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Does Perception help you shoot better ? Or does it only determine threat marker distance and bonuses to Energy Weapons, Explosives and Lockpick ? Squalor 16:47, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
- IT does increase your accuracy in V.A.T.S. i know that for sure because now i always put my Perception to 1 for some reason, so i canbring up another trait and now unless i'm right next to them i can do a max chance of 76% accuracy in V.A.T.S. Primmslimshady 16:51, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
I"m not sure what Primmslim is talking about. Honestly I don't know for certain but seriously discredit the statement that Perception changes VATs accuracy ratings. As far as I know it has no effect on weapon spread or accuracy in or outside of VATs.Cpanda 17:44, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
- hey, you don't know for certain so don't just be going around saying that it doesn't i have noticed it and you have no idea so get your facts straight before you discredit me Primmslimshady 17:47, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
- Can't say I know this one myself either. I'm still trying to figure out whether or nnot Agility affects the accuracy of aiming Energy Weapons or Explosive weapons. 17:49, June 28, 2011 (UTC)
If Perception does have an effect it's nothing that I've noticed. I've made characters with 1 Perception and 8 Perception and didn't notice a change in accuracy scores or while in real time. To be honest the character with 1 Perception used explosives and fell back on guns which I was pretty accurate with outside of VATs. However my Energy Weapons character with 8 Perception was punished for trying to play fps style and I had to rely on VATs. I just don't notice Perception effecting accuracy or VATs at least not drastically.Cpanda 02:20, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
Reason I asked, I'm starting a new character and considered taking 4 eyes and getting the lucky shades. Could have a PC with a Perception of 9 by setting Per @ 6 on the Vigor, back to 5 after 4 eyes, back to 6 w/implant so Per6 perks are available. Perception seems greater than 10 w/ED-e in my party and it didn't seem like I aimed better but I have read many posts here from people saying high Perception helped them. I was hoping someone who understands the G.E.C.K. could reply so we could settle this question once and for all. Setting your S.P.E.C.I.A.L and getting your Traits right are SO IMPORTANT to the task of Building the Perfect Beast. Squalor 15:51, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
Thanx for the link, RTC. It sez, " ■ Perception's in-game description states that Perception affects shooting accuracy, however this is only in V.A.T.S " Can anyone enlighten us with the spread multiplier or Perception check formula used during V.A.T.S. sequences ? The 4-Eyes Trait just doesn't seem worth taking over a Trait like Built to Destroy, Kamakaze or Fast Shot. Squalor 18:22, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
That is exactly how I feel Squalor. Then again if your on pc there are some mods that allow you to pick more than 2 traits. The one I use lets me choose 4 and then there's so many tasty trait mods to sample. One of my favs is Handicappable which is almost like the Gifted but with a wicked permanently crippled leg.Cpanda 18:22, July 3, 2011 (UTC)
I'm kinda into "bench racing" a character build. I start the game with a Wrangler run and get my implants so my SPECIAL is complete before level 2. I train with Sunny and then go on a book search to see how low of a level I can get before getting all skill books. I wish everybody could post their stats when they hit level 10 so we could compare characters and see who's the baddest. Highest DPS for rifle grip, pistol and up close/no ammunition. Best skill set. Able to meet the most challenges.
I do play on PC, Alienware M11x but haven't tried any nexus mods. I did play a heavily modded Morrowind, love that game. Love Bloodlines too but if I want to compare builds with 360 and PS3 players I cant use mods or "gift" myself. Everyone's powerful at level 30 but how good can a character get by level 10 ? That's my game and that's why I asked the question. Squalor 02:45, July 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yes I see your point Squalor. By the time your level 20 you should be able to take on most if not all situations don't even get me started on level 30. Frankly I thought the vanilla game got really stale after that point because if you picked the right perks for your build you were unstoppable. Once you can afford traveling and cost of living the xp comes raking in and you boost your level really really easily compared to levels 1-16 imo.
Just consider getting some mods. There are a lot that raise the difficulty a great deal so there's a balance in challenge and reward throughout the whole game. I'm going to be trying the XFO overhaul soon myself which sounds like it will make sneaking much much better and has completely adjustable settings for many different game mechanics. (seriously check it out you might like it) I like being overpowered and having an optimized build but I like a challenge and a reward instead of being hand feed trash mobs that fail to kill me. Anyways mods are a wonderful thing and you get to make your gameplay into whatever you personally want if you can find the right mod for it. (You have New Vegas you have an Alienware I am green with jealous envy and you don't mod that shit?! COME ON!)
By the way in Morrowind were you using the MSGO 2011 mod? It's mostly for aesthetics but it made the game beautiful and I loved it. Plus the game itself was a perfect RPG imo.Cpanda 19:16, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
- No, I used the Octopus Overlords package and Tamriel Rebuilt. The Alienware is a 11" screen netbook; the game crashes oftenSqualor 15:03, July 6, 2011 (UTC)