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On May 14th, 2014, GarouxBloodline was banned from chat for a period of three (3) days by The-Gunslinger. The ban has since been overturned, and three users (A Follower, Energy X, and TwoBearsHigh-Fiving) were asked to form an investigative committee. Following some bumps in the road and some long discussions we believe we have come to a conclusion.

The first point we would like to make is a reiteration of what has already been said; there is no evidence as it related to this particular incident that GarouxBloodline committed a bannable offense. While bans are made at a chat moderators discretion, we as a group, as well as three chat moderators we have spoken with who were in chat at the time of the ban (Paladin117, Richie9999, and Limmiegirl) do not believe a bannable offense was committed.

We would also like to address the concept of 'conflict of interest'. The interpersonal conflicts between the main users involved in this incident are fairly well known to most who frequent this wiki. While we sincerely hope that personal bias did not cross the line into malice, we do believe that it may have played a part in the initial incident. It should be noted that the past interactions between these users constitute reasonable circumstantial evidence, there exists no hard proof of malicious intent.

As for what had been called "manipulation of chat logs" as it relates to this incident, we have been unable to find evidence of deliberate deception. The specific quote in question does not appear in any chat log or screenshot of the conversation, and appears to have been a private message to another user that was mixed up with the transcript of the chat log relayed to Agent c. It was because of this quote that Agent c permitted The-Gunslinger to go forward with a ban. While the apparent inclusion of this quote within the relayed transcript is somewhat disconcerting, assumption of good faith leads us to conclude it was not intentional.

As it relates to The-Gunslinger, we believe that the lack of evidence to support a chat ban of GarouxBloodline constitutes a misuse of chat ban tools, in accordance with our policy on FW:ADMIN. However, because he did seek out the opinion of another user (Agent c) prior to issuing the ban, and because the go-ahead was given due to an apparent wrongly attributed quote, we recommend that no further administrative action (ban or loss of rights) be taken against him, nor do we recommend a reconfirmation request be called.

We have also concluded that any other user involved directly in this incident should not be subjected to administrative action.

Thanks to everyone for their patience. Questions and comments can be addressed below.

Comments/Questions[]

A Follower's personal recommendations[]

For the future, here are several recommendations that I believe should help to avoid another incident such as this:

  • Conflicts of interest should be avoided when possible for the sake of posterity. Where possible, neutral admins or moderators should be consulted before action is taken.
  • Banning should be used as a last resort, not a first action, except for cases of gross abuse of the established rules.
  • Bans through the contributions page do not kick the user from chat when the ban is initiated. As such, they should only be used as a last resort.
  • Bans should be immediately upheld and enforced, unless sufficient evidence exists for them to be overturned by another chat moderator/administrator.
  • Chat logs should not be copied & pasted to relay information to another user. They should instead be linked directly to avoid confusion.

FollowersApocalypseLogo A Follower  Talk  21:03, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Very concise, and I personally consider this report to be quite satisfying. I am sorry this got blown out so much, and I hope this will constitute as the closure most of us will need to officially move on. ForGaroux Some Assembly Required! 21:37, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Works for me. Thanks. Gunslinger470/The-Gunslinger "Some say this user is a Moderator..." Some say this user used to be a Moderator... 03:30, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Actions[]

Thank you gentlemen, for your recommendation. It will be taken into consideration and any further actions will be communicated here. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 21:28, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

OK. Both parties have stated their acceptance of the recommendation. We will accept the findings as written. The Gunny  UserGunny chevrons 20:39, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
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