Forum:Moderator Request - ToCxHawK Parte Dos

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Yo, my fellow people I, HawK da Barber, am here in once again ask to be a full Moderator for the second time.

You were a Mod once and gave up your rights. Why do you want them back?

I gave up my rights for the sole fact was a majority of people said I lacked in doing my job, even if I passed my Reconfirmation request to remove them. I admitted, I was a lousy Mod, I probably didn't do the right things at times, and I regret it at times. As of now, I want to be given a second chance at being a Moderator giving I think I can actually do it this time around compared to the last time. First time around, I wasn't taking my role in this wiki seriously so I would let people get away with things no other mod would a few times, and I know this time around will be much different.

I know a lot of people question my maturity at times, if not always, and feel that I am in no way able to do this job. I know I am not the most serious at times, but people know I can be serious when I need to be to settle a dispute. Even without my powers, I do my best to diffuse conflicts that get out of hand, if I am there and able to. I want to prove to the community that I can do this job, and all I need is the chance to do so.

There are already mods in your time slot, why do you need your rights back?

I've taken into account that most the time, Vic, Toci, and Cc are one while I am. There are times when one isn't on, and the others are away or something along those lines, and I feel I can go into this time frame and make sure someone is always there to maintain the peace in this chat. I don't think there is a such thing as too many mods or anything along those lines as you never know when there will be a time that there might not be any on. I rather have more mods than less just to be safe.

My Contributions

• I am so far the only fully active member on the Van Buren article project redux. I continuously keep making edits on Van Buren pages trying to get them up to par with the rest of the wiki. It's still going to take a while as I don't get as much edits in like I used to, but I will continue to edit until its completed. So far I have managed to clean up a majority of the quest pages and design documents making sure all the links are correct and adding the correct info to the quest pages. As of right now, I am referencing the quests, making sure people can find the source of the info.

• I have made quite a few pages around the wiki the majority being Van Buren related for example being Cipher Adult and Install the pipe for the Nursery Power Plant, to name a couple. The most recent one that I have made would be The Mom after I realized we didn't have a page for here.

• I was once a continuously a member in the Bug Verification project, but it has since been put on hold for Van Buren, though I will get back into it here pretty soon.

• And lastly here is my edit count which is just over 2,400 edits, it has been growing slowly for a while, but I plan on finishing a lot of work this week if I have the time. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 12:15, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

There should have been a list of this user's edit counts here, but the edit counts feature is no longer available.

Vote

Poll finished on 12:15 pm August 26, 2012 (UTC).

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Yes

• Higgey the Scotsman _{(talk page)} 13:57, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
• So Eric likes to relax sometimes. Sue him. There's no rule that says chat moderators need to be such uptight machines. Eric might seem like he doesn't care, but he is serious when the situation calls for it. If you'll remember, we all voted for him to have these rights not once, but twice. I think people are being a little too tough on him and calling him immature. If any of you will notice, he has been completely calm, serious, and understanding to all the criticism throughout this request. ~ Toci ~ ^{Go ahead, make my day.} 03:30, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
• Eric, ever since I've been active, I've seen you in the chat. I've seen you doing edits, you are laid back, chill, and when a situation rises up, you drop the jokes and get serious. Others may disagree with me, but that is opinion. It is a fact you could hold this position. User:Dead Gunner(talk)

No

• Nothing personal. You just need to prove what you wish to do here.

SaintPain→ Look for me Dec 22 Y'all know what I'm say'n. 02:36, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

• RamboRob196 (talk) 12:16, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
• I like you as a person and and editor, Hawk, but I don't think you're mod material any more. You just aren't serious enough. I can't allow myself to vote yes to someone who says "shat da fak up tankboi" to me practically hourly. Victor the Insane Cowboy Robot 12:39, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
• See my comment. Gothic Neko^{Neko's Haunt} 14:12, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
• I feel like a dick for voting no, but I think you didn't take your job seriously enough. Cheese Lord
• Hawk mai boi; While we are good friends and I would love to vote yes to a friend and a mexican, I can't. I agree with a lot of people here. Sorry man.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Denis517 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
• You have improved significantly over the past months and you take criticism extremely well. However, there is no present need for yet another chat moderator. I do believe there is such thing as having too many chat mods and that is a belief no one can change. --Skire (talk) 16:32, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Neutral

• Eric, you're my good friend. I know you're capable of being a mod, sometimes I just don't think I see the qualities in you though. Hence, I vote neutral.-- 06:18, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
• This neutral vote is just to let you know that I'll be interested in making a vote later. I'd like to think everything through, first though. Expect some criticism and feedback soon. :) ^Skål!
• I honestly don't know what to say. You have been contributing to this wiki quite a lot, but you just don't seem "serious" enough about this. Prepare for the Future!
• See Below. Agent c (talk) 02:40, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

I believe you're only fit for patroller. Your edits and contributions to main space mean something in that respect. I just don't think your behavior in chat qualifies you to have chat moderator rights in addition to patroller. I've seen you break rules, namely when taunting more or another chat moderator, and then you've said we're too serious, which I see as a ridiculous combination. It shows you aren't mature enough to take on the responsibility again. Hawk, you've been a good friend to me. Don't get me wrong. You've helped me through some very tough times and I do enjoy your company in chat most of the time. But I just don't think I can trust you with this job. Victor the Insane Cowboy Robot 12:49, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hawk, I like you, I find you to be a pleasant addition to chat and I'm really happy with the work you've put into Van Buren. However, my spidey-sense is tingling. I can't help but remember your "run" for Admin that you seemed to treat as a joke, and am left wondering if t he same is going on here. As such, I'm not sure if I should vote at all, never mind which way to vote. Agent c (talk) 13:49, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

This is no joke this time Chad, this is a real request. Whether you vote yes, no or neutral would mean a lot, so you I can know your opinion. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate}

That comment worries me. Your admin vote was so you could learn everyones opinion, and I didn't appreciate the vote process being misused in that manner. Agent c (talk) 02:15, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

My admin request wasn't a joke either. I kept an open mind going into it. I didn't word my reply correctly. I went in with the intention of being an admin if I was voted in, which it didn't turn out that way, but it was a way to hear people opinions as well. Either way, it was no joke to me. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 02:21, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Joke was the wrong word as looking back at the admin post it was clearly serious for you, but it still seemed for all the wrong reasons and I felt you misused the process. In your own words " it was a way of showing myself that I don't want to be an admin" and wanted to get some honest feedback because you felt people weren't straight with you. That isn't what these votes are about, the feedback side is secondary to the main purpose. I have no problems with voting for another mod/Chatmod, but im not convinced so far that the main reason this vote was opened. Are we here because you want feedback first (and will moderate chat if the votes go your way) or are we really here because you feel there is a need for a mod and believe you are the person to do it? Sorry of I seem tough or like I'm against you (I'm not) but to me the intent is just as important as the action itself. Agent c (talk) 16:44, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hm, as I remember correctly, you (Eric) gave up the moderator tools because "you don't deserve these rights". Care to explain why you want them now (again)? Energy X ∞ 16:55, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

(←)  Does this not answer your questions? --Skire (talk) 16:57, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

I feel there is need for another mod as school is around the corner for a lot of our mods. I feel that I could step in late at night since my schedule is more flexible at the moment. I'm not sure who else will be able to be on, so that's why I came to you guys to see if y'all would give me a second chance at a job I know I can do. And also, I'm here to voted into mod, Chad. There is no other reason beyond that. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 22:24, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

I would be more inclined to give support to this request if you had worked upon your previous grievances and matured to the point of which you could hold such a position, but you haven't. As an editor you're fine, your work is good and sound, but in chat you're far too lax with the rules and certainly there shouldn't be an. on/off switch for maturity or seriousness, as a Moderator that should be a given to set an example. Further more, I'd refer to the current debate regarding the current view on keeping the special user rights title of "Moderator", so I don't believe such a request should be made when the current policy regarding it is under questioning. Gothic Neko^{Neko's Haunt} 14:12, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Gothic Neko brings up a good point. With the policy in question, even if you had unanimous support, now doesn't seem like the proper time. Victor the Insane Cowboy Robot 14:18, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you said your mind through and through Neko, and I appreciate the feedback, and the thing with the whole discussion concerning the whole Moderator position was this request was going to drop at the time it did whether or not Limmie put up the other forum. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 02:02, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Devils advocate, my understanding of the proposal in the other thread is that the equivalent status to moderator (that is, a Cmod with Patrol rights) would still exist after any changes, so whether we want to call it a moderator or not, they still will exist.Agent c (talk) 14:22, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

The equivalent status would still exist, but the title may be removed or requirements changed to suit. At this moment in time it would be ill-advised for requests to be made for titles which are under questioning, whether or not it would have to be for a "Chat Moderator" Request or full "Moderator" request. Gothic Neko^{Neko's Haunt} 14:29, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

In either case, it has no effect on Hawk in real terms. Either the post requirement is lowered to meet Patroller, or it stays at full moderator level, both of which he meets. The title in of itself is nothing but prestige and has no real effect.Agent c (talk) 14:40, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Just try being a player. If you can do this I am sure you might one day be a worthy voice of the folks here.

SaintPain→ Look for me Dec 22 Y'all know what I'm say'n. 02:59, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Alright Pain, thanks for the advice brother. I appreciate it, thanks. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 03:06, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

As of now, the moderator position exists and will continue to be so during this vote's one week run. So I am not sure why that should even be a problem here at all. --Skire (talk) 13:18, August 20, 2012 (UTC)