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DAC may not be an option, however there are other wiki farms out there. ShoutWiki, Wikkii, many others. I am appauled by Wikia's unreasonableness and stubborness, just so they can get more money out of adverts by a crap new look. If we move, we can put a redirect on the main page to the new site and delete every article here once we have moved. If Wikia undeletes them and removes the redirect, they're breaking the terms of use, founders or not. It clearly states that every user can edit what they want. So the users will come to the new site instead of coming here. We'll have no problem. We can also join AWA, (Anti-Wikia Alliance). Also, just to let you know, by October 20th, i will not ever contribute to a Wikia wiki again. I am not making edits for Wikia to make money from. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 13:08, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't hurt to start to ask questions. I hate the new skin, and even if we decide to stick around there's always the possibility that something in the future might again force this question open - What would we do if Wikia decided to shut down, or made even worse changes down the line. Having a contingency plan (or at least an idea of what that plan could look like) can't hurt us.

I'm all for setting up some sort of spokesperson or committee to investigate the options out there and approach potential partners (Bethesda, NMA, DAC, et al). We can decide whether or not to go when we have all the facts at hand.

I don't begrudge Wikia making money, its a business after all, but there has to be a line; I think the upcoming changes loses the focus on encyclopaedia, and frankly look hideous.

Agent c 19:04, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Note, I'm not saying we should go/fork... Just ask a few questions. Knowledge is never a bad thing. Agent c 00:24, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

My two cents, I think moving is a terrible idea. Everything on the wiki still works exactly as it did before, apart from javascript, and there's actually quite a few improvements over monaco, IE the "my tools" function, which actually makes my job a whole lot easier, especially when it comes to administrative tasks over on the MoH wiki.

Secondly, if we do choose to leave at any point, this wiki will not be taken down, and if someone else decides to come and take over, then the new wiki would be completely screwed from the get-go.

Finally, I think that Agent c is right that we should have a contingency, and if we do decide to move, we should make the move very carefully planned, such as sabotaging the existing wiki. YuriKaslov-M1911 small Yuri Kaslov

I don't think we should move either. I don't like the new skin, but as Yuri says, most stuff still works. Also, we're established here, and that counts for something. I think we can get the functionality back for the most part with the new Wikia look. --Kris User Hola 00:37, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

SimpsonsWiki has gone. It looks like at least one admin was banned. Agent c 16:32, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

We should download the data, delete every article, and in the new wiki, we shall call it the vault, and in the site description, we shall put "The Vault has moved from wikia, here to shoutwiki. Don't go to the one on Wikia, we have moved". Then users will come here instead. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 10:48, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

We 100% cannot move, because Ausir works for Wikia. He likes having a job, and him leaving over the skin wouldn't go over well.
Or, I think so. I mean, we could always impeach him or something. :P Nitty Tok. 13:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Could someone give me an example of the new layout? I think I've seen it, but I can't be sure. It looks the same to me as the old one, so I don't see the issue. --Revolverman 10:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

He can still go to Wikia. Just because we move doesn't mean he can't go to Wikia still. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 16:19, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

But the Vault would still stay here, and it would still have Ausir, who's really what makes us better than that Neoseeker wiki that's copying us.
I mean, me and Porter and Grizzly and peeps could pack up and leave, but it wouldn't be much fun without Ausir. We also couldn't just burn this version of the Vault in favour of a ShoutWiki or wherever Vault, because Ausir would prefer we keep it. Nitty Tok. 16:22, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I know I am not a huge part of this wiki (or any anymore) I would like to give my two cents. Moving is a terrible idea. It's just a skin, every user can do basically the same things they always could. It makes no difference. DoltenFile:1164610-433px usmc logo svg large.png Let's Talk 16:27, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, they can't. Modification to the site CSS is now illegal due to ToU edits, and the current skin is not just ugly, but is lacking many of the features that our current skin has. We're going to have a broken, ugly skin to use just days after Vegas comes out, and that is not acceptable. Nitty Tok. 18:39, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

[1] Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 17:28, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Your last post just got blocked by my computer tezzla. What the hell was it?--Billytheboy 17:35, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

You press a button and funny thing happens. Tezzla CannonUser Tezzla Dog 17:36, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

A picture of Darth Vader with the word "nooooo" above his head, and a blue button you can press to hear him say it. --Kris User Hola 18:10, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds BADASS!!! Damn trend micro! they take my money AND my vader.--Billytheboy 18:16, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm with Dolten, i mean im not a big part of the wiki, but its just a skin. and for some reason, my skin hasn't changed. NukaBot 18:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thats cause the skin is CURRENTLY optional. I can't find a damn thing on it personally.--Billytheboy 18:32, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's right. If you have Monaco on now, you'll have it on until November 3rd, at which point Monaco will be pulled. Nitty Tok. 18:39, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
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