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Existence

If there's no info on this enemy, no image, and no references, then how did this page come to existence? I'm not saying that the enemy is fake, per se, more that I don't know exactly how we know this thing is in the game as of yet. 07:42, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

May I also add that upon inspection, this page was created by a user who was recently blocked for vandalism. 07:44, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, an image was added after you posted this. If that's what the page is based off of, I don't see a problem keeping the page up until proven that the image is just a simple ghoul. --Kastera ^(talk) 12:57, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

This page

We can rename \ redo this page right after the game is released and we know EXACTLY what creature or character this ghoul is. This red ghoul is a part of Lonesome Road, so the page may stay. Master Mold 16:37, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

That wasn't the issue, my issue was that there is no proof that the enemy in the picture is nothing more than a ghoul. Before that picture was added, this page was completely blank. I have no problem with the page being here, it's just that I'm not convinced this is a "Blood man" as of yet. 03:55, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

The blood man uses non-vanilla race textures and gear. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 06:23, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Non-vanilla textures? You've got to be kidding me. What do you call a red, flayed human without nose and some tufts of hair? A ghoul.

I'd consider the Marked Men to be a subclass of ghoul; one that has had all the flaky decaying skin blasted off by the constant winds of the Divide. --99.153.194.20 07:22, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blood Man...

He looks like a ghoul.

Ghouls were originally called bloodmen on a piece of concept art. Chief ^{Talk to meh.} 11:58, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

LOOK CLOSER AT THE EYES! it was never a blood man! its a ghoul! look carefully at his eyes and you can see they are dark and small like a ghoul's!

better picture

I uploaded a screenshot from the Lonesome Road trailer, looks like the 'Blood Men' were the NCR soldiers.

Errm they wear a bit of legion armour too (shoulder pads). They could be infected scavengers or possibly Ulysses followers?

We know the NCR lost men going through the Divide on some occasions, so it's not impossible that they're NCR soldiers. And scavenging is of the utmost importance in an area like that I'd imagine. ^{"Say 'ello to my little friend!"}

I added a new image, this one is actually alive and in combat, as well as a better view of his armor. --Felix Brehh 19:01, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blood Man

Didn't Johnson Nash say something like: hope a storm from the divide skins him alive or something similar? Maybe these things are people without skin?--81.231.125.88 19:04, September 14, 2011 (UTC) you could be right i mean it doesnt seem like a ghoul would know how to salvage armour and most smart ghouls are non hostile so these are most likely skinned humans--Corporal grif 21:56, September 14, 2011 (UTC) Makes sense, someone should mention that on the page. It's full of speculation that they're ghouls.

Yup. Anyhow they're probably the remnants of the legion and NCR that were sent there. Banding together for survival or the like. =P Wyrmalla 23:57, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Salvaged NCR power armour

I'm not sure this should be mentioned, it could've been the Courier in the video wearing it since it was when Ulysses was narrating about factions... Fallout: Shades of Grey, coming 2012 22:43, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

im feeling like this is one of the divide dwellers and they are from ncr and legion

Creature

They aren't creatures. They are Ghouls who have just become xenophobic. Undead Hat 18:32, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pfft

Blood Man, HA!

The name makes no sense.

Anybody willing to tell me why theyre called Marked Men? What mark do they have? Why not just call them Divide Remnants. Or something something Remnants. I don't see how the word Marked got into this. I know that's their name and we can't change that, but why Marked? --Felix Brehh 20:51, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because they got irrevocably marked by the Divide? Like branding? _Tagaziel ^(call!) 20:57, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

That would make sense, but they could have chosen a better word for Marked. Maybe scarred, forgotten, something like that. I like the symbolism in the name, but the word could have been a lot more appealing to the characters. --Felix Brehh 21:10, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

WHY

WHY DO THEY STILL HAVE HAIR WITHOUT ANY SKIN 75.186.131.185 01:21, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Replace ED-E with Enclave detonator

This article speaks of the Courier bringing ED-E to the Divide prior to FNV and Lonesome Road. There are no indications that it was ED-E or a duplicate of him that caused the Divide disaster.

Therefore I suggest we instead use other users' suggestion of it being a special Enclave detonator that caused the disaster.--TD Ghost 15:51, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

It definitely wasn't ED-E that destroyed the divide, because LR ED-E was built by the divide computers after they picked up the original ED-E entering the Mojave in 2281 (game start). I'll change it now if everyone is ok with that. Al bukhari 22:06 (GMT), 31 October, 2011.

I stand corrected

ED-E is the special detonator that caused the Divide, I really did not pick that up in the DLC, hence my confusion.--TD Ghost 19:42, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Does Fight the Power! work on these guys?--198.174.39.222 15:08, September 29, 2011 (UTC)sane

Well they aren't in a faction, so they are considered natives or something, Sneering Imperialist would make more sense. --Felix Brehh 17:17, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

No mate, you were right the first time, all the eyebots, including LR ED-E, were created in the divide after picking up Original ED-Es' signal at the start of the game. This is confirmed on the divide page which states that it was a detonator and does not mention ED-E once Al Bukhari 22:09 (GMT), October 31 2011.

Are marked men truly ghouls?

In dialogue with ulysses at a certain time during lonesome road, he talks about the marked men. At this time you can ask him "what are they, ghouls?" He says "not exactly" and proceeds to explain that they look like ghouls because their skin has been flayed by the storms at the divide.

If this is the case, why are they said to be a variant of ghouls in this article? I think this should be cleared so as to avoid an appearance of "non-professionalism" Thanks (Nemerian 09:38, October 21, 2011 (UTC))

What's nonprofessional? Marked men can be considered a type of ghoul unique to the Divide. Just like regular ghouls, they thrive near radiation. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 10:18, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

If that were the case then Harold could be considered a ghoul as well. He looked like them when he was mobile but he has a different mutation. In a similar fashion to marked men who "are" ghouls but had different means to become ghouls. From that point of view, should we consider Super Mutants to be ghouls as well since they too were once human but had different means to become ghouls? Or should we still consider them Super Mutants? --Radnus 86.84.129.168 17:50, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Perk Questions

Can anyone confirm if the Black Widow, Confirmed Bachelor and Purifier perks work against Marked Men?--89.152.206.118 23:47, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Unintentional?

"[...]unintentionally brought a package to the Divide from Navarro containing a mysterious ICBM detonator[...]"

The Courier knowingly brought the package in; he/she was unaware that it was a detonator, as was everyone else at the time. This sentence should read something like: "[...]brought a package to the Divide from Navarro unaware of its containing a mysterious ICBM detonator[...]"

At best the original sentence is ambiguous, at worst it is outright incorrect.

Respawn rate?

I just wanted to know how long it takes for these guys to respawn in The Divide. I really want to go salvage some more armor but it's always empty. After 3 days out of the divide and all that, only every so often do they randomly pop out of thin air when I'm there. So any of you guys know exactly how long it takes for the marked men to respawn in their original areas? (Not counting the unique named marked men, obviously.) 98.207.123.38 00:06, May 24, 2012 (UTC) Sorry, signed without logging in. :p Felix Brehh 00:07, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Blister

Blister description reads "a hardened former NCR ranger". How do we know that? Its true he wears the Marked Men version of ranger armor, but he also wears one of the helmets Ulysses says only former Legionaries wear, due to their burning hatred of the Legate. TheShotgunShogun (talk) 18:34, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Early scavenging

I've found that in the early game (levels 10-20), that Marked Men can be amazingly good sources of powerful weaponry; 12.7mm pistols, trail carbines, sniper rifles, and a lot of other high-level guns can be nabbed early on if you are skilled. I recently started a new game and have progressed to level 12, and already have the above weapons + 2 SMMG's and 2 Shishkebabs. Does anybody else think this is worth mentioning in the article? As a tip I mean, it's already noted that they have the guns in the sections on Marked Men types. Just, maybe there should be pointing out the fact that they can provide excellent weapons early on?

Flameroran77 (talk) 04:22, July 19, 2013 (UTC)