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“Another day. Another battle. Another trooper dead. When is this shit gonna end?”— NCR trooper
Camp Forlorn Hope is the New California Republic's primary forward camp in the eastern Mojave Wasteland.
Layout
Camp Forlorn Hope has tents, shacks, and abandoned truck hulls scattered throughout, and is divided by a freshwater creek running through the middle. The camp is destitute and generally lacks items for looting, although forlorn hope letters written by soldiers can be found all over the camp. Entering from the North, the first place of note is the medical center. Dr. Richards is usually located here. On the path to the right is a shack, and across is the Camp Forlorn Hope jail, with a lone NCR trooper and a jail cell. Further south is the barracks where Private Stone usually hangs out. Just south of the barracks across the creek is the mess hall. Down the path to the right of the mess hall is a campfire at the end of a long row of tents. To the north of the campfire is the Quartermaster's tent, with a Camp Forlorn Hope storage shed (with a Very Hard Lock) across from it. North of that across the bridge is the command center. Major Polatli is here along with Tech Sergeant Reyes.
Inhabitants
- Major Joseph Polatli
- Private Stone
- Doctor Alex Richards
- Quartermaster Carl Mayes
- Private James Sexton
- Tech Sergeant Reyes
- Lieutenant Monroe (once Boulder City Showdown is completed in favor of the NCR)
- NCR troopers
- NCR Veteran rangers
- NCR heavy troopers
- 1st Recon (after completing Three-Card Bounty)
- Lieutenant Hayes (after completing My Kind of Town)
Notable loot
- Big Book of Science on a table in the back-right corner of the Command Center (must be stolen).
- There is a Sunset Sarsaparilla star bottle cap on the table directly in front of you when you enter the mess hall.
Related quests
- Medical Mystery
- No, Not Much
- Restoring Hope
- Return to Sender
- Still in the Dark
- We Are Legion
- Don't Make a Beggar of Me
- An Ear to the Ground
- Old School Ghoul
- Tags of Our Fallen
Notes
- If Raul is the Courier's companion when you visit the camp he may say "Sheesh, these soldiers look how I feel, Boss!"
- Camp Forlorn Hope may periodically be attacked by a squad of legionaries from Nelson, crossing over the no-man's land between the two camps. The squad can be as small as 3 Legionaries to as large as several at once. This is triggered by the player visiting the no-man's land area after triggering the quest Restoring Hope. The soldiers at Forlorn Hope will usually be able to repulse the attack (especially if 1st Recon is also present), but some of the named characters inside the camp may potentially die during the assault.
- Unlike many other NCR camps and communities, Camp Forlorn Hope does not have a reputation marker on the world map (but you still gain NCR fame for completing the quests here). The Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide incorrectly states that it does have a reputation marker.
- A palette de-saturation effect has been applied to the entire camp, with colors being muted and more sepia-toned; most likely an aesthetic effect designed to reflect the overall morale.
- After the Boulder City Showdown quest is completed, Lieutenant Monroe will immediately begin walking towards the camp.
- Between Camp Forlorn Hope and Nelson will be a small battlefield littered with dying NCR troopers. Laid near their bodies will be frag mines - most likely traps Legionaries have placed should the Courier or other NCR troopers wander too close to help them. Regardless of whether the Courier is able to disarm the mine quickly enough before it damages him and kills the trooper, they are either too weak or too wounded to actually be saved. Attempting to talk to them will only have them ask the Courier to perform a mercy killing. Oddly enough, performing a high profile kill upon one will turn both the other dying troopers in the field and the active NCR Troopers within Camp Forlorn Hope hostile. (Though the dying troopers will still remain on the ground, just marked as hostile) It is suggested to perform low profile mercy kills upon them with silenced weapons, should the player not want to damage his/her reputation with the NCR. These mutilated soldiers have been removed in recent patches (Dead Money onwards) due to problems with console memory use.
- If the Courier completes the quest We Are Legion, Legion troops will comment that Forlorn Hope has fallen. Despite this the Legion does not actually take over the camp and NCR troops will continue to spawn.
- If Camp Forlorn Hope has been overrun by the Legion (i.e. completing the quest We Are Legion), Dhatri will say that he has heard the camp has been overrun, and will keep 1st Recon in McCarran.
- Courier can play Caravan with Mayes.
- Many letters written by the soldiers stationed here can be found scattered around the camp.
- If the Courier kills the inhabitants of the camp, other NCR troops will later comment on it.
- The NCR Troopers at the camp will often complain about their equipment as compared to troops stationed at Camp McCarran or HELIOS One. They are equipped with caravan shotguns rather than the service rifles or hunting rifles that other NCR soldiers have.
- Depending on your actions during the quests We Are Legion or Restoring Hope, during the battle of Hoover Dam the NCR emergency radio will report on the status of Camp Forlorn Hope. Either the town is destroyed by the Legion, hold their ground against the invasion, or provide support for Hoover Dam.
- When the player is a higher level, NCR heavy troopers will spawn here and NCR Rangers clad in ranger combat armor will replace NCR troopers on the sniper posts.
- After the Battle of Nelson, Camp Forlorn Hope became the only remaining NCR forward base of operations.
- Sometimes, if you don't kill the bloatflies fast enough, essential characters may run far away from the camp and be killed.
- The NCR troopers at Forlorn Hope will usually spawn with two NCR dogtags in their inventory. This can be just a bug, or intentional with the reasoning that they took a dogtag off of a fallen soldier.
- Many quest NPCs serving with the NCR will relocate to the camp once the Courier has completed their specific quest (such as Lieutenant Hayes).
Appearances
Camp Forlorn Hope only appears in Fallout: New Vegas.
Behind the scenes
- A forlorn hope is a body of troops chosen to take the leading part in a military operation, such as an assault on a defended position or as defending a hazardous position, where the risk of casualties is high. The term comes from the Dutch verloren hoop, literally "lost hope", and adapted as "lost troop".
- There is an actual location in the Mojave Desert called Forlorn Hope Spring, located south of Boulder City and north of Nelson.
Bugs
The first time traveling to Camp Forlorn Hope, if approaching from the south, sometimes a Legion patrol will spawn inside the base, resulting in a battle between the NCR and Legion - if the Legion patrol kills any quest non-player characters during the battle, this result in failed missions. Reloading and approaching from a different direction (north or west) seems to prevent the Legion troops from spawning inside the base.- After accepting any mission at the Camp Forlorn Hope whenever you're outside everything appears in a violet haze very similar to that of Camp Searchlight's green haze.
- Members of the 1st Recon, after arriving at Camp Forlorn Hope, may continue to speak as if they were still at Camp McCarran fighting Fiends.
- during the quest "restoring hope", there is a part when Major Polatli asks you to help Dr. Richards. Dr. Richards ask you to examine the patients (20 medicine required) but when attempting to diagnose the patients, nothing happens. you can still continue the quest without helping him.
- Soldiers killed here may respawn with more than one dog tag, they may even initially spawn with more than one.
- After examining Dr Richards patient closest to the door of the medical center, a Powder Ganger and two Great Khan soldiers may enter the tent, attacking Dr Richards and the player depending on reputation. They stay in the tent and no more can be seen else where in the camp.
- the rangers that spawn in the east facing sniper nest and the south facing sniper nest will sometimes not have weapons.
- Sometimes when you fast travel everyone at the camp will become hostile.
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