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Based on my own knowledge of the Brotherhood, it is in fact you who has been inserting false information. According to the [[History of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel]], ''"the Capital Wasteland division of the Brotherhood of Steel, headquartered in the Citadel, became its own entity: still affiliated with the Brotherhood of Steel on the West Coast, and bound by its laws and customs, but otherwise completely independent"''. It seems more than a little harsh to threaten me with a ban for putting that it is a chapter of the Brotherhood when, as far as I am aware, that is the case, unless you can point out to me any formal declaration of independence by the CW BoS or any formal declaration of severance by the Lost Hills BoS. To call it "inserting false information" is unfair because clearly, my edits were [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipรฉdia:Supposer_la_bonne_foi not in bad faith], whether I was correct or not.<br />
 
Based on my own knowledge of the Brotherhood, it is in fact you who has been inserting false information. According to the [[History of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel]], ''"the Capital Wasteland division of the Brotherhood of Steel, headquartered in the Citadel, became its own entity: still affiliated with the Brotherhood of Steel on the West Coast, and bound by its laws and customs, but otherwise completely independent"''. It seems more than a little harsh to threaten me with a ban for putting that it is a chapter of the Brotherhood when, as far as I am aware, that is the case, unless you can point out to me any formal declaration of independence by the CW BoS or any formal declaration of severance by the Lost Hills BoS. To call it "inserting false information" is unfair because clearly, my edits were [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipรฉdia:Supposer_la_bonne_foi not in bad faith], whether I was correct or not.<br />
 
Also, I do not believe that it is fair to criticise me for removing information considering the nature of said information. Both were sections comprising solely of a link to a "main article", one of those sections was made redundant by information in the infobox, and neither section belonged on the page at all according to [[The Vault:Fallout faction overhaul project]]. Thanks, --[[User:Lugiatm|Lugiatm]] ([[User talk:Lugiatm|talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;ยท</span> [[Special:Contributions/Lugiatm|contribs]]) 15:32, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
Also, I do not believe that it is fair to criticise me for removing information considering the nature of said information. Both were sections comprising solely of a link to a "main article", one of those sections was made redundant by information in the infobox, and neither section belonged on the page at all according to [[The Vault:Fallout faction overhaul project]]. Thanks, --[[User:Lugiatm|Lugiatm]] ([[User talk:Lugiatm|talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;ยท</span> [[Special:Contributions/Lugiatm|contribs]]) 15:32, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
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:I'll put it bluntly: you appear to have rewritten the project guidelines, without prior discussion, to suit your own ends [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=The_Vault%3AFallout_faction_overhaul_project&action=historysubmit&diff=1120597&oldid=1120313]. You have added guidelines such as "keep gameplay information" and having an "interactions with the player character section" with the apparent intention (and I sincerely hope I am wrong on this) to make yourself retroactively seem correct. Did it not occur to you that perhaps these guidelines were not included on the project page in the first place for a reason? And does it also not seem sensible that, like regular [[The Vault:Article layout guideline|article layout guidelines]], you discuss before making any changes to the guideline? The page I just linked states that ''"Any registered editor is free to edit this page to improve its readability as long as the essence of the article remains unchanged"''. The same applies to project guidelines - make a discussion on the talk page or in the forum before changing the substance of guidelines.
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:The pages affected so far are as follows:
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Capital_Wasteland_Brotherhood_of_Steel&action=historysubmit&diff=1120470&oldid=1111920 Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Omertas&action=historysubmit&diff=1120567&oldid=1120245 Omertas]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=White_Glove_Society&action=historysubmit&diff=1120573&oldid=1120257 White Glove Society]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Crimson_Caravan&action=historysubmit&diff=1120587&oldid=1115193 Crimson Caravan]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Powder_gangers&diff=prev&oldid=1120602 Powder gangers]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Bright_Brotherhood&curid=114700&diff=1120605&oldid=1120153 Bright Brotherhood]
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:* [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=State_of_Utobitha&action=historysubmit&diff=1120614&oldid=1120169 State of Utobitha]
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:Please revert your edits (including those affecting the guidelines of the factions project) and start a discussion before making any more. None have been improvements, and in a couple of cases have actually inserted false information (e.g. Big Sal is ''not'' a leader of the Omertas, the NCRCF is based on the ruins of the Jean Conservation Camp, ''not'' those of the Southern Nevada Correctional Facility, and Marcus founded the Black Mountain mutant settlement, ''not'' Tabitha).
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:Finally, you have changed the History of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel page to reflect the facts as you see them, but you have still not provided a source indicating that the CW BoS is independent from the main contingent [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=History_of_the_Capital_Wasteland_Brotherhood_of_Steel&action=historysubmit&diff=1120551&oldid=1111800]. --[[User:Lugiatm|Lugiatm]] ([[User talk:Lugiatm|talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;ยท</span> [[Special:Contributions/Lugiatm|contribs]]) 16:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

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Images

They're actually taken by myself for another wiki. http://tcrf.net/Fallout_3_%28Van_Buren%29 I'll get the .rar ready for you to mess around with. Darkman 4 17:46, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

http://filesmelt.com/dl/trans.rar Only the guns and throwables are in that pack. I don't plan non making pages for the melee weapons right now, and I thought I'd save you the trouble of fixing images I don't plan on using. Darkman 4 17:59, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
Everything in the .rar are the images I want transparent. Darkman 4 18:25, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
Those models are hidden deep in the tech demo's files. A Russian website managed to extract them and convert them to .max format a year or so ago. As far as I know, there's no way to get them in-game. Darkman 4 18:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
Awesome job man! Darkman 4 19:45, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Appearances

You are right but note that the article is not about the guns themselves but about the company that manufactures them. Listing where the guns appear is pointless as the same information is given on their own respective articles.(Nemerian 17:50, May 25, 2011 (UTC))

Psychological Evaluation

Thanks I don't know enough of the formatting etc for Wikia so did what I could. I noticed it was something missing that FO3 had on it's page for the G.O.A.T. RGDelta

Date

Doesn't Fallout 2 begin in 2241? Trolly Polly Olly 11:59, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Caesar and Caesar's Legion

I disagree that the Master and Caesar are comparable. The Master is a different personality, as you say, because he is a product of FEV and a composite of three separate individuals, whereas Caesar had no actual change in personality - the background section of his article notes that he was narcissistic and petulant even while a Follower of the Apocalypse.
More pertinently, I disagree with the use of "Caesar" as a founder in the Legion infobox. Your argument defeats itself here; if Caesar and Edward Sallow are two distinct personalities, then surely you must agree that the Legion wasn't founded by Caesar, but by Edward Sallow. That is why "Edward Sallow" was listed as a founder but "Caesar" was listed as the leader. The (flawed) comparison you gave above doesn't apply here because the Master didn't found the Unity until after he became known as the Master, which wasn't the case with Caesar.
Finally, a point about consistency. If you're going to change the founder of the Legion from "Edward Sallow" to "Caesar", at least change the other founder from "Joshua Graham" to "Malpais Legate", as that was Graham's name while he was in the Legion. Thanks, --Lugiatm (talk ยท contribs) 11:23, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Problem

We're having a problem on the Three Dog page with unregistered retards running amok. Is there any way we get get that page locked from unregistered editing? Along with my user/talk page? Great Mara 23:15, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please. I would like my page protected. At least one iof the culprits earlier was bouncing around using proxies. Great Mara 23:26, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

help

anon keeps blanking three dog page. I have undone like a million times. heres his IP 62.212.66.131 kevobk 23:15, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

anon vandalism

thanks, that guy was getting on my nerves. kevobk 23:18, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Same guy

Is now going apeshit on Kevobk's User Page. :/ http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/88.198.55.109 Great Mara 23:29, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

He keeps coming

He keeps coming back. Rolling back his edits at Kevbobk's page is getting really tiresome. gears of duty

DLC Dates

I've looked everywhere on the web, and besides the site you posted there seems to be no other confirmed dates for the DLC releases. I suggest you revert your edits, not because I believe they're incorrect, but just because it doesn't seem very credible, considering it's the only site with an exact day. --Geerardr 02:19, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, sorry I doubted! .. And on that note, nice find. --Geerardr 10:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
Okay so last night I tweeted GStaff[1], who has done the announcing on the Bethesda forums for the Old World Blues perk info. He said that they haven't made an announcement for the official dates yet, so i'm going to remove them. His reply is to the same name as my profile on here. --Geerardr 15:53, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Medtex

How on Earth could it be a K? It's clearly an X. Fixer Trolly Polly Olly 12:11, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

master page

Always happy to be of service! Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 12:24, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Vault boy images

Gotta say, love 'em! They are brilliant. I also support your idea of weapon sound files, but would also like to see some dialogue sound files too. But still, brilliant! Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 22:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just got an idea. I'm writing up a PnP fallout roleplaying game, and Iwould like to use your vault boy images in the weapon part of the rules, you know, for firing semi, burst and somesuch. Now I'm asking for your permission, and I'll post it when I'm done! Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 12:28, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Well, only one thing springs to mind, and it requires three images. When you construct your character, you choose an origin: Vault Dweller (well educated, less combat), Wastelander (Not so educated more combat/survival) or Ghoul (good at everything, social stigmata). If you could whip up a nice pic for 'em (maybe not Vault dweller, kinda already exist) I would be forever grateful! Hugs Scar: "Say 'ello to my little friend!" 12:44, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sledgehammar

The only reason being that it is a very small article and only gives info on sledgehammers from certain games.(Nemerian 17:53, May 31, 2011 (UTC))

Capital Wasteland BOS page and remove contents

Based on my own knowledge of the Brotherhood, it is in fact you who has been inserting false information. According to the History of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel, "the Capital Wasteland division of the Brotherhood of Steel, headquartered in the Citadel, became its own entity: still affiliated with the Brotherhood of Steel on the West Coast, and bound by its laws and customs, but otherwise completely independent". It seems more than a little harsh to threaten me with a ban for putting that it is a chapter of the Brotherhood when, as far as I am aware, that is the case, unless you can point out to me any formal declaration of independence by the CW BoS or any formal declaration of severance by the Lost Hills BoS. To call it "inserting false information" is unfair because clearly, my edits were not in bad faith, whether I was correct or not.
Also, I do not believe that it is fair to criticise me for removing information considering the nature of said information. Both were sections comprising solely of a link to a "main article", one of those sections was made redundant by information in the infobox, and neither section belonged on the page at all according to The Vault:Fallout faction overhaul project. Thanks, --Lugiatm (talk ยท contribs) 15:32, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll put it bluntly: you appear to have rewritten the project guidelines, without prior discussion, to suit your own ends [2]. You have added guidelines such as "keep gameplay information" and having an "interactions with the player character section" with the apparent intention (and I sincerely hope I am wrong on this) to make yourself retroactively seem correct. Did it not occur to you that perhaps these guidelines were not included on the project page in the first place for a reason? And does it also not seem sensible that, like regular article layout guidelines, you discuss before making any changes to the guideline? The page I just linked states that "Any registered editor is free to edit this page to improve its readability as long as the essence of the article remains unchanged". The same applies to project guidelines - make a discussion on the talk page or in the forum before changing the substance of guidelines.
The pages affected so far are as follows:
Please revert your edits (including those affecting the guidelines of the factions project) and start a discussion before making any more. None have been improvements, and in a couple of cases have actually inserted false information (e.g. Big Sal is not a leader of the Omertas, the NCRCF is based on the ruins of the Jean Conservation Camp, not those of the Southern Nevada Correctional Facility, and Marcus founded the Black Mountain mutant settlement, not Tabitha).
Finally, you have changed the History of the Capital Wasteland Brotherhood of Steel page to reflect the facts as you see them, but you have still not provided a source indicating that the CW BoS is independent from the main contingent [3]. --Lugiatm (talk ยท contribs) 16:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)