Forum:Memorial characters

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Hey everyone, this topic has been brought up a lot over the years informally on chat and other places, but I wished to finally create a formal discussion here. As most of you would know, Fallout: New Vegas has two memorials which list the names of deceased soldiers: the Yangtze Memorial and the Boulder City Memorial on the Boulder City page. For some reason, hundreds of pages were created for the characters listed on these memorials, such as Michael Kilpatrick and Sandra Abbot. As you can see from these examples, each of these articles are not only a grand total of three sentences each, but the only variation in these articles is the name of the deceased soldier. These pages add virtually nothing to the wiki, just restate what the memorial page itself already states, and is in clear violation of our content organization guideline, which states:

“Every article should be "strong" enough to stand on its own. This means the subject provides enough content to write an article of decent length about it.”

These articles are neither of decent length nor stand on their own since they're just copies of each other and their main memorial page. To go further, there is also a downside to these articles. When people see these lists and see links to the characters, they click and spend the time and effort expecting new information. Making these people clicking these links in order to find out there's literally nothing there, is both illogical and inconvenient (Reader convenience also being part of the content organization guideline). It doesn't exactly boost user confidence in our wiki to waste their time.

Thank you all, Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 00:37, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Shouldn't the Boulder City Memorial at least get its own page?

Just copy and paste this line on the "I support these changes" section when this comes to vote, I'll put my sig on it.

P.S. And I know right?- we have all these redundant as hell pages for each person on the Boulder City Memorial yet the memorial itself exists only as a subheader. I'd find it funny if I believed it was done with a sense of humor. --The Ever Ruler (talk) 00:45, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm only commenting because Pally angrily told me to. I agree with everything that's been said, these articles are about as useful as a chocolate teapot. So scrap em or put them on a page that has them all listed out but either way they don't need their own articles. Are you happy now Paladin? Are you happy I commented? KernHallowed are the Ori 01:08, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

No Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 01:09, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Wikis are a collaborative nature. I am not interested in arguing my point for this topic. But I do know that Ryan (Two-Bears) was the one to create these articles, and he may have had a very good reason for doing so that has not been taken into account on this forum.

My suggestion is to send him a message, and get him to argue in their defense, or to agree with your assessment. User:Sarkhan the Sojourner 01:14, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

I don't like the idea of giving some mentioned-only characters a page and others not. I think it's fine the way it is right now. - ^Greets Peace'n Hugs (talk) (blog) 01:21, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

But they already have a page, Yangtze Memorial and Boulder City Memorial. That literally covers everything.