

The only other mixed creatures we know are Centaurs and Floaters. The Rattledog thing could be a more refined centaur. Rootmars 16:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Rattledog is the best name I've heard for this thing yet. It has a dog's body, and a rattlesnake's head and tail. NovaSilisko{nom nom nom} 22:07, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dog? I think not. Edit

First off its fur is golden (cough cough cougar/mountain lion). And last time I checked golden retrievers were friendly. Secondly in one of the photos descriptions it says it "pounced" before attacking. Dogs usually jump on you. Cats usually pounce from a crouched/prone position. Pounce just sounds more catlike to me. And its ears are triangular in shape. And even though all the dogs in fallout 3 have pointed ears, most dogs in real life have flappy ears. Shadow 19:36, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

BAD DOG... SNAKE.... DOGSNAKE?.... SNOG???......

What? Seriously, what? This is a game set in an alternate universe in the future and you're nitpicking details about the fur colour and ears? 22:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

@ Shadow, While I do see your point, the color of the "Reptile Dog's" fur resembles the color of the fur on the vicious dogs seen in Fallout 3. check out the e3 trailer and listen closely to that slpit second where you can see these "reptile dogs", it definately sounds like barking. You certainly make a good point, but most evidence points to some sort of dog.

The Eyes Edit

if you pay very close attention to the trailer, the dog's left eye's pupil is more of a slit like a snake's, but his right eye's pupil is circular, looking almost amphibeous.

You're right! That's interesting... Maybe the right eyeball is supposed to be a 'dog-like' eyeball since it has a circular pupil. Amphibians have varied pupils, some looking more like crosses or tear drop shaped, and some circular. I would guess that it was intended to be more mammal-like. Metalspork (word vomit) 23:23, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rattledogs Edit

These things are not typical feral dogs... They have snakelike heads, forked tongues, and rattlesnake tails. Just sayin'. We might not know what they're actually called until later, though. Metalspork (word vomit) 04:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

The tail resembles a bobcat or other wild cat , sorta.Edit: No wait, its a rattle on its tail? CANPoo 16:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait... Edit

Really? Are these really called Snogs? Why'd we take the redirect off? Now there are two articles. Pah. Metalspork (word vomit) 04:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nvm, there aren't two articles, but still... Snog is a bit... Funny... To just be a speculative name, eh? Metalspork (word vomit) 04:37, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it was called Reptile Dog, but there is now a big debate if it's a mammal or reptile, so we'll just call it this for now. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 10:06, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The name "Reptile Dog" encompasses both sides of the debate, yes? I think that's a better name. I don't think it's a big debate, it's obviously a mix of both reptile and dog-- I wouldn't bend to the wishes of some dumb/confused people eh? I'm not really partial to a made up name like 'snog'... Metalspork (word vomit) 03:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
No, we'll call it a reptile dog, Tezzla. Snogs are too much STALKER. Nitty Tok. 03:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
Heh, I'm glad my name for it stuck. But it will surely be called something else in-game thoug. And why do some people wanna call it Snogs? That name sounds like a cuddly bear on a children's show. 19:56, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

grammar Edit

Reptile dogs are creatures/ Reptile dog is a creature

What? Nitty Tok. 03:44, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
I think he's talking about singular and plural. 20:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nightstalker Edit

Wait... What? When was this confirmed? 00:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

A <ref> tag would be nice. I hope this is the correct name, so that there's no more debate on the subject; and the name isn't half bad in its own right. --Kris mailbox 01:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is the real name. It was moved by Pushasha, a FNV QA tester. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 10:57, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Good enough for me :) --Kris mailbox 12:54, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
I wonder why a "night" stalker is out during the day in the trailer. 12:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

It would be awesome to be a FNV Tester

Observer Eyebot ( 01:37, September 1, 2010 (UTC))

NOEZ!!1eleven! AN EYBOTZ!!1 *shoots eyebot in face, does a barrel roll, and sacrifices Nightstalker to Cthulu* TJbrena 16:51, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

FEV mutants? Edit

couldn't these things be FEV mutants, cause it doesn't look like something made from radiation.

I think it's pretty self-evident that these creatures were a man-made creation. I can't see how radiation could have possibly spliced genes like this, and there's also the fact that the game considers them "Abominations" and not "Mutated Animals" when killing towards achievements and perks. Orra 21:11, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nightstalker Edit

When I thought of this, I thought of Kenji Kawai's Nightstalker. Nukey (talk) 22:16, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Locations Edit

I'm on my second playthrough and i haven't seen a single one. Are there a specific set of locations or are is it because i haven't travelled at night enough? 14:57, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Between Nipton and the Mojave Outpost there is small cave entrance, the cave itself is full of these, and I was attacked by about 11 of them outside. 23:49, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

How?!?! Edit

was it a dog hoo @$#&€% af snake


Who or what caused the genetic mutation? They need to at least give some sort of note or terminal entry saying it was a government experiment (like Mole rats). AreYouGoingToEatThatNuke? 23:37, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

one could guess that it's the "brilliant" minds at Vault-tec, sounds like some stupid crap they'd do!--Apocalyptic Paco 02:48, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Big MT shenanigans.

they don't attack? Edit

I was doing the bitter springs quest and ended up in the cave with nightstalkers, they constantly ran within inches of me but never attacked, I have an unpached version and no animal friend perk.

those were all young night stalkers, they don't attack unless an adult is present.

I had the same thing they just ran away they are the ones just running around Big MT. 21:03, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Running patch 1.7 and all DLC I didn't have a single one of these attack me in BigMT except Shadis the unique. The ones outside when I first got to big MT and all the ones in the cave just ran away, which was annoying, they take a lot of bullets or axe swings to bring down. Maybe I'm lucky but I feel sqrewed I didn't get attaked. Haha. Dragonalumni 06:59, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Old World Blues Edit

These things have become incredibly dangerous since playing the Old World Blues DLC. Upwards of ~500 health each as seen by my level 43 courier. Sneak attack criticals with a Ranger Sequoia loaded with SWC .45-70 (with The Professional and Cowboy perks even) aren't enough to down these suckers anymore. Their bites are also about as potent as a slap from a Deathclaw.

  • I guess this would be a hint to take the Animal Friend perk when your character reaches level 44! 18:25, July 22, 2011 (UTC)DarthOrc
  • I think nightstalker informations should be updated with a separate sections for OWB, though they share the same name with MW ones OWB nightstalkers have very different stats, up to 675 hp (in this Shadis is not unique), and I believe higher alerteness. I wonder if it'better add a note or creating whole different entries.

Mk65 08:55, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, Animal friend is a must in OWB, I'm level 46 and died three or four times exiting X-13 facility...

Incredibly hard to hit in VATS Edit

Is it me or are Nightstalkers really difficult to land a shot on in VATS? Even when it claims I have a 95% chance of hitting the targeted body part, I seem to miss at least half the time.--Darth Oblivion 18:27, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Coming straight at you they don't seem that hard to hit, VATS seems to be a bit off if they're running to the side or perpendicular to you. UserGreatMara9mm Pistol 18:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
Thank god it's not just me. I have noticed the same as the posters above, you can only really use VATS if they're facing directly at you. Something must be off about their hit boxes. :( I've fired dozens of rounds in VATS when the head shows 95% likely to hit and not hit them once unless they were facing directly toward me. ElvisDumbledore - eschew obfuscation 03:16, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
All i can think of is to use one-hand fast shooting weapon then you should have beter luck landing some hits. The speed they move make it realy hard to shoot them whit sniper type weapon. If they close, targeting head is pointles becouse next what hapen is they will clipping inside player whit their head making it imposible to hit whit long weapons.

Pickpocketing Edit

The article states that although you can pickpocket them they hold no items. That's not true. I have the Animal Friend perk. When I tried it on one of the cloaked 'stalkers in X-13, not only was it carrying blood and 2 tails, I was able to successfully steal the blood with the standard karma loss.Servonut 12:33, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Cripple Edit

Can some one tell me what is it whit this creature wen it come to crippling. I got Miss Fortune perk to test it and i realy cant tell if they affected even if evry body part is crippled. Some one will think standing attack insted of leaping attacks will make it easy to dodge but they insane cliping in to player make it so mach worse.