Forum:Power Armor

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Since I've been making a habit of forums lately, I thought why not another one? Anyway, while before the only known pre-War models of power armor were the T-45d and T-51b and any other models were just guesswork, that's kind of changed now. The non-canon Fallout Shelter has introduced the T-45a, T-45f, T-51a, T-51d, and T-51f while Fallout 4 has revealed it has those as well as the T-45b, T-45c, T-45e, T-51c, and T-51e. So, now that we have an additional ten models of power armor, I propose we move the "T-45d power armor" page to just "T-45 power armor" and do the same to the "T-51b power armor" page. I have created prototypes of what these pages would look like, here and here, although they are works in progress. I have considered doing the same for the newly unveiled T-60, but there may not be enough lore for that. Anyone have any thoughts? Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 14:43, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

I don't see why not. We have similar pages as broad overviews of things like the 10mm pistol and Assault rifle, so why not T-45 and T-51 power armor? The only thing I'm not a fan of is it looks like you transcluded the background of the T-51 power armor from the timeline found on this page. I think there could be a better background of the T-51 power armor that isn't just a timeline of its development. We would also have to edit a few pages (as of right now, T-45 power armor links us to the Fallout 4 version, as does T-51 power armor, with the content found in other games being listed under T-45d power armor and T-51b power armor.) Sigmund Fraud _{Talk to me} 15:03, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Come to think of it, I haven't looked at the power armor page during this. I just re-used the Background info on the T-51b page, maybe that should be changed. And yes, a few pages will have to be shuffled around for this move. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 15:06, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Seems good aside from what Sigmund pointed out, which was that the background still treated the article as the one for the T-45d rather than the T-45 as a series. At this point, I'm not sure there's any real information about the broader series designation than that of the T-45d itself, so it might be weird. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 03:31, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

I was just thinking this morning that every reference about the T-51 being the latest power armor before the bombs fell was most likely going to have to be rewritten now that the emergence of the T-60 Power Armor has come about. All of the power armor pages are going to need fixing once Fo4 is released and this is a major step in the right direction. <br\> Lord Onions: Dat Onion Ring Luvin Fox! (Talk) 05:35, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

They never listen. I've said many times before, once the country pages were gone, SOMEONE was going to try and take out something else. There was then the memorial characters. Now, this. Another shining example of this poison corrupting the wiki. We need T-51b on its own page- do you know how much lore exists for that suit of power armor alone? Is having multiple pages bad? No, it's not like we have a limit to what we can post. This isn't like with the memorial characters where you can just say they're all copies of the same thing- they're not. Each is individual and different, and I'm sure by the release of Fallout 4 (which won't be good thanks to Bethesda, but that's off topic) we'll have PLENTY of information for each suit. Heck, while we're at it, why don't we just shove it all together onto one power armor page! No, I am completely against this. That, and this whole 'consolidation craze' needs to end. Gee, I should really set a custom signature. [The-Artist-64] (talk) 04:00, August 20, 2015 (UTC)The-Artist-64

First, nobody can take you seriously when you talk all melodramatically like this. Second, yes, having multiple pages is bad when it defeats the entire point of overview articles. There's a reason we have just assault rifle and laser rifle and not articles for separate models. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 04:07, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Seriously, what are you going on about? He is literally just removing the 'd' from the title and revising it to allow all new suits to be added to the overview page. This is standard Nukapedia protocol for an object with multiple versions. I'm debating if this even needed to be discussed. Also, continually bringing up the country pages vote, which was passed 16:2:2 in their favor, only makes you sound less credible by looking like a sore loser. Continually bringing up the memorial vote, which a full 3rd of the no votes were because they wanted to change the policy AND THEN delete the pages, while the others varied wildly from not liking lists to page counts, shows that your conservative opinions regarding nukapedia are not in popular opinion and unlikely to gain traction. The fact that you brought up EITHER of them in a forum that literally has no relevance to Countries pages nor Memorial pages and literally deletes nothing, makes you look ignorant of the issue at hand and just looking for an excuse to rant. I seriously can not see myself ever agreeing with you if this is how you are going to behave on every forum topic. I suggest that you try a new and more mature tactic to win over supporters in the future, because your current course of action is not working. <br\> Lord Onions: Dat Onion Ring Luvin Fox! (Talk) 05:25, August 20, 2015 (UTC)