Forum:Chat ban appeal

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I would like to present a Chat ban appeal from Cartman!'s action towards banning me upon the chat for just insulting him. I know I'm not heard alot within the forums or to most people, and I know Cartman! is a good guy at times, but this really pushed me too far. I too have evidence and witnesses about his action towards me was unjustified for what he has done. I admit that I clearly broke a rule by insulting another member of the wikia, and I take full responsibility for my short-tempered actions, but I want to make the point that even though I broke the rule, what gives an admin or a higher ranking user any right to avoid the very rules he/she breaks?

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I merely opened up a subject about a videogame about Aliens vs. Predator (AVP) wondering if I should get it or not, and opened it publicly for everyone to put their opinion in it. After awhile I stated towards myself since no one wanted to input their opinion that I should probably not buy it and insured myself that it would be a waste of money

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This was my feedback, which was basically stating I would complain 24/7 even if no one was around.I only wanted feedback about the game itself to insure if it was a decent game or not, but instead I get back an insult.

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I come back to see Cart's comment and replied with my own as well, showing hostility towards his snappy comment as it states I do nothing but complain, having no use, and his response is that of a Literal 'egging' term.

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Cartman copies and pastes my reply as if to repeat myself towards him stating that he isn't kidding when I myself, wasn't as well. To jokingly tease one another is one thing, but to call out someone else in an insult altogether and being a dick.

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I openly explain right here about why the hostility towards his comment and tell him to 'don't push me' as a way of stating to stop egging me or to continue to 'poke me' with snide comments.

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this was after several minutes of conversating with another person, and Cartman continues to push towards what I will do if he 'pushes' me too far.(I apologize for the lapping pictures, if you wish I can post a better one of this, along with the next one.)

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After that Cartman's comment, I merely tell him in my opinion in honesty what he is doing, being an 'ass' towards me or aka 'a Dick' and merely stating that all I wanted was an opinion or 'two cents' of another person's thoughts upon the game or problem I had.

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he responds with a question and doesn't openly disagree with what I said about him, as he has already broken the rule #7. Instead he states my response isn't satisfactory with his question and wants me to answer what I would do if he 'pushes' me, basically egging me even further, even though I stopped on the subject and moved onward to help someone, he continues.

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I merely responded to him that I was opening it towards everyone in the chat about the subject, not about ME. I then responded with the same statement he used before, stating that the insult was unnecessary. He then copies and pastes the history of my opinion upon the game and my own thoughts after no one responds to insure my choice, and tells me that is complaining as he sees.

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I continued to state further that all I wanted was other people's opinions upon the game situation, when he states after that he insults me by saying I complain, trying to state it's not a big deal when it is towards my viewpoint that stating I complain 24/7 about 'everything'.

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I tell him yet again here to 'back off' and stop, where even other users take notice of the argument whereas his response is merely to state the obvious where others have taken notice.

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This was after Billy stated that I get insulted by him all the time and not take notice and stated merely because of his actions in the past, he is the 'town drunk' of the wikia in my viewpoint, which then Billy retorts to me as the Village Idiot or as Cart would join in the "Village Complainer" continuing to egg on about how I would 'complain' about everything everytime.

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This was during the time when Scarface, Billy were talking about Bows and Arrows, when I openly denied of them being in the game, when Cartman makes a snide comment about how I will complain about the weapon subject "Oh god. Here we go."

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As me and Scarface begin our conversation about the Bow and Arrow, Cartman begins the "Mr. Literal" act, stating that my argument is irrelevant when you can 'throw a stick' at them when we were clearly talking about bows and arrows and shooting 'sticks' aka "arrows", so possibly trolling in a way since he already knows that me and him are speaking about Bows and Arrows, not sticks.

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he continues to onward again, pushing on the same 'argument is irrelevant' idea with his act, getting a rise out of me yet again being a Literal Dick seeing as he already knows the subject, but instead of putting viable feedback like Scar, he mainly puts a troll-like statement.

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His act succeeds in yet again upsetting me to the breaking point, as I know his act seeing as he is not that ignorant in the subject.

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I finally reach the boiling point as I confronted him about his statements, while he lamely puts it that stick is a spear and arrow comparison, as if to think I meant I wanted to throw and arrow at a Deathclaw or he was talking either way about both items or so, infuriating me, again being a "Literal Dick"

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I finally break the boiling point and blow a fuse, insulting him and putting out the reason that he doesn't do this Literal act to anyone I noticed so far, but does it start towards me, and thus giving me my ban for my anger.

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This is the part where Cartman comes back and finally bans me for my angry outburst I had, and that is the end of my story.

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This is the aftermath of the banning, stating openly that I told him to 'Go Fuck Himself" towards Klyde, which is obviously a lie and false. I have not stated to fuck himself nor in any other way. The closest word to this was when I stated "Fuck you Cart" at the very beginning but that is in no other way to mean "Go Fuck yourself" but an actual literary meaning of my hostility towards his open insult.

I am not trying to say I was right to insult him, in fact I was wrong and should know better. However, the point I'm trying to make here is that before my anger outburst was that he was clearly egging or instigating me to this boiling point or in other words to 'poke the bear' till something happens, which is obviously what he wanted: me to be infuriated by his Literal meanings and being a Dick towards my efforts to tell him to back off my continuing to 'poke' me into exploding. I've been here for around 5 months and I know not many of you know me, but the people that do know that I have a very short temper towards these things, and one of them is letting Cartman get away with pushing me to my anger moment. I just want people to see that just because he's popular, or an admin, that he shouldn't get away with breaking a few rules, while if I break one, I'm banned. Again, I apologize for my short temper explosion, and I wish I could take back my insult, but I may be the Nuclear device exploding, Cartman was the one who pushed the buttons.

I also like the thank Limmiegirl for helping me dearly with the files and for the hard work and as witness, and thanks along to SigmaDelta54, and GarouxBloodline for the encouragement. If any other member would like to see the files themselves for their own eyes, I will gladly show the link.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mbbfcvagk12rnng/Chat_log.zip

(I'm so sorry upon the pictures, I have no idea how to put them in a Link format like it does upon a chat)

Comments

Firstly, Id suggest recutting those images to exclude all the out of window stuff, just takes up too much space.
Secondly, some of Carts' statements do seem a bit trolly.... Agent c 02:59, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Insulting people has always been against the chat rules, whether you were instigated or not. Also, as you can see in a few of the pictures, Kingclyde was present when this happened, and if I remember correctly, he was persuaded your ban was fair. BILLYOCEAN ^{Wanna talk?} 03:00, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

• I have to agree here. Clyde said the ban was fair. Also, Billy's sister, Matilda is totally sensitive. EB^Talk 03:07, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

• It states in Rule 7 that your not allowed to be a 'Dick" and in another rule to troll another, no matter what your rank is. Cartman obviously did both towards me and was hoping to get a rise out of me.--Zerginfestor 03:10, March 12, 2012 (UTC)Zerginfestor

To be fair, Cartman seems to be happy to insult too... See the top image @ Hawk and the latter one where he calls Zerg the Village complainer. Agent c 03:11, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'll roll with ya, but just don't take it seriously. Insults shouldn't be in chats, and it all started for something so peaceful like. (just as a side note, I see you have a Gaia account :O )--For NCR 03:06, March 12, 2012 (UTC)