while in the hidden vally bunker i start to think that this chaptor of the mojave could take on the wasteland.
they do not have the numbers to control land but could still have used c4, mines , fatmans and gauss rirfles to wipe out the mojave outpost and the other small camps. they could pick off ncr outside camp mccarron from range and the fiends would help weakin them.
i know they arnt making a dlc that extends the game but if they did and included missions were the bos took the opportunity to slaughter the ones who survived the batte of hoover dam. paladinjames92
The Brotherhood Of Steel didnt face any kind of enemy with such a big army as the NCR, I'm glad they didnt make an ending where BOS take control just like in F0 3, They would then control of DC Washington and Las Vegas, plus, Why would they do with New Vegas ? I kind of think they cant keep places like New Vegas, Do you really imagine drunk paladins throwing up in the streets of the strips ? http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3892/rockii.png 01:51, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
1. Lol Rock. 2. I agree with the fact that why would they need Vegas? A gauss rifle misfire can't be covered up that easily with the body parts everywhere. There's no need for them to control it. D.C. has a nice stronghold, Citadel, and it's not infested with (that) intelligent (of) beings that can organize and plot. Mutants (2nd gen, not the sophisticated ones like Fawkes, Marcus, Neil, etc) are only difficult because it takes more than a few pistol shots, like with raiders. Against the NCR, the Brotherhood would probably lose. I mean no offence towards the Brothers of the Brotherhood of Steel, or as Eden calls them, "Power-Armored Boy Scouts", but the NCR is too large in numbers, but if they were willing to use Guerrilla tactics with either Recon Armor or attempting to ally with independent towns or factions, they could wipe them out for the better or worse. Omega-Ginger
i was pretty gutted about how little the brotherhood has to do with this game. i bought fallout 3 because of the bad ass t-45b armor on the cover, then the story blew me away. i can see why they didnt have the brotherhood take over the mojave, would have bee too much like fallout 3 (to me thats not a bad thing). i like the factions they are very inspired, the brotherhood is still the best in my opinion. -JoshGDC
I was disappointed with how little the Brotherhood had to do with the story, especially after helping Hardin take over, he makes it sound like they will have a major part other than them being killed off. They could have atleast tried to take the dam for themselves (and lost obviously) or something. Hardin wants to send out patrols, but they never do. He makes it sound like he has big plans, but he just sits on his ash the whole time. Also, Veronica's quest tries to convince McNamara to blah blah blah, you all know, but really her and Hardin pretty much want the same thing, why didn't they help each other, or have her help you with anything Hardin wants. I just thought they could have had a larger role in the game, I thought they were THE $h!t in fallout 3, why not Vegas?!? Or they could have been the Dark Brotherhood in Vegas, that would have been pretty cool. (I think that's what they were called in part 3, dont remember, havent played it in 2 or 3 years) But if you really think about it, the NCR had a very minor role in part 3, so I get it, they want you to get to know someone different, there are others in the world than just the Brotherhood.Pappy002 07:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
The NCR have no role in Fallout 3 also I think the Dark Brotherhood your thinking of is the Brotherhood Outcast unless you got your games confused and are thinking of Oblivions' Dark Brotherhood. Beware the wrath of Sithis.--Ramallah 08:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
No, I'm not thinking of Oblivion, I just couldn't remember what they were called. Didn't the republic of Dave or whatever have something to do with the NCR? I could have sworn the NCR was at least mentioned in fallout 3 by Dave. BTW, Oblivion is an awesome game. Can't wait for the new one to come out in November. It's gonna have a perk system, and its called Skyring or something like that, not Oblivion.Pappy002 02:25, April 6, 2011
what i mean is there should be more of a fight in them. they would rather die in a hole than go out guns blazing. for example helios one could be captured by almost any faction as it is so unguarded, elijah riskd most of his men to unlock its secrets but even when its secrets are handed to mcnamara he dosnt even blink.
fallout needs a more aggressive brotherhood. a caractor with no rep. with the bos should have his high tech energy weapons forcefully taken off him when met by a b.o.s patrol( you could pass a spech check to convince them to go away, barter to buy it back or sneak to concell it...paladinjames92
One of the main themes throughout Fallout: New Vegas is how the mighty can fall. For instance, all of the faction leaders such as Mr. House and Caesar can be killed, and the mighty forces of the NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion can be brought to their knees by one 'humble courier'. In the same way, the masters of pre-war technology have been driven back into Hidden Valley by a group of conscripts with semi-automatic rifles and superior numbers. Also, The Republic of Dave has no affiliation with the NCR as far as I am aware, but I do agree with Paladinjames92 that the player character should see some evidence of the Brotherhood's presence without having to stumble upon their 'uber-secret facility'. --89.240.222.121 19:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
I agree they should have been more aggressive, a quest to re-take Helios one, or something, instead of just laying low in their bunker. Veronica's quest ends with her pretty much saying "Oh, well, I give up." How lame was that? But I liked the idea of them in hiding, at least at first. Not saying they should have taken over, but have an important role.Pappy002 06:47, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
A quest having the Brotherhood trying to retake Helios would have been lunacy. Sure, I'm pretty sure a detachment of Paladins and Knights would easily shred the few troopers guarding the station, but as soon as the NCR heard about it, they'd again crush them, and what are the chances of the BOS being able to just slip away into the night again? Escpecially after pissing off the NCR by killing their troopers? I like the idea of the more aggressive Brotherhood that PJ92 suggested, though its not really feasible in the current situation the BOS is in. If they're patrolling the area surrounding Hidden Valley and robbing passerby of their weapons, how long do you think it would be before the NCR heard about it? Not long I'm guessing. The Captain (radio) 03:05, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
The Brotherhood would never be able to control the Mojave. If a sinlge man (me) can wipe them all out, what chance do they have against hundreds of NCR soldiers? Besides, the Brotherhood in New Vegas are infuriatingly stuck up. Seriously, look in the mirror. You're all inbred, you think you're 'the shit' and you think the Mojave is full of uncivilised tribes. The Fiends could take them out easily. Still, the Brotherhood in Fallout 3 are cool, because they actually help people. --Wiseman of the Wastes 18:00, July 30, 2011 (UTC)