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Bye Bye Love
Bye Bye Love
locationGomorrah
given byJoana
Carlitos
factionThe Strip
reward1000 caps
200 XP
base id00110a65
Related quests
previous:
Playing on the Old Joana
leads to:
How Little We Know
 
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There's too much shit and despair at Gomorrah already. I don't want anybody making it worse for Jo... for the girls, you know?

Carlitos

Bye Bye Love is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

Quick walkthroughEdit

Side Quest: Bye Bye Love
Talk to Joana with a medicine check or speech check, alternatively talk to Carlitos with a speech check.
Talk to Joana and Carlitos, respectively from the previous step, to finalize their escape plans.
(Optional) Find the two guns-for-hire that owe Carlitos a favor to help in the escape.
Meet up with Joana between 12AM and dawn in the casino.
Travel to Freeside with Carlitos and Joana.
Survive the ambush with Carlitos and Joana alive.
Dissuade the assailants with a strength check, speech check or barter check.
Talk to Carlitos.
Talk to Joana.
Reward: 1000 caps
200 XP
Leads to: How Little We Know

Detailed walkthroughEdit

NOTE: There is no way to get this quest without passing at least a 75 Speech check or a 50 Medicine check.

The quest can be triggered by speaking to Joana or Carlitos, who reside in the Gomorrah casino and hotel (in the courtyard) and the Vault 21 hotel (in the mess hall), respectively. To activate the quest with Joana, the player must pass a Medicine (50) or Speech (75) to initiate dialog that will eventually have Joana talk about Cachino and Carlitos. She will offer the player 200 caps or sexual services for taking the quest, (the second option is only available if your character is male, or a female with the Cherchez La Femme perk). If the player can't meet either check, they can talk to Carlitos, who only needs a Speech (50) to find out about why he left the Omertas and Joana. Carlitos will give the player 200 caps upon accepting the offer to help him and another 200 upon completion.

The first part of the quest involves ferrying messages between Carlitos and Joana. After some running back and forth, the player can agree to help Joana and two of her fellow prostitutes escape to Freeside to join Carlitos; the agreement being to wait until between 12AM and dawn, Gomorrah's busiest hours, before attempting the escape. Carlitos advises the player to get some backup before attempting the escape, as Carlitos knows two guns-for-hire that owe him a favor. This gives the player the option to recruit Big Beard and Little Beard, who are located in the Atomic Wrangler casino. Once the player is ready, they need only speak to Joana, who will then change outfits and walk to the casino floor where the other two prostitutes are waiting. Talking to Joana once she arrives causes all three to run to the meeting point in Freeside, which is down the first side street outside the Strip gate.

Once the player character meets up with the hired guns and Carlitos, four Omerta thugs will ambush the group. The player can either go into combat with them, or talk them into leaving with one of three checks; Strength (8, 9), Speech (75, 85) or Barter (85 with 500 or 75 with 1000 caps). Carlitos and Joana must survive the confrontation or else the quest will fail. If successful, Carlitos will thank the player and ask if there is a way to repay the kindness. From here you have a choice between receiving 200 caps or accepting a simple thanks. Alternatively, if you talked to Carlitos first and you have a high enough Barter skill (65), you can get another 400 caps on top of the 200 at the start.

From here Joana will thank the Courier and mention a sinister plot she's heard about from Cachino about the Omertas. The How Little We Know quest will initiate if you haven't found this quest already.

Quest stagesEdit

StageStatusDescription
5 Find Carlitos to help Joana escape Gomorrah.
10 Talk to Joana, on Carlitos' behalf, at Gomorrah.
30 Joana has decided to escape Gomorrah. Talk to Carlitos about her decision.
40 Carlitos wants to meet Joana in Freeside, between midnight and dawn. Explain the plan to Joana.
50 (Optional) Carlitos suggests getting backup before attempting the escape. Find the two guns-for-hire that owe him a favor.
60 Joana agreed to Carlitos' plan. Talk to her once you're ready to escort her during the escape.
65 Joana will wait, in disguise, at Gomorrah's lobby. go there and lead the girls to Freeside.
66 Help Joana, and the girls, in their escape to Freeside.
70 The help of two experted shooters is secured - granting extra protection during the escape.
80 I decided to tell Cachino about Joana's intentions to escape. He wants me to turn the hired guns of Carlitos at the meeting.
90 Joana is safely delivered to Carlitos. The Omertas who set up the ambush are gone.
100Quest finishedIcon checkJoana is free and reunited with Carlitos. She spoke about rumors of a sinister Omertas' operation.
110Quest failedIcon crossJoana died. You can no long help Carlitos to get her back.
130Quest failedIcon crossJoana was left on het own as she tried to escape Gomorrah.
150Quest failedIcon crossJoana is dead. You can no longer help her.
170Quest failedIcon crossCarlitos is dead. You can no longer help him.

NotesEdit

  • Completing How Little We Know will instantly fail this quest regardless of its resolution.
  • Despite the sense of urgency once you've reached Freeside with the girls, you don't have to follow them to Carlitos.
  • It is unknown where Carlitos and Joana end up after you've finished the quest and they stayed alive, although they do have dialogue proposing that you can meet them afterward. Also, if you quickly talk to Joana or Carlitos after you deal with the Gomorrah thugs or if you re-enable and move her to you Joana will say "I am happy to see you again. Carlitos and I have been living here since our escape".
  • Killing any Omerta thugs might cause you to be unable to complete this quest, since Joana might turn hostile to you (it is possible to take out all the guards and still able to continue this quest).
  • The wait function can't be used in the Gomorrah's main lobby while waiting on Joana to approach the two disguised hookers.
  • If you use the Wait function while Joana is waiting with the other girls, the mission will fail.
    • Even if they have been escorted to Carlitos, waiting will still make this quest fail.

Behind the scenesEdit

The name of the quest is a reference to The Everly Brother's song Bye Bye Love.

BugsEdit

  • pcIcon pc ps3Icon ps3 xbox360Icon xbox360 Carlitos and Joana won't appear in the game, if you have advanced far enough in the quest How Little We Know even after you started conversation with both, making the quest impossible to complete. [verified]
    • To fix this on PC, use the following console commands: For Carlitos: prid 0011f87a, resurrect, enable. For Joana prid 112471, enable, moveto player while standing in the courtyard.
    • The downside of this method is that once you have to escort her and the disguised hookers out of Gomorrah, they may not move. A solution to this is to start combat with Joana, leave Gomorrah, then go back in and restart dialogue with her. After that, exit Gomorrah, enter Freeside, and Joana and the disguised hookers should appear next to you resuming the quest.
    • So far there isn't a way to fix this on consoles, as there are no console commands, except by reloading another previous save, but the bug might repeat.
  • xbox360Icon xbox360 After running back and forth a few times the dialogue option to get Joana to run away might fail to appear, you'll need to have a high enough speech skill to convince her. [verified]
  • pcIcon pc ps3Icon ps3 When leading Joana and the disguised hookers outside the gate to Freeside, the securitrons posted outside the gate can become hostile, attacking all included people. Killing them gives infamy for the strip but letting them kill Joana fails the quest. [verified]
  • pcIcon pc When Joana and the disguised hookers are waiting in the Gomorrah lobby the game can crash when exiting the strip, avoid this by allowing all four of them to leave first. [verified]
  • ps3Icon ps3 xbox360Icon xbox360 After escorting Joana and the disguised hookers to Freeside; Carlitos might not appear making the quest un-completable when Joana, the disguised hookers, and the Omerta thugs stand around and do nothing. Killing the Omerta thugs won't work since Joana and the disguised hookers still need Carlitos to appear to advance the quest dialogue. Reloading the auto-save from when you entered Freeside can fix this. [verified]
  • pcIcon pc xbox360Icon xbox360 Once the group reaches Freeside, the thugs that are supposed to interrupt the escape, sometimes won't appear. This can be bypassed by using the console command "setstage 00110a65 90" and talking first to Carlitos once (before or after the command), then to Joana. [verified]
  • ps3Icon ps3 If the player fast travels to The Strip North Gate once leaving the Gomorrah Casino as opposed to actually escorting Joana and the disguised hookers, one or both of the hookers can glitch into the gate itself. This does not actually affect the quest as it's completed if Joana alone survives. [verified]
  • ps3Icon ps3 When escorting Joana and the disguised hookers past the Securitrons on the Freeside end of the gate to and from the strip, the game may suddenly crash, leading to a black screen before being booted to the Playstation Home screen as if you had quit the game. [verified]
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