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At first glance, a lot of you probably won't understand why Lionheart and TORN are in the title of a forum post on a wiki about Fallout. Many of you likely don't even know what they are. To put it (extremely) simply, they are video games...video games with pages on this wiki. The wiki about Fallout. There is one reason these seemingly irrelevant games and derivatives have pages on this wiki: they use the SPECIAL system. That is the absolute only reason that I know of as to why they exist. Personally, I feel as if all these pages are wholly unnecessary, as this is the "Fallout Wiki", not the "Fallout and SPECIAL Wiki". I have honest doubts that these pages have ever been visited in the last year. Personally, and the point I'm trying to get at is, I don't think these pages deserve to exist on this wiki. It irks me to no end having worthless pages devoted to these items that have no connection to Fallout, and I believe we should just remove all of the pages from the wiki.
List of Related Pages
*[[Lionheart]] **[[Lionheart derived statistics]] **[[Lionheart perks]] **[[Lionheart primary statistics]] **[[Lionheart skills]] **[[Lionheart traits]] *[[TORN]] **[[TORN perks]] **[[TORN primary statistics]] **[[TORN skills]] **[[TORN traits]]
--Sigmund Fraud Talk Contributions 00:59, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree on this, based entirely looking at the categories. If you follow through to read up on strength, perception etc there is absolutely no mention of the games at all, just the category at the bottom. Essentially someone who did read these articles and went down the rabbit hole, they would end up at a page related entirely to Fallout and that would confuse people as to if the page is right or a bad link. Sakaratte - Talk to the cat 16:13, April 29, 2017 (UTC)
I think we should keep them for the Special connection, but reduce it down to purely the game article itself - the perks/stats/skills/traits etc pages can go. Its all part of the heritage of Fallout. Agent c (talk) 21:47, May 2, 2017 (UTC)
At most they should have a mention on the SPECIAL page but to actually cover them is pointless as who cares about them. Pedro Washington (talk) 01:00, October 27, 2018 (UTC)