“About a week ago, this trader, Ringo, comes into town. Survivor of an attack, he says. Bad men after him, needs a place to hide.”— Trudy
|Quest: Ghost Town Gunfight|
|Enter the Prospector Saloon and witness Joe Cobb threatening Trudy.|
|Learn about Ringo and his hiding place from conversations with Trudy and the other townsfolk.|
|Visit Ringo at the gas station.|
|Talk to Sunny Smiles about Joe Cobb.|
|(Optional) Convince the townsfolk to give their support in the fight.|
|Return to Ringo in the gas station to trigger the arrival of the Powder Gangers.|
|Help Ringo fight the Powder Gangers.|
|Reward: 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company), 150 XP, Goodsprings fame or Powder Gangers infamy|
- This quest is first available after completing Back in the Saddle or By a Campfire on the Trail. Sunny Smiles will suggest that the Courier pay a visit to the saloon in Goodsprings, where they learn that the town is being threatened by a group of Powder Gangers because of their conflict with Ringo. Choosing to help the town will begin this quest. Choosing to help the convicts instead will begin the quest Run Goodsprings Run.
- Enter the Prospector Saloon, where you will find Trudy arguing with Joe Cobb about the whereabouts of Ringo, a trader who is hiding out in the town. Once Cobb leaves, the Courier can question Trudy about the argument and get more information about the Powder Gangers. The Courier should now have access to the previously locked gas station on the edge of town where Ringo is waiting.
- You can also start this quest by talking to Doc Mitchell, who will mention that there is trouble in town.
- Head up to the gas station, to the right of Mitchell's house. Ringo will challenge you when you enter, but talking to him will give the option to offer your help dealing with Joe Cobb. He will request that you attempt to enlist more help from the townsfolk. The Courier can do this by simply asking Sunny Smiles, who will instantly pledge to join you in the fight. She provides you with optional objectives to rally more support.
- Completing the optional objectives will require convincing the Goodsprings inhabitants in question through skill checks in dialogue. If the player lacks the necessary skills to pass skill checks, there are many skill magazines that can help scattered around town.
- Skill magazines can be found randomly in mailboxes around Goodsprings and elsewhere, such as nearby Primm. Many merchants sell them on a random basis as well.
- Convincing Chet to help out requires passing a Barter check of 25, or paying 1000 caps. He'll give the Courier a leather armor in ~50% condition, and promises to offer his stock to the town as well (equipping the generic Goodsprings settlers in sets of leather armor).
- Convincing Easy Pete to help out requires passing an Explosives check of 25. The Courier will receive 5 dynamite from Sunny Smiles after reporting back to Ringo.
- Convincing Trudy to join in requires passing either a Speech check of 25 or a Sneak check of 25. She'll cause an additional Goodsprings settler or two to join the gunfight.
- Both Chet and Trudy sell Meeting People, which boosts the Speech skill by 10 (or 20 with Comprehension).
- North of town, behind the Goodsprings general store, is a white trailer next to a house. There is a Meeting People on the floor under the shelf inside.
- A Stealth Boy (+100 Sneak) can be used to pass the Sneak check with Trudy. One can usually be found in the Goodsprings schoolhouse inside the locked safe (Lockpick skill of 25 required).
- Doc Mitchell will give the Courier 3 stimpaks when asked for help. Passing a Medicine check of 30 nets 2 doctor's bags in addition.
- A copy of Today's Physician, which boosts the Medicine skill by 10 (or 20 with Comprehension), can be found inside Mitchell's house, on a desk with a typewriter where the game begins.
- Despite the 30 Medicine requirement, no XP is given for passing the check, unlike with each of the others involved.
- You can also enlist Victor to join your side in the fight, but he fails to show up. Asking him about this later (before he leaves to Novac), you will find that he was shut down by an unknown person to keep him from fighting (Science check of 25 required). Note: Sometimes when you go to enlist Victor, the option to recruit him will be inexplicably missing. This can usually be worked around by talking to one of the other NPCs for the quest and then returning to Victor.
- A Programmer's Digest, which boosts the Science skill by 10 (or 20 with Comprehension), can be located in Goodsprings schoolhouse near the computer terminal, and there is a second copy on the shelf beside the overturned desks.
- Even if the Courier doesn't recruit Easy Pete or Trudy, they will still probably help out in the fight. As will Chet, even though the Courier doesn't have the option to recruit him. Make sure Sunny Smiles doesn't die during the fight, as it will make it impossible to carry on the quest - see the Bugs section below for more information.
- Once the Courier has enlisted all the assistance you wish to, return to Ringo in the gas station and speak to him to start the fight. Sunny Smiles will show up once the Courier commits to being ready. Follow Sunny and Ringo to the scene of the gun fight. Joe Cobb and the other Powder Gangers will approach the Prospector Saloon from the main road. Once all the Powder Gangers are dead, the quest is complete. It is, however, possible for any (or all) of the Goodsprings residents to die in the fight.
- You cannot start this quest if you have already started Run Goodsprings Run. Ringo will decline your offer to help and claim he saw you being overly friendly to Cobb, after which the quest will be marked as failed. Even if you kill Joe Cobb, Ringo will still refuse your help.
- Ringo will not accept your offer to help him if you have earned a negative reputation in Goodsprings, saying that he needs someone who is liked in the town, thus rendering the quest impossible to complete.
- When asking around for supplies and help from Trudy and the other residents, it is possible to recruit Victor to help battle the Powder Gangers. You can usually find him wandering around Goodsprings or outside his shack near the Goodsprings schoolhouse. He will not participate, however, and when asked later will apologise and state that he must have dozed off. A Science check of 25 reveals that Victor was deliberately shut down using "Override command 16-Delta". He claims he has never heard of this command before.
- If the player does not personally kill any Powder Gangers during the fight or performs only stealth kills, the player will only earn a shunned reputation with the Powder Gangers, which isn't low enough to cause any Powder Ganger locations to be hostile to the player should they choose to visit.
- Alternatively, one could complete I Fought the Law first, then return to Goodsprings to complete this quest. However, leaving Goodsprings triggers the one-time menus for redoing the Courier's SPECIALS, Skills, etc. However, before telling Ringo the fight is on, a player could leave and return to Goodsprings since a redo of specs should not affect the final gunfight.
- Using a weapon that inflicts Fatigue damage to knock out Powder Gangers is a way to help Goodsprings win the fight without earning a Vilified reputation with the Powder Gangers.
- If one of your companions kills a Powder Ganger, you will lose reputation with them as if you had made the kill yourself.
- If you steal the single shotgun from a house in Goodsprings before you enter the gunfight, Trudy will not have her gun in the fight.
- You can kill Joe Cobb prior to the gunfight by shooting him in the saloon while he is talking to Trudy. The battle against the Powder Gangers will remaining, but with only five left to kill even though Sunny Smiles still says there are "at least six."
- When attacking Joe Cobb, he may run into Easy Pete's house to hide.
- The roof of The Prospector Saloon can be reached using the wooden barrels and crates nearby and offers a good vantage point during the fight.
- If you accidentally shoot any Goodsprings residents during the fight, everyone on your side will turn hostile after defeating the Powder Gangers.
- The player only receives XP for Powder Gangers he actually kills or wounds. The player can run ahead to meet them and using VATS, take one shot at each one with the submachine gun. With Chet's Leather Armor on, the player will take minimal damage which can be slept off (using the mattress in the trailer).
Behind the scenesEdit
|The following is based on unverified behind the scenes information and has not been confirmed by canon sources.|
The quest may be loosely based on the plot of the 1954 Nicholas Ray film Johnny Guitar, in which the titular hero and a saloonkeeper named Vienna defend themselves against the townsfolk who want to drive her out of town, culminating in a shootout.
- pc ps3 xbox360 Sunny may die before the Courier talks to her, thus rendering the quest impossible to finish. [verified]
- pc ps3 xbox360 When returning to the gas station after talking to the townspeople, the door may be locked, requiring a key to open. However, this key does not appear to be obtainable until the mission is over. [verified]
- ps3 Upon entering the gas station to report to Ringo, the Courier may find the door unable to be interacted with thus trapping the player in the gas station. [verified]
- pc ps3 xbox360 It is possible that the quest may not show up as active in the Pip-Boy, and it will be impossible to progress in it (the non-player character dialogue will not show up). [verified]
- pc After completing the quest, the inhabitants of the town who assist in the quest disappear. Using the player.moveto console command finds them in the Goodsprings home nearest the schoolhouse. [verified]
- pc ps3 xbox360 When doing the optional quest to recruit the help of the Goodsprings Locals, Easy Pete may be at Black Mountain for no apparent reason. [verified]
- pc If the Powder Gangers attack started, but the Courier kills all of them en route, or Joe Cobb is killed by an unrelated NPC or by a mine, being previously weakend by Courier attack - the quest does not complete, making the quest impossible to finish. This can be fixed by re-killing one of the Powder Gangers or respawning Joe and allowing him to walk into the gunfight range: [verified]
- You can spawn a new Powder Ganger with the console command "player.placeleveledactoratme 00104c6a 1", which creates a new Powder Ganger at the Courier's location. However, this may cause savegame bloating.
- You can also resurrect an already-killed Powder Ganger: Click the corpse of one of the Powder Gangers that showed up for the Ghost Town Gunfight. It is correctly selected if the top of the screen shows the target's name and refID. Use the console command "resurrect".
- Kill the Powder Ganger again.
- xbox360 When the Courier goes to tell Ringo that you're ready to fight, Sunny Smiles will come in and say something along the lines of "I'll be watching the Powder Gangers for when the time comes." Ringo will not go outside but stay in the gas station, and the only way to fix it is to restart. [verified]
- xbox360 The corpses of Joe Cobb and his Powder Ganger band never disappear from the game. [verified]
- xbox360 At random times after completing the quest you may be given it again, everyone will respawn and XP is granted after beating the quest again. [verified]
- pc If you complete I Fought the Law first (betray Eddie), then return to Goodsprings to take this quest you will not be able to complete it. The quest will not appear in the Quests log, you will not be able to start the fight.[verified]