Re-activating ? Edit
Since this quest is bugged for so many people, do you think it's possible to add console commands to the main article? I don't know all the commands needed myself to get the quest list with base codes. I need the code to do "SetStage"
- Personally, I reset the main quest, and because I only had a save where Curtis was dead, I had to resurrect him as well. The code was fairly simple.
- resetquest e790f
- prid e8994
- prid e8994
- moveto player
- This resets the main question, selects the corpse of Curtis, resurrects him, selects him again, and moves him to my location (outside of the tower at the time). I spoke to Colonel Hsu to reactive the quest, and went about my merry way. If he's dead, resurrection should be sufficient to make him go about his quest, but I wanted to be sure so I moved him to me and made him walk back to the tower.
- The trick is to *not* talk to him once you've discovered someone is breaking into the tower. This isn't a bug, it's a feature.
188.8.131.52 06:33, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
Potential Bugfix 360/PS3 Edit
I experienced the "couldn't eavesdrop" bug myself. After fiddling for a half hour trying to get it to work I completely started over. The only things I did differently this time were I didn't share my suspicions with Curtis before staking out the tower and I didn't use a Stealth Boy when I entered. I suspect that the lack of a stealth boy/high stealth skill is what caused the conversation to properly trigger the second time. Simply enter the comm tower with a low stealth but still crouched in 'stealth mode' without using a Stealthboy. Could someone else who has had this quest bugged please double check to see if this is a valid solution? (I suspect the problem is that Curtis checks to see if you're in range before talking, or something silly like that, and using a stealthboy makes him incapable of making the check as you enter.) --ABCoLD 04:32, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
- If you share your suspicions with Curtis, he will ambush you instead of having the conversation. You didn't encounter any bug. 184.108.40.206 19:35, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Possible reference. Edit
the name might be refering to the Creedence Clearwater Revivial song of the same name.
- Yes, it's a song title. The song is much older than CCR, though. Think about what era all the rest of the songs are from.--Gothemasticator 03:21, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
THIS IS NOT A BUG Edit
Had to be a cap twat, but seriously, this isn't a bug (where the train leaves before you disarm it) This happens if you report back to the spy and tell him what you've discovered. He will WAIT FOR YOU in the tower, knowing you're coming, and will NOT REPORT ON THE RADIO. I, luckily, had back up saves way back to the interrogation, and managed to change the outcome of the mission. When i can be arsed, i'm removing all the crap about this being a bug. This is intentional when you understand the context as i've explained here. -EllEzDee 05:20, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
I killed the spy and still had the monorail leave before I could get on, but i kept reloading my autosave and managed to disarm the bomb
I can confirm this, its true. I have already edited NCR walk through , but my english is poor so please, make sure its okey, check this : "IMPORTANT: Do not inform Curtis about that lead, this will make quest impossible to finish! "
NOTE: BS above, I did not talk to Spy, yet I face monorail being blown up.... I'm not able to make Curtis (Fallout: New Vegas) spew on the radio, if I kill him, I'm not able to stop bomb detonation.
- Not BS, totally legit and confirmed. He says "This is where your trail runs cold" just before turning hostile, implying he IS waiting for you. My mistake for telling him there might be a spy, rather than saying "oh just out for a walk" when I accidentally bumped into him on his nightly spy walk to the tower.Noobyorkcity (talk) 19:34, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
Bug - Curtis doesn't make it to the tower. Edit
In my game Curtis does his usual routine and heads out the door to the tower. On the other side of the door he glitches going around in circles while disappearing and reappearing as if he is going in and out of the door. He does this until around 2 am and he is found on the other side of the door completely normal. I seem to have fixed this by reloading my save just before 12am and going into the tower. When I left the tower and headed back to the door, Curtis was walking straight towards me as he normally should.
I had a similiar problem, he stayed in front of a plane with no dialoge options.
i just moved him to my position and it all worked again.
Just use "prid 000f6283" and then "moveto player"
Extrange and new bug Edit
In the PS3 version, I experienced some annoying and extrange bug that didn't allow me to complete the quest. After listening the radio conversation and pickpocketing Curtis the code to desactivate the bomb, I left the tower and head to the Terminal Building. When I entered the building , Curtis was there, and without hitting any button, he starts a conversation with me asking 'so?' once and again, and I couldn't do anything to stop it. A solution may be saving BEFORE entering the building and wait a couple of hours, but I haven't tried it yet. Riprit 11:47, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
Is all of the information regarding the song's placement in the rock 'n' roll hall of fame, or the placement in the rolling stone magazine relevant? Should it be removed? Blazingsand 00:01, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
I killed him during the first half of the interrogation, and i can't get the key to the tower to eavesdrop, because the woman won't leave the interrogation room
Can't Get On/In Monorail Edit
When doing I Put a Spell on You (Legion version, PC) I talk to Curtis and say Hsu doesn't trust me enough to investigate, so he tells me to forget about framing Crenshaw. I pick up the bomb supplies from the garbage can, wait for the shift change, and go onto the platform. However, there is an invisible barrier where the Take Monorail to The Strip gate is, not allowing me to physically go inside the monorail to arm the bomb. How can I fix this? 220.127.116.11 19:09, November 6, 2010 (UTC)Eldmor
- I'm having the same sort of problem. For my playthrough, I'm wanting to defuse the bomb, and I'm doing what was suggested: not report directly back to Hsu, but to go straight to the monorail to defuse the bomb. Once I get outside and next to the monorail car, I can't actually go inside the car to get to the bomb - I get the "E) Take Monorail to the Strip" message and can't get past the invisible barrier. Is this a bug? FIY, I didn't get a chance to overhear the radio conversation about the monorail. Gunhed508 18:14, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Update: I went back and reported to Hsu, then booked it fast to the monorail - this time, it let me inside the train, and I entered the deactivation code. Once I exited the train, the explosion animation happened anyway, and my dialogue choice with Hsu was that the monorail was destroyed. I think this is the same situation with the section below. Gunhed508 18:37, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
It won't let you in the train if you don't hear Curtis talking about the bomb.
Jumping helps to reach the monorail train in time? Edit
I just reached the point in the quest where I killed the guy, and upon telling the other guy about it he tells me to defuse the bomb on the train. Unfortunately the train leaves too fast, sometimes. Just by reloading the autosave upon entering the train level, I found that sometimes the train doesn't leave, but most of the times it did leave when I got too close to the train entrance. One time, however, I managed to get all the way from the door to the entrance of the train, and walk onboard without having to really hurry. That was the time that I jumped all along the way, including around the stairs to the train and up. Related? Might be worth a shot for those having problems with premature train departulation.
Edit: Yeah, couldn't turn the quest in afterwards, as it turns out. So I run back out, the train departs like before I disarmed the bomb, and then it blows up. Screw it, they didn't need that monorail anyway..
Curtis Waits At Tower Edit
After finishing the interrogation I went out to the control tower to wait until 1 AM for Curtis to arrive and walk in. The problem is that he was standing at the door to the control tower at 3:00 PM. I waited until 1 and waited a little longer without the wait feature to see if he would walk in. He did not, I waited another full day and he did not budge at all. I got myself caught and he did not walk back to the base like he was supposed to. He just stands at the door, no matter what. I reloaded a save, nothing changed. I killed him out of frustration (I didn't save, lol.) Anybody else get this bug and have some idea on how to fix it? FalloutJRob 02:07, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
I did. The Avenger Minigun saved a lot of time, too.--Blahmarrow 01:30, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
I have encountered this as well and unfortunately it seems to be completely unfixable (except on the PC using console commands). I have tried everything including (but not limited to):
- 1. Shooting him to get him to move
- 2. Alerting him and running inside the terminal building (he will follow you and you will be able to open normal dialogue, not the caught outside the tower speech where he will ask you what you are up to but his normal dialogue, however he will still not move afterwards)
- 3. Exhausted all speech options (including passing and failing the speech check)
- 4. Attracting his attention and running into the tower before he can open dialogue (unlike with the terminal building he will not follow you inside but will wait outside right next to the door)
- 5. Completing the 'Finger of Suspicion' and learning about his identity from Vulpes (if you can get him into the terminal building you can talk to him about the legion plan but the trash can with the bomb materials will not be accessible making the quest un-finishable for the legion too)
- 6. Reloading a save from nearly the beginning of the game
It is a quest breaker and has not been fixed as of the latest patch, basically if Curtis doesn't move you can't finish the quest.--GreyMullen 17:04, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
EXPERIENCE POINT GLITCH on spellcheck Edit
At some point during the start of the quest, when u have a [60 spellcheck] and he sends you talk with curtis there is a glitch that makes you repeat the spellcheck infinite times , i got two levels ( 120 xp each spellcheck ) out of this. All this on Xbox 360 version.
This quest is moronic.
All it would take is for them to go off of the status of the bomb, and not a second variable.
Even if you defuse it, if you don't listen to the guy on the radio, it WILL still go off, which is stupid since you can still get to the monorail in time if you use Turbo. Bethesda needs to pull their heads out of their asses, not even the most rudimentary programmers would make such a mistake.
- Bethesda had nothing to do with making this quest. Not even the most rudimentary of Fallout fans would make that mistake.--Kris 11:01, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
- i second that statement with, the bigger the game, the more common the bugs, you had to have told curtis you were watching the tower, or you HAD to have reported to shu, as those are the triggers to cause it, turbo is a cheat, dont blame the wrong company (bethesda didnt make new vegas, they supplied the engine and some programming, obsidian made it) and anyone who has ever done game programming, or worked on anything in that field knows how easily bugs and random trigger problems add up to make shit screw up, i am honestly tired of people bitching about this game being glitchy. - J
I put a spell on you HELP Edit
hey guys, i tried to do the i put a spell on you mission, but it wont let me hear the guy discussing or anything, and then it says i discoverd the leak but when i talk to hsu theres nothing there to talk about or tell him, whats the go????????????
Quest not bugged for me Edit
I did exactly what it tells you to do on this page and it worked. Get the quest from Hsu, go to Curtis and ask him about it, then go to Boyd and ask her for the access code, then go straight out to the control tower and hide. I saved my game here then waited until about 12:30. I didn't see Curtis enter the tower (maybe I had waited to the exact point when he entered the tower since I saw something that disappeared in a split second near the door). I stood near the airplane for a bit just to make sure, then I entered the tower while crouched and heard Curtis talk on the radio. Soon after, the quest updated so I exited the tower, went back into the terminal building, up the east escalator, out the door to the monorail, got on it, defused it using Science, got off, went back into the terminal, went back out the door to the airfield, back into the control tower, killed Curtis (this is AFTER I defused the bomb), took his stuff, went back into the terminal building, and went to Hsu and the quest completed and I got the caps and XP. Playing on PS3. Mp5shooter 04:25, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
Conversation not updatingEdit
I followed Curtis into the terminal building, and got the tell Hsu Update, but curtis isn't talking anymore so the 'defuse the bomb' option is not happening.
I hate this quest Edit
Am I the only one who really hates this quest for glitches and the meticulous way you have to do EVERYTHING?!!
No, I hate it too.--Blahmarrow 01:16, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's pretty easy after you complete it the first time. 18.104.22.168 19:41, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, it sure is pretty easy once you've already figured out the exact sequence in which you're supposed to do things. Herp derp. --Doniazade (talk) 19:50, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
Can't Complete as Legion Edit
On my first playthrough I did the NCR side of this quest. Went like clockwork-- experienced zero glitches.
So on my current (Legion) playthrough I decided to try the Legion side. Did things in the following order: talked to Curtis, got the stuff from the trashcan, planted the evidence in what's-his-name's locker, planted the bomb on the train (which never departed/exploded), went to what's-his-name & killed him, talked to Curtis & was told to go to Hsu, then went to Hsu and saw no further dialogue option.
The train is still sitting there with the doors open. I can go back & see where I planted the bomb, but the train never leaves. I tried waiting for 6 hours, setting the controller down & waiting for 5 real-time minutes, traveling to a different location & then coming back, and saving/reloading but the train still sits there as if it has no place to go.
I'm guessing I did things in the 'wrong' order, even though 1) I see no logical flaw in the order I chose, and 2) if the quest needs to be linear, make it linear FFS. 22.214.171.124 22:36, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
I'm in the same boat as you are. However I killed him, planted evidence then tried to bomb. Might seem an illogical path but nevertheless you're right, if the quest has to be done in a specific order make it so. I hate this quest. I couldn't finish it on the NCR path and now not on the Legion path.
--Fablesamurai 21:13, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
-umm ive tried all of this in that order and it still didnt work i even traveled to camp mccarren from the strip and still nothing ...
Yep i'm having the same trouble as you guys with all the updated patches,the game installed on the hard drive and dead money not matter what order i do this quest in the monorail wont leave the station i've tried everything, has anyone discovered a way of completing this ?.
I can't even get the stuff from the bin! There's no message saying (A) Open trash can.
Not advancing Edit
This is on Ps3
I waited for curtis to show up and before he got to the tower i ran over to him and talked to him he did not discover and he left to the base i waited from 12 am to 1:40 am again and went into the tower and i walked to the top where he was and he started shooting at me, i left and went into the supply shack and left boone (companion) in there i exited the shack and proceeded to the tower again went in and curtis is not hostile but is standing right at the door and won't go to the radio and talk and the quest wont update.
Is there anything i can do to reset or redo or fix this so i can do the quest? or will the be a new patch that fixes it? 126.96.36.199 04:29, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
problem/xbox 360 Edit
is there anyway to fix the quest i put a spell on u if i say to captn. currtis that i am investingateing the break ins i told him that while in side the term building so now he does not come to the tower at night
Captain Curtis is Hostile Edit
Whenever I try to approach Curtis, he is always hostile (red). I am vilified with NCR, but am wearing an NCR disguise. The disguise works on mostly everyone except Curtis. I am also Liked by Caesar's Legion. Please help.--Xenemeous 04:22, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
I have the same issue and I have no idea what to do. I'm on Xbox, so I can't just console command around it.
Even though Curtis is a true member of Caesers Leigion, At Mccarren he has to keep up his roll as an NCR officer. And Officers are you usually the ones who can see through a disgise. I know, I know, the developers should have gone out of their way for this but Its obvious they didnt.--Robandbig 23:00, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
You don't need the monorail Edit
"I havn't traveled to New Vegas yet. Am i stuck now, or do you get another opportunity or ways of traveling to the strip?"
You can still go to the strip, just not by monorail. You could walk to Freeside East Gate or Freeside North Gate. Then walk through Freeside to the Strip North Gate. Snooldex 05:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
Defused the bomb and no speech option for HsuEdit
I told curtis the lead, waited till 2:00 am and went in and I killed him took the code, then I told Hsu that the monorail was sabotaged and he told me to take care of the bomb, I defused it and the objective updated and once I came back to report back I didnt have a speech option to tell him about the monorail, if any one could get a patch released to fix this I will appreciate it alot.
Thats 2 that have had this problem
I have this same problem. Went in and without knowing and my crew killed him so i took his stuff. Reported to Hsu. Once i seen the option to wait let me check something I did that and googled. Tried to go to the train first, but it wouldnt let me on it, just had the travel option. So then I went and told Hsu who it was. He says somethings fishy go check the monorail. It then let me on and i used the codes to diffuse. Quest complete, Go talk to Hsu.. Hsu says "What happened" when you get near him but when I click on the dialog no option to complete it/report what happened. Went through all available dialogs.
Legion side Edit
Alright so no matter what i do its not giving me the option to say 'im part of the legion to'
NCR and Legion positive? How to? Edit
The guy that's breaking in at the tower isn't showing up. is it because I'm accepted by the Legion and a soft hearted devil by the NCR? Just wandering as this is my second attempt, and if it dosn't work, I'll pwn everyone in the Mojave.--Blahmarrow 22:04, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
Im Idolized by the legion and liked by the NCR with my lvl 31 and idk why but curtis is hostile torward me with or without a NCR disguise Anyone help??? -T2damax
Accidentally talked to Curtis about the tower Edit
If you have accidentally told Curtis about the tower, he won't talk on the radio when you find him in the tower, and instead will ambush you, and you can't save the monorail. If you still want to save the monorail, you can reset the ambush flag by entering the following command before you follow Curtis into the tower.
set e790f.bCurtisAmbush to 0
Pardner, I've been searching the Wasteland for this bit of info. Worked like a charm ... suggest moving this (or at least linking it) to the main article.--188.8.131.52 01:11, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
cant complete quest ?!?!?! Edit
i informed curtis and he stood there so i went to pickpocket because no one entered the tower and he was the only one there so i found the activation code and did a silent shot and killed him but when i went to tell HSU it wouldnt let me complete the quest please help me !!! --ARMSMEN10 01:46, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Still broken in 1.3? Edit
I think the new patch has broken this quest again. Now, if I got directly to the Monorail after catching and dispatching Curtis the spy, the monorail door is once a again a wall that gives me the choice to take the monorail to new vegas. if I talk to Hsu first, it's impossible to get there before it takes off and blows up. even with a Turbo.
Hexrei 20:00, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
Apparently it's not totally impossible, as I was able to stop it in time by tcl'ing through the wall of the monorail, but that was merely bypassing the trigger to send off the monorail, and I was left with the quest open but no dialog options with HSU, so it seems like I was supposed to. Very broken quest still as far as I can tell.
Hexrei 20:03, June 11, 2011 (UTC)
I gangbanged this quest Edit
I did it from both sides. Since I was accepted by Leigion and mixed with NCR, I started the quest from Valupes and col HSU. As NCR I talked to boyed about investigated the tower, and as Leigion blew up the train. Now when I go to see Capt. Curtis in the tower around midnight (or anytime) the game freezes. I think it has something to do with the scripting but im not sure. Anyway, I suggest trying it and seeing what happens to your game.--Robandbig 23:12, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
I havn't traveled to New Vegas yet. Am i stuck now, or do you get another opportunity or ways of traveling to the strip?
(Moved from top of page by 184.108.40.206 06:34, October 13, 2011 (UTC))
Go to the south gate, it is where your questmarker will lead you. you where never intended to make your first trip to the strip via the Train.--220.127.116.11 06:47, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
Dialog Choices from The Finger of Suspicion Edit
I added the dialog choices from The Finger of Suspicion necessary to get this quest from Vulpes. Figured some people might miss them, thinking (as i did first time through) that revealing one's Legion allegiance to an NCR spy might be a bad idea.--Mister Twist 23:43, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
Standing in front of radio not talking fix Edit
If you're having trouble with Curtis just standing in front of the radio not talking i recommend this fix: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35924
This worked like a charm for me :D
spy and monorail bomb count for 1 point Edit
information on main page about 1 point for killing the spy and 1 point for disarming bomb (2 in total) seems to be wrong. There is only 1 point and that is for killing the spy. This can be gained even if he is not directly killed since on turning quest he commits suicide gaining 1 point for his death and not for diffusing the bomb.
I put a spell on you impossible? YES. Edit
I have noticed that even if I get to the tram on time, and I defuse/remove/deactivate the bomb, the tram still blows up. I've only been able to get to the tram once, on one playthrough (as NCR, haven't tried Legion yet). Turbo, jumping, reloading autosave, nothing works to be able to get there. What the hell.
Interesting outcome... Edit
I couldn't decide whether to complete this quest as Legion or NCR, so I kind of half-way did both. I found Curtis in the tower and killed him, and I also killed Crenshaw, framed him, and bombed the monorail. Now I can talk to Hsu and tell him "I know who bombed the monorail" over and over again and he'll give me the 100 caps reward over and over again. I also tell him about the intelligence leaks and he keeps telling me to check the monorail before it's too late, despite it already being bombed. I can't finish the NCR side because the monorail is bombed, and I can't finish the Legion side because Curtis is dead. So that's that.
There is no bomb in the trash can!! I did some parts of the quest for NCR, then I switched to Legion after The Finger Of Suspicion. I was thinking that maybe I could double-cross Legion by working with them for a while (nabbing the bomb & documents) and bringing them in to Hsu. It seems I can't even pick up the freakin' bomb from the trash can. I'm playing on ps3..BTW The next part in the quest (for NCR) would be to surprise Curtis in the tower. But he would ambush me, because I revealed my intentions of scouting out the culprit to him. Did I screw up anywhere since i cant pick up the bomb??
- First off, use four tildes (~) or the signature button when signing an article. Unfortunately, this quest is scripted to be done in a specific order. It seems that one of the objectives for both sides "lock" your side for the quest. 18.104.22.168 19:45, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
Curtis won't leave the tower Edit
I bombed the monorail for the legion, framed Crenshaw, and talked to Hsu. Now it says talk to Curtis. He is in the tower. When I go in he turns hostile, so what now?--22.214.171.124 15:32, October 16, 2013 (UTC)
SetStage and get this over with? Edit
Okay, so after 5 times of resetting the quest, Captain Curits is Fucked Up Beyond Recognition, probably from so many unholy resurrections. He's seemed to have lost his lip-sync files, his face is stuck in an odd "teeth blowjob" fashion, and he doesn't walk; he glides everywhere.
That's all fine and dandy until it starts screwing with the quest. After consulting the Wiki page a sixth time, I have done all the extra-fucking-meticulous steps in order they were set in to save the monorail and in-turn earn Boone's affection (love you Boone-poo), I didn't tell Curtis about the break ins, I was hidden the entire time, and he doesn't see me coming up the stairs (Sneak skill is 96 :3), I can practically hug and caress his ass without him knowing. But he doesn't talk to the radio. He just stares at it.
I've eventually lost patience and said "to hell with the monorail" and tried to strike up a conversation. The usual "What are you doing here, you don't have clearance" and "I don't know what your talking about" schtick is going on, but even after I turn his head into mist, I don't get the quest update to go report to Hsu.
So, I can't complete the quest, monorail or explodey monorail. It's glitched either way. I've tried pick-pocketing everything that he had on him, activation codes and all, so don't ask. I just want someone to tell me what I'm supposed to set the SetStage to so I can be done with this shit-stain on Bethesda's scripting.
Don't comment unless you're going to tell me which numbers to put after "SetStage 000e790f"
Curtis Is a hostile. Edit
When i walked into the terminal to get the quest. i talked to Hsu. how told me all the things i needed then he told me to speak to Curtis. When i go to Curtis he starts shooting me and i cant speak to him. Please Help.
Also, It's on PS3. ~noller
That is scripted. You are hired to kill the man, who wants to destroy the monorail, hence Curtis.22:37, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
What the fuck ncr or legain it won't let you on the train what the fuck why would they not let you go in it fucking cunts they could get some one to cheek fuck this game is a fucking buggy mess what the fuck what were they thinking fuck out new Vegas is better to clen out your asss then play